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Classical Quiz (cont.)

Posted by: Matthew T on 26 November 2001

Given the length of the Classical Quiz thread I thought, to generate more enthuasism, I would start a second thread.

The first thread is here

OK my question...

Who were the writers of the play Elgar used as his setting for Grania and Diarmid?

Posted on: 18 December 2001 by JamH
Bruno Walter ??
Posted on: 19 December 2001 by Former member
Wife giving birth?
Posted on: 19 December 2001 by herm
That is completely K-rect! Konstanze was in labor at the time, and some say the high triplets in the last movement are her cries.

So it's your turn now!

Posted on: 19 December 2001 by Former member
Gee - I listened to it and this is what I guessed.
I must be getting perceptive in my old age.


Erm. Hell, this is the problem with geeting one right. Erm. OK. What were the mediavel "Goliards", and what is their contribution to C20th music?

Posted on: 20 December 2001 by Former member
quote:
Originally posted by 1st Pentacostal Church of Vuksanovic:
... What were the mediavel "Goliards", and what is their contribution to C20th music?

Carmina Burana, Orff?

Posted on: 20 December 2001 by Former member
Spot on Steve - the collective name for the defrocked priests, dodgy monks, bad-mannered minstrels etc that penned them there lyrics that Orff then used... your turn...

Jonathan

Posted on: 21 December 2001 by Former member
quote:
Originally posted by 1st Pentacostal Church of Vuksanovic:
Spot on Steve - the collective name for the defrocked priests, dodgy monks, bad-mannered minstrels etc that penned them there lyrics that Orff then used... your turn...

Jonathan


Ooh I forgot to say that but but thanks for passing the baton on ...

How might Lucier receive and record a message from Lamb?

Posted on: 23 December 2001 by JamH
My guess is that Lucier is "Alan Lucier" who
installed the work "Music on a long thin wire"
consisting of 80 ft of piano wire stretched
across a room in New York and tuned as a
monocord. The wire was driven by a sine-wave
oscillator and contact microphones picked up
the sounds caused by temperature fluctuations,
people moving around the room etc.

Also I guess Lamb is "Alan Lamb" who has
recorded the sounds of electrical high-tension
wires flapping about in the wind.

So I suppose the answer is that they would
exchange messages by wire and maybe record them
on an antique wire [non tape] recorder ??

James H.

Posted on: 23 December 2001 by herm
eek Wow eek
Posted on: 24 December 2001 by Former member
Alvin Lucier actually, but a great answer, obviously from real knowledge rather than an internet search :-)

Lucier found after a couple of installations that the sine wave oscillator wasn't necessary. And Lamb recorded from telegraph wires.

Try 'Austral Voices' New Albion NA028CD for the Lamb and Lovely Music LCD 1011 for four versions of the Lucier piece.

SteveC

quote:
Originally posted by James Hamilton:
My guess is that Lucier is "Alan Lucier" who
installed the work "Music on a long thin wire"
consisting of 80 ft of piano wire stretched
across a room in New York and tuned as a
monocord. The wire was driven by a sine-wave
oscillator and contact microphones picked up
the sounds caused by temperature fluctuations,
people moving around the room etc.

Also I guess Lamb is "Alan Lamb" who has
recorded the sounds of electrical high-tension
wires flapping about in the wind.

So I suppose the answer is that they would
exchange messages by wire and maybe record them
on an antique wire [non tape] recorder ??

James H.


Posted on: 26 December 2001 by JamH
Thanks Steve !!

This composer is more usually associated with the
piano but in his youth played the Viola.

Who is/was he ??

James H.

Posted on: 27 December 2001 by herm
viola man

Are we talking about Anton Dvorak?

I have a recollection of his being an orchestral violist first. (Problem is you don't generally think of him as a piano player / composer.)

Herm

Posted on: 27 December 2001 by Todd A
I believe old Ludwig van Beethoven played viola in his youth. Is this the composer you refer to?

If not, I also offer Hindemith and Bridge as two alternatives, though they are not especially renowned for their piano music.

Posted on: 29 December 2001 by JamH
Yes Todd,

It's Beethoven. Your turn !!

James H.

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Todd A
Who's pictured?
Posted on: 02 January 2002 by herm
La Guba?

Are we looking at Sofia Gubaidulina here? It kind of depends on one's definition of the frase Classical Personage wink , G's music often being wild, weird and raw (there's one with a big hammer in it, I recall) - but the picture sure looks like her. She was a student and GF of Shostakovich' wasn't she?

Herm

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Todd A
Your turn Herm.
Posted on: 03 January 2002 by herm
a helpful hint

It's a simple question. What was Brahms wearing, way back, when he was working on the original material for the C minor Piano Quartet? frown

I'll help a little. Black lace bra and panties is wrong. High heels too.

So let us know.

Herm

Posted on: 04 January 2002 by herm
another helpful hint smile

Brahms had this habit of making self-depreciatory remarks every time he sent off a big piece of work to the publisher (calling the 4th Symphony "a set of waltzes & polkas").

In the case of the Third Piano Quartet he was alluding to a major novel of the 18th Century (major major), to indicate what kind of mood he was in when he first conceived of the C minor.

Gentlemen, need I say more?

Herm

Posted on: 06 January 2002 by herm
[B]need I say more?[B]

frown Well I guess I do. frown

So what Brahms was referring to was, I'd say, the most famous German novel ever, a book which inspired a lotta folks to imitate the eponymous protagonist - with fatal results.

(This was the 18th C, when they didn't have any Naim gear to play with. So what could they do on a bad day?)

Herm

Posted on: 06 January 2002 by Cheese
Did he look about this way ?

Cheese
Posted on: 06 January 2002 by herm
sooo close!

You mean like the guy with long black thing down there? wink

'Fraid not.

But you're awfully close, Cheese, and I'm sure your native lingo is a great help, since the author is spot on!

Remember, Brahms, as he was starting out, had a thing for Clara Schumann, who was
1) an older woman eek eek eek
2) but married too! mad mad mad

So, as far as German fiction was concerned, there was only one way out red face

and in that case your example was .....

Posted on: 06 January 2002 by Cheese
confused hmmmmmmmmmm mad

Cheese

Posted on: 06 January 2002 by herm
we're this close

so we're talking about Goethe, and a world-famous novel of his, that drove a lot of young fellows to distraction - always in the correct garb, though.

Even Brahms came close, when he met the lovely and talented Mrs Robert Schumann.

Posted on: 06 January 2002 by Rainer S
Since poor herm had to post so many hints already, and since the c-minor piano quartet is one of my favorite pieces, I thought I might jump in... Hope I don't offend anybody!

Brahms said of himself that while writing his first piano quartet he was wearing a blue cutaway and a yellow waistcoat ("blauen Frack und gelbe Weste" in German), like the main character in Goethe's novel who commits suicide in the end. Meaning of course that Brahms himself was very close to suicide at that time. Goethe's book was a huge success and inspired a lot of young men to follow Werther's example!

Fortunately Brahms decided against becoming a "fashion victim"...

So now it's on me to ask the next question, right?

There is a good movie, called "Monsieur Hire", by the French director Patrice Leconte, after a novel by George Simenon. The main character has a habit of watching his beautiful neighbour through the window, while listening to Brahms... :-) As it happens, the music used in the film is an excerpt from one of Brahms' piano quartets: Which one, and which movement?

If nobody knows the movie except me, I'll think of something else... :-) It's worth watching, though. And Brahms wrote only three piano quartets...

Btw, can anybody suggest a good recording of these pieces?