Is Mick Parry A Nimby? 2:
Posted by: Berlin Fritz on 14 January 2006
When two police officers arrived to arrest Eliza Greenhall at her Carlisle home shortly before Christmas, they weren't going to stand any nonsense. So even though Mrs Greenhall is 79 and three-quarters and registered disabled with a serious heart condition, after that she protested that she need to cancel a doctor's appointment, they insisted on handcuffing her and escorting her out to their waiting car. Mrs Greenhall's crime? Failing to pay council tax arrears of around �800. The unpaid bill and warrant for her arrest came about after a dispute over the calculation of Mrs Greenhall's disability allowance and pension. In addition, a year ago she lost almost everything in Carlisle's floods.
Generously Carlisle magistrates declined to send her Mrs Greenhall to prison for Christmas, putting an order for recovery of the debt against her possessions (though due to floods she doesn't really have any). However, Mrs Greenhall and her family are outraged by the heavy-handed and humiliating actions of the police. "There really was no need to put me in shackles," she said. "I wasn't putting up a fight. I am 79 and I just wanted to call my GP to cancel my appointment. One of them even tightened the things with what looked like an alum key." It was in fact the second time that officers from the Cumbrian force had arrived to enforce the arrest warrant for non-payment. The first officer, after talking to Mrs Greenhall and asking what it was all about, said he would take more advice, adding that should he return "it would be with kindness".
Asked about its distinctly unkind treatment of a frail and and elderly woman, a spokesman for Cumbria poilce said that because of her age and disability, special arrangements had been made to arrest and take her straight to court, rather than as is usual into police custody. The officers had allowed her to take her heart medication and decided that the use of handcuffs was the "safest way to escort her to the car". That's a new one!
Lord Gnomes Thingy, handheld issue 1149, January 2006.
N.B. A spokesman for the Deputy Prime Minister, Brig. Maynard-Partly. RPG-and clip (Rtd), was quoted as saying "We just can't allow these type of people to strip the Nation's hard earned coffers bare through their greed and selfishness! Our highly trained and educated police officers risk their lives daily dealing with such 'Potential terrorists', and in my view should have pepper sprayed her, then tasered her (after ensuring she wasn't carrying semtex in her undergarments) (apparently a Bible was discovered concealed in her bedroom night-table as well, and was taken as potential evidence). Fortunately we didn't have to call in our local 24/7 CSO Firearms unit, and a liason officer had already informed the Army's Lt.Col. Damsen-Marmalade-Smythe at SAS HQ, near (A Pub in Hereford) in case any specialist jam making assistance was required"
DPM 2J. Prescott, was later quoted as saying " That fucking Private Eye's gone too bloody far this time, making up all these libellous porkies, I'm gonna see to it that they get dragged through the courts by God"
It's not always easy.
Regards,
Fritz, innit*
N.B. For the sake of those of you out there who don't know the UK that well, Cumbria & The Lake District are Englands Jewel in the crown, for beauty & sheer wilderness. I camped there as a young warrior, though it was safe in those days of course, with no chance of murdering Grannies lurking in the tarns, and of course real police patrolled the sheep & fields, and were always there when you needed to know the time, unlike todays 'reportedly' Motley Shambling excuse for a Crew, but you know me!*
Oy! That sheep's smoking in a public place, You're nicked! What's yer name sheep?
Kevin, Sir*
"Do you know Mick Parry?"*
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Earwicker
Fritz,
Have you ever had the feeling you're spending too much time posting stuff on this forum?
EW
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by MichaelC
Prescott should publicly flog her for not paying her council tax.
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Nime
Though it seems almost churlish to mention this in the context of your recently published biography I was once interviewed and nearly arrested in the bath in Cumberland! And I had soap in my eyes! And I was only 9! Post traumatic stress still has my hands shaking as I remember the vivid details of the water going cold as they brow-beat me into further confessions for major crimes despite my complete innocence and gross immaturity! The village bobby was wont to clip an errant child around the ear just for scrumping! So there's a very long history of it going on up there! ***!
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Earwicker:
Fritz,
Have you ever had the feeling you're spending too much time posting stuff on this forum?
