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Classical Quiz (cont.)

Posted by: Matthew T on 26 November 2001

Given the length of the Classical Quiz thread I thought, to generate more enthuasism, I would start a second thread.

The first thread is here

OK my question...

Who were the writers of the play Elgar used as his setting for Grania and Diarmid?

Posted on: 24 January 2002 by herm
cool it's so easy cool

Come on, we're talking about one of the top pre-eminent pianists of the 1960 &c era. None better. At this very moment - not a good time in the industry - Deutsche Grammophone is shipping big boxes of a special edition of this artist (recently profiled in the New Yorker - and I'm putting this in Italics)

He's that big.

So, how hard can it be?

Herm

Posted on: 24 January 2002 by Todd A
Pollini? (I'm guessing because of the Fiat mention and the big DG box)
Posted on: 24 January 2002 by herm
Wild Guess - Totally Right

Yes, of course it's Maurizio Pollini. Some think he's a soulless performer; to others he's a romantic demon.

In the late sixties he got into a crisis, and played lunch hour concerts for auto workers at the Fiat plant - and he wasn't playing Chopin polonaises. No sir, these guys were getting the real thing, like Schoenberg pieces and Webern miniatures. I love this. And it makes me guess he truly has the romantic demon.

I love his Mozart collaborations with Boehm too. (You, apparantly have a Beethoven cto, and, yes, each and every one of these 1970 -73 Boehm VPO things is to die for.)

So, at last, it's your turn, Todd. big grin

Herm

Posted on: 24 January 2002 by Todd A
I, too, love Pollini's playing and have a variety of discs of his playing. Both Brahm's concertos with Abbado are amazing, as, of course, is his DG Originals release of Stravinsky, Boulez, Prokofiev and Webern. And his late Beethoven Sonatas stand with the best, IMO, as does his truly phenomenal Liszt Sonata.


Anyway, which conductor has recorded Smetana's Ma Vlast more times than any other? His interpretations are the finest available, IMO, and his last recording one of the finest of any work by any composer directed by any conductor.

Posted on: 24 January 2002 by herm
late beethoven

May I come back one sec, Todd? I agree: that remastered two-disc with Beethoven sonatas is truly magical. I don't know what he does, or what the engineer does, but it's like he doesn't play a keyboard. He's playing on sheer sunlight. Especially in the 111 and, more interestingly, the 109 variation mvt.

And of course the Prokofiev 7th sonata is a milestone, too.

I love this man.

Back to Smetana

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Todd Arola's Quiz Question was:

which conductor has recorded Smetana's Ma Vlast more times than any other? His interpretations are the finest available, IMO, and his last recording one of the finest of any work by any composer directed by any conductor.

[This message was edited by herm on FRIDAY 25 January 2002 at 08:35.]

Posted on: 25 January 2002 by Cheese
Heads or Tales ? Maybe the under-appreciated Antal Dorati ... Or the other one.

Cheese

Posted on: 25 January 2002 by Todd A
Nope, not Dorati.
Posted on: 25 January 2002 by Cheese
mad Ancerl ?
Cheese
Posted on: 25 January 2002 by Phil Barry
Kubelik
Posted on: 27 January 2002 by herm
Well, Todd, how about Phil's guess?

Or are you still glued to the new CDX?

roll eyes

Herm

Posted on: 28 January 2002 by Todd A
I was indeed too involved with listening to tunes. Rafael Kubelik is indeed the correct answer.

He recorded it five times. I own four of them. The late 50s Decca set (now on Belart) is not a great version with less than inspired playing (from the Vienna Philharmonic!) and terrible Decca spotlighting. The early 50s mono Mercury set with the Chicago Symphony is one of the most intense versions of the cycle I have heard and is definitely worth owning. The 1970 Boston SO set on DG is sort of the opposite, kinda laid back but with sumptuous playing. I do not yet own the version with the BRSO (on Orfeo), of all orchestras, but have heard it and it, too, is superb. The finest version Kubelik, or anyone, ever recorded was his final live set from 1990 with the Czech Philharmonic on Supraphon. It is nearly as intense as the Chicago set, but in a more endearing way. The playing is top notch, the orchestra apparently encouraged to greatness, and there is a sense of occasion and joyousness. A truly inspired performance.

Your turn Phil.

Posted on: 29 January 2002 by Phil Barry
AWKK!!! I just saw this, and now I have to think up a question. Will do so by later today.

