Apple Logic Queries

Posted by: dave brubeck on 23 February 2009

Anybody know if this will run satisfactorily on a Macbook? i.e not the Macbook 'pro' version?

Will I require an upgraded soundcard?

Considering a purchase....

Thankyou
DB
Posted on: 27 February 2009 by Stephen Bennett
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Originally posted by SC:
Cool Stephen.

Seems crazy Apple now moving away from Firewire 400, especially since they were primary one of the ones to push it into use....I've been here before with Apple though !

Steve.


Indeed. I thought FW was safe after going through three generations of internal cards!

It's a pity the MB doesn't have a card slot for you to add FW, but I guess it's about fitting it all in to the case and motherboard.

USB 3 next...

Stephen
Posted on: 27 February 2009 by 'haroldbudd'
Hi Stephen,

good point about the EXS24, I think it was with the recent versions of logic that EXS24 can access more Ram right ? It does not really matter though as you can only put 4 gigs in the new machines anyway, unless of course you get the 17" MBPro which can take more. There have been many reports that both 15" MBpro models can actually access 6gigs of Ram, but there are equally as many reports saying that it actually screws up the system and makes the machine slower...something to do with the two Ram slots being perfectly matched. I'll wait longer to see what the verdict is on that one.

A simple firewire 400 to 800 cable or adapter works with both units I mentioned. I spoke to the engineers at both companies and there is no performance or sound quality issues. they mentioned the firewire ports on previous models being on the same bus anyway, or something like that, so no worries for MBpro users and I assume
all the other firewire interfaces should be fine. Now the lack of firewire on the MacBook is interesting indeed !

Yes, USB 3 next, ... and cheaper Solid State drives as well ! Smile

regards
joaquim
Posted on: 27 February 2009 by andy c
My 828iii is firewire 400...we are getting a mac book of some description in the next 6-9 months - fortunate the fw800 does 'downscale' etc to 400 - have checked with both companies re compatiblity with the 828iii.
Posted on: 28 February 2009 by andy c
Harold,

i think it's mono aftertouch.
Posted on: 28 February 2009 by The Timster
Hello Harold and co,

The Ti keyboard has channel or mono aftertouch. I am not sure if there is a poly aftertouch keyboard on the market at present . Historically, I recall the Roland A80 sending it and possibly the Prophet t8 but will have to check on this. Needless to say the Yamaha CS80 had it as does the Arturia version. The Virus Ti, however, will give you more Vangelisesque thrills than the CS80V though!!!!
Posted on: 01 March 2009 by dave brubeck
Harold,

Thanks for taking the time to write down all the very helpful info. And would you believe I got home tonight and there was a beautiful Apogee Duet just lying there next to my Mac! Anyway enough spending for now time to actually try and do something with it all.

To answer your query re. connection to the amp, currently I run the connection from headphone out (on my PC) to a DIN connector to my 82 - a custom cable. I see the Duet has a headphone jack... or is there a better way of connecting the Duet to the Naim?
Posted on: 01 March 2009 by andy c
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The Virus Ti, however, will give you more Vangelisesque thrills than the CS80V though!!!!



Big Grin

Oh - we do know that, eh, timster!
Posted on: 01 March 2009 by Stephen Bennett
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Originally posted by dave brubeck:


To answer your query re. connection to the amp, currently I run the connection from headphone out (on my PC) to a DIN connector to my 82 - a custom cable. I see the Duet has a headphone jack... or is there a better way of connecting the Duet to the Naim?


Headphone outs are a no-no when it comes to connecting to the line level inputs of an amp (i.e your Naim). There's a level mismatch and all the crud and noise from the PC phones output can't be helping. You're effectively running an amp into an amp.

You need to take the monitor outputs on the flying leads from the duet into the Naim so you'll need a XRL>whatever is in the back of your Naim (phonos?)

Regards

Stephen
Posted on: 01 March 2009 by 'haroldbudd'
the xlr on the flying leads are for mic input. the monitor leads are regular 1/4", so Dave will need a 1/4" male>Din. I took a Chord Cobra rca>din cable and had male 1/4 put on it to connect the duet (and many others) into my Nait3. Your Naim dealer should be able to either make one for you or tell you where you can have one made. Let us know how it sounds into your 82, after all, in addition to getting an ad/da interface for you Logic/Mac, you also now have a ummm.... DAC!

Like Stephen said, use the headphone out for just that, headphones.

Andy and Timster, there a only a few controller keyboards that offer true poly after-touch. Made by small niche companies. Can't recall names right now but when I checked they were quite pricey.

Here is a neat clip and if you watch very carefully you will see true poly-after touch for a couple of seconds. enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoEkyBX7qsg

joaquim
Posted on: 01 March 2009 by Stephen Bennett
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Originally posted by haroldbudd:
the xlr on the flying leads are for mic input. the monitor leads are regular 1/4",


Duh - I used about 40 of these last year - you'd think I'd remember (having said that, they were used with phones only. Big Grin)

Stephen
Posted on: 01 March 2009 by 'haroldbudd'
Also Dave, if you just search " apogee duet " on Youtube you will find quite a few tutorials both official from Apogee and from users. The official ones can help you with set-up etc etc.

Likewise there are quite a few Logic Studio tutorials on there also. Sometimes it's just better to visually see these things especially when you are just starting out....