EW
No!
I trust you don't actually read it Dave?*
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Tarquin Maynard-Portly:
Nime
BTW, this is an apostrophe: '
This: * is not.
Good lad.
Is it not a Full Colon! shoreleave? *
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by andy c
fritz,
why should she not have been handcuffed?
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Nime
Is handcuffing not used as a means of restraint to protect the officers from injury and the prisoner from themselves?
In what way is handcuffing a 79 year old (with a heart condition) warranted?
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by andy c:
fritz,
why should she not have been handcuffed?
I'm surprised that you even question it Our Andy, it's obviously all made up, typical Eye rhetoric, besides you're the Pro here, and I don't recall saying that she shouldn't have been cuffed either!
I recall the great t'do and HooHa, when a 5 year old child was cuffed last year by cops in the Land of the free and the Brave (in front of everybody). Only becouse it had been automatically filmed did it become News (as with Rodney King). If an investigative 'journo' happenned to film the arrest of this Cumbrian Lassie, you know, and I know that he'd be nicked, and the camera/mobile lost asap, that's only sheer speculation you understand. Unelected Council officials/CSO's/'So-called Store Dicks' regularly handcuff people for mind-blowingly stupid reasons in the UK (Quite Illegally I may add, as they have no more power than the average man in the street, 'Citizens Arrest', hence your Warrant Card, but you know me, I ain't sayin nuffink further on the matter, except that maybe the Cops should themselves film, these 'delicate' arrests for their own protection, and peace of mind*
As with all taxes, the individual is personally responsible for their payment, not their IFA, accountant, firm, etc, tec, so I'd suggest that the recent 2 Jags fiasco, be compared somewhat to this case, especially for those that are supposedly enforcing the LAW of the Land*
innit: (full Colon) (Just had a Ruby)*
Regards,
Fritz
It's not always easy (without a Warrant card)
Say hello to Our Mick when you see him too*
P.S. If the Lady had died of an heart attack (Cuffed), The Cumbrian Police would have been hung drawn and quartered (probably resulting in the Chief Constable having to resign) : THAT'S THE POINT HERE: not too mention PUBLIC RELATIONS NATURALLY; or rather lack of them.
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
Two medical students were walking along the street when they saw an old man walking with his legs spread apart. One of the students said to his friend "I'm sure he has Petry Syndrome. Those people walk just like that." The other student says "No, I don't think so. The old man surely has Zovitzki Syndrome. He walks just as we learned in class."
Since they couldn't agree they decided to ask the old man. They approached the old man and one of the students said to him "We're medical students and couldn't help but notice the way you walk, but we couldn't agree on the syndrome you might have. Could you tell us what it is?"
The old man said "I'll tell you, but first you'll tell me what you think." One of the students said "I think it's Petry Syndrome."
The old man said "You thought.......... but you're wrong." Then the other student said "I think you have Zovitzki Syndrome." The old man said "You thought......... but you're wrong.
So they asked him "Well, what do you have?"
And the old man said "I thought It was a fart........... but I was also wrong."
Pork Pie Anyone?* (Question Mark & a Smiley)
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
People just don'r deserve dogs sometimes Luigi Old Bean* (other people as well quite often too)
Cheers,
Fritz*
Do you know the song 'Old Shep?'
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
Sorry to interupt, but is this you two starting a role playing game?
Pretty Bloody sad actually me Old Rasher, innit, just as I was saying above to Our Luigi, some people eh!*
At least I keep mesen to mesen, you know me!*
Fritz* (Smiley without a question mark)
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Tarquin Maynard-Portly:
I'm just wondering why Nome follows my posts with such interest, thn bleats on when I notice.
Odd of him but there you are. Maybe he has taken the hint.
As a Brigadier (retired or not) I feel this is no way to carry on Sir, at all, at all, surely you should kiss and make, because you really know, that deep in your heart of hearts that's really what you want to do,(both of you) just as Our Mick wants desperately to post now, but has something far more interesting to do*
N.B. Your spelling is bloody atrocious (early Nottingham Constabulary if i Is not mistaken), Must do more betterer*
Its not always easy
Lance Jack Carpetchewer** (Two Smilies)
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by u5227470736789439
Hello!