Anyway, I heard Kubelick do Ma Vlast with the Chicago about 18 years ago. Alas, the thing I most remember about the concert was that there was a couple in the audience dressed in identical aquamarine-colored suits. Looked sort of like drawings of leprechauns, except the suits were bluer than would be expected (at least as leprechauns are depicted in the US). The music wasn't all that great.

Phil

Posted on: 30 January 2002 by Phil Barry
I fear this is a pretty lame question, but...

two WWII compositions - one took the world by storm; the second spoofed the first. Name 'em.

Phil
back on the air after working for hours to get his modem registered with ATTBI - but at least ATT is now answering their phones quickly and with competence. But who would design a system that authenticates on the basis of MAC addresses????

Posted on: 31 January 2002 by JamH
dum dum de dum dum
dum dum de dum dum
dum dum de dum dum
de dum dum dum de dum dum
de dum dum dum de dum dum
de dum dum de dum dum

I think it's Schostokovich Symphony 7
[The Leningrad] which represents the
Nazis marching on Leningrad.

Bartok did not think much of it and
quoted the main theme [but distorted] in
his Concerto for Orchestra.

Personally I like both works but No. 7 is
NOT the best thing Schostokovich ever wrote
[his best symphony IMHO is No. 10].

James H

Posted on: 01 February 2002 by Phil Barry
Whew! Off the hook!

You got it, James.

The first time I heard the 7th was Bernstien's version with the Chicago, and I started to play it a lot. I hadn't heard Cto for Orchestra in a long time, so I didn't get the reference. Then someone mentioned that Bartok had something to say - the 7th hasn't sounded the sme to me since.

Absolutely, S has composed better works. The Cto for Orchestra is great. (IMHO, of course)

Regards.

Phil

Posted on: 01 February 2002 by herm
Shostakovich 7th

The Bernstein / Chicago SO captures the Mahlerian shades of this symphony rather well. You really need those "starry starry night" moments.

However, in a little while Philips is going to release the live recording by Valery Gergiev and the combined Kirov and Rotterdam Orchestras, and that could very well be a recording that definitively redeems this symphony. I heard the live concert.

Herm

(curious about the new quiz question)

Posted on: 02 February 2002 by JamH
I am trying to think of a good question.
Should have one by Monday.

James H

Posted on: 03 February 2002 by JamH
Sorry for delay. I have been
backing up my system to CD's and
it takes forever [Explained in
earlier post how I lost second
disk drive very suddennly].

I have a question but I don't know
the answer :

I have the quote [from memory] : "All
selections of notes are acceptable but
at this point in time some sound
conventional and should be avoided". I
know it's Bartok and I wanted to give this
as my question i.e 'Name that quote ...'

So the question is ...
Can you give me a reference to this or
am I mistaken.

Alternativly [an easy one ...]
There are lots of symphonies with choirs
[e.g. Beethoven / Mahler / Schostokovich etc.].
Name a piano concerto with one and name the
composer [so piano concerto no. 1 does not
count].

James H.

Posted on: 03 February 2002 by Cheese
quote:
There are lots of symphonies with choirs
[e.g. Beethoven / Mahler / Schostokovich etc.].
Name a piano concerto with one and name the
composer
Hmm, Beethoven wrote something called the "Chorfantasie" ?!

Cheese

Posted on: 03 February 2002 by JamH
Hello Cheese,

I don't think Beethoven thought
of it as a concerto.

The work I have in mind was by
[someone] who wrote a piano
concerto and included a chorus
[in the last movemont -- of
course]. And he definitly wanted
it to be a piano concerto.


James H.

Posted on: 04 February 2002 by Phil Barry
Since I may I have a good question, I'll hazard an answer: Busoni?
Posted on: 05 February 2002 by JamH
Yes it's Busoni
[He's mainly known for Bach transcriptions
for piano but he also wrote a piano concerto
with chorus. I think most of his work
involves the piano].
Your turn
James H
Posted on: 05 February 2002 by Phil Barry
Yes, all 71 minutes and 45 seconds of it! (at least on my Ohlsson/Dohnanyi/Cleveland CD)

The father of a famous conductor is reported to have referred to Joseph Szigeti and said to his conductor son (something like), 'If you had practiced, that could be you up there!'

Who was the conductor?

Phil

Posted on: 07 February 2002 by Phil Barry
Was this a lousy question, or has this thread died? Feedback, please - I'd be glad to post the answer and re-open the questions.

Phil

Posted on: 07 February 2002 by herm
Hi Phil,

mostly just real busy.

However, a helpful hint would be, er, helpful. Like when are we talking about?

Herm