Happy New Year from Fredrik
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Nime
Fredrik! Godt Nyt År!
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Tarquin Maynard-Portly:
Greetings from Baron Tostov, the ruined Pole.
Just watching Leon (Directors Cut) for about the 6th time, and I must admit Tarquers Älte Bohnen, you really did train that Chap quite well didn't you*
Reminded me a bit of my Fathers best friend, Ben, a Cannie old London Paddy Publican, and ex Lord Wingates lot, just like Our Mick, innit.
Regards,
Acid Fritz*** (Three Smileys)
Happy New Year Too, Fredders you old Sex- Machine You*
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by u5227470736789439
Hello from slightly pissed and very tired Fred!
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:
Hello from slightly pissed and very tired Fred!
Never mind Our Fredders, next time it'll hopefully be the other way around, innit*
Cheers,
Fritz
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by JonR
Hi Fred, happy new year to you.
Welcome back to the world of internet forums!
Cheers,
Jon
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by u5227470736789439
Never mind Our Fredders, next time it'll hopefully be the other way around, innit*
Cheers,
Fritz[/QUOTE]
Dear Fritz,
Last weekend was! In Aberrystwith seeing a mate. I lost seven games of pool, and the total of beer was terrifying with hindsight! The police turned up at one o'clock to ask that the DVD film be turned down! Neigbours are a right nuisance sometimes. I never have that problem in this lovely toen though. I have been loan a PC so I am back, at least till I drive it into the ditch! Fred.
Posted on: 14 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz
I bet you were seeing green dragons after that lot Son*
Nos Da,
Fritz
Posted on: 15 January 2006 by andy c
quote:
Is handcuffing not used as a means of restraint to protect the officers from injury and the prisoner from themselves?
In what way is handcuffing a 79 year old (with a heart condition) warranted?
Nime - it was a slight joke on my part, woithout the use of smilies 'cos they are not 'in' at the mo, are they?
FWIW it's the officers own decision, is this one, based on a few factors, including the two you mention, & also to prevent loss of evidence, too.
sorry for any offence i may have caused.
andy c!
Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by andy c:
Nime - it was a slight joke on my part, woithout the use of smilies 'cos they are not 'in' at the mo, are they?
FWIW it's the officers own decision, is this one, based on a few factors, including the two you mention, & also to prevent loss of evidence, too.
sorry for any offence i may have caused.
andy c!
No offense to me andy. I can't say the same for the 79-year-old.
It's just as well they didn't put her in a stress inducing position while they questioned her. Denmark has just found itself guilty of having done so and is in breach of the Geneva Convention.
Why wasn't the fat gobshite who owed £8k handcuffed and dragged off to court? Because he has wealth and power and that's really the only justice today (and yesterday).
I'll leave you to fill in the smilies to taste.
Here's one to be going on with:
Posted on: 15 January 2006 by andy c
Nime,
fair points as usual.
Anyway I'm off now to do me ironing whilst listening to hed Kandi winter chill 3 - I'll not post any thing more policey on this thread - some contributors here think that's all I can hold a conversation about anyway!
regards
andy c!
Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Nime
Andy
You are much too hard on yourself! It's easy for us to be as cynical as well like and say practically anything that comes into our empty skulls. While completely ignoring the delicate position you find yourself in. Nobody else here would tolerate the invisible limitations that you manage to surmount so effortlessly in your posts. Your tact, diplomacy, humour and intelligence are a credit to your position and an asset to the forum. We need all the good guys we can get these days to remind us that not everyting is corrupt.
And, anyone tempted to post some cynical remark about my post had better make it funny!!
Posted on: 15 January 2006 by andy c
Nime,
kind words indeed - thank you.
I have done all me chores now - ironing, clean da cooker, and also da windows - I needed to put a bit of Prodigy on to do that!
No off to do some revising! I hate revising!
andy c!
Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Nime
With respect andy,
Negative thoughts do not make a task easier.
Visualisation of success is rather more constructive. Or so I am told.