Is Mick Parry A Nimby? 2:

Posted by: Berlin Fritz on 14 January 2006

When two police officers arrived to arrest Eliza Greenhall at her Carlisle home shortly before Christmas, they weren't going to stand any nonsense. So even though Mrs Greenhall is 79 and three-quarters and registered disabled with a serious heart condition, after that she protested that she need to cancel a doctor's appointment, they insisted on handcuffing her and escorting her out to their waiting car. Mrs Greenhall's crime? Failing to pay council tax arrears of around �800. The unpaid bill and warrant for her arrest came about after a dispute over the calculation of Mrs Greenhall's disability allowance and pension. In addition, a year ago she lost almost everything in Carlisle's floods.

Generously Carlisle magistrates declined to send her Mrs Greenhall to prison for Christmas, putting an order for recovery of the debt against her possessions (though due to floods she doesn't really have any). However, Mrs Greenhall and her family are outraged by the heavy-handed and humiliating actions of the police. "There really was no need to put me in shackles," she said. "I wasn't putting up a fight. I am 79 and I just wanted to call my GP to cancel my appointment. One of them even tightened the things with what looked like an alum key." It was in fact the second time that officers from the Cumbrian force had arrived to enforce the arrest warrant for non-payment. The first officer, after talking to Mrs Greenhall and asking what it was all about, said he would take more advice, adding that should he return "it would be with kindness".

Asked about its distinctly unkind treatment of a frail and and elderly woman, a spokesman for Cumbria poilce said that because of her age and disability, special arrangements had been made to arrest and take her straight to court, rather than as is usual into police custody. The officers had allowed her to take her heart medication and decided that the use of handcuffs was the "safest way to escort her to the car". That's a new one!

Lord Gnomes Thingy, handheld issue 1149, January 2006.

N.B. A spokesman for the Deputy Prime Minister, Brig. Maynard-Partly. RPG-and clip (Rtd), was quoted as saying "We just can't allow these type of people to strip the Nation's hard earned coffers bare through their greed and selfishness! Our highly trained and educated police officers risk their lives daily dealing with such 'Potential terrorists', and in my view should have pepper sprayed her, then tasered her (after ensuring she wasn't carrying semtex in her undergarments) (apparently a Bible was discovered concealed in her bedroom night-table as well, and was taken as potential evidence). Fortunately we didn't have to call in our local 24/7 CSO Firearms unit, and a liason officer had already informed the Army's Lt.Col. Damsen-Marmalade-Smythe at SAS HQ, near (A Pub in Hereford) in case any specialist jam making assistance was required"

DPM 2J. Prescott, was later quoted as saying " That fucking Private Eye's gone too bloody far this time, making up all these libellous porkies, I'm gonna see to it that they get dragged through the courts by God"

It's not always easy.

Regards,

Fritz, innit*

N.B. For the sake of those of you out there who don't know the UK that well, Cumbria & The Lake District are Englands Jewel in the crown, for beauty & sheer wilderness. I camped there as a young warrior, though it was safe in those days of course, with no chance of murdering Grannies lurking in the tarns, and of course real police patrolled the sheep & fields, and were always there when you needed to know the time, unlike todays 'reportedly' Motley Shambling excuse for a Crew, but you know me!*

Oy! That sheep's smoking in a public place, You're nicked! What's yer name sheep?

Kevin, Sir*

"Do you know Mick Parry?"*

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by JonR

Andy,

Wot Nime said - your diffidence under pressure is a credit to you.

Wot you revisin' for?

Cheers,

Jon

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

"We were doing this scene in the morgue, and I'm lying on the table, my eyes closed, and the energy that was coming off Sean (Penn) was so powerful I started to cry. And Clint Eastwood says, 'Cut, Emmy, that was great, but you can't cry. You're dead.'"

Emmy Rossum, Vanity Fair

I bet that was bloody hilarious, innit*

N.B. As well as Gordon Browns attempt to bring back British Pride, by everybody waving a flag, in his virtually bankrupt Golden Cycle, he's soon to declare 'National Hug A Policeman Week', and many a fancy dress emporium has been overwhelmed with demands for Coppers uniforms, especially in Liverpool, Glasgow, and Swindon*

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

quote:
Originally posted by Nime:
Andy

You are much too hard on yourself! It's easy for us to be as cynical as well like and say practically anything that comes into our empty skulls. While completely ignoring the delicate position you find yourself in. Nobody else here would tolerate the invisible limitations that you manage to surmount so effortlessly in your posts. Your tact, diplomacy, humour and intelligence are a credit to your position and an asset to the forum. We need all the good guys we can get these days to remind us that not everyting is corrupt.

And, anyone tempted to post some cynical remark about my post had better make it funny!!

Surely you mean Tarquin, Nime, me Old Pumpkin!*

Cheers,

Fritz*** (3 Smileys)

Easily Lead*

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Nime

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

Just had an e-mail from an old mate in London, who informed me that she and her family were thouroughly burgled over the holiday, nicking their brand new mondeo too, to carry it all in. The cops weren't particularly interested, and hopefully the insurance will pay out. A similar thing happenned to my sister & family two years ago not far from this incident, the police had visited once!

Probably all out on PR excercises, innit*

Fritz

On how it really is & not how it should be*

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Nime

Keep smiling Phritz.

You know it makes (no) sense.
I was burgled and had my car stolen on the same weekend.... 200 miles apart!
Now that is a clever trick!

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by andy c

quote:
Wot you revisin' for?

Promotion...

Fritz,
that's bad news re your friend, dwelling burglary is particulary intrusive and upsetting - a violition of one's privacy etc. I hope that the local police are treating it with due respect etc.

Nime,
Apparently, according to those who know me well, I underestimate myself - whatever that means lol. Off to the gym now then going to do so practice stuff with a colleague re the exam.

regards

andy c!

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Nime

A little modesty goes a long way. Look what happened to Hitler!

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

Both being teachers, I hope they were clever enough to have a tracker in the new motor?

Andy, Although a middle-Class surburbon area, very few such crimes are solved, and cars are not even bothered about in the main, the Police simply have other 'priorities', and if one atually decided to venture into an actual Police Station personally (as my own Mother recently did), it's a complete² waste of time. Blair boasts of massive police investemnt, Police say they haven't enough recources, Crime is through the roof (armed crime more so) and untrained and low grade people often make the situation far far worse*

Regards,

Fritz*

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by JonR

Fritz,

That's tough mate, I'm sorry to hear that.

My parents have been burgled four times in the last 25 years. They've eventually had an alarm installed but whose to say whether that will prevent a fifth from happening.

The only redeeming aspect is that they weren't in the house when the burglaries happened.

Mind you, it's got to the stage where sometimes they feel like putting a sign up outside the house saying:-

"THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO STEAL!"

Cheers,

Jon

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by andy c

In my part of the word burglary is a priority crime, and gets loads chucked at it, if you get my drift - hence reducing burglaries being reported, and increasing detections as well.

Perhaps you friend would be advised to enquire re scenec CSI etc...?

andy c!

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

quote:
Originally posted by andy c:
In my part of the word burglary is a priority crime, and gets loads chucked at it, if you get my drift - hence reducing burglaries being reported, and increasing detections as well.

Perhaps you friend would be advised to enquire re scenec CSI etc...?

andy c!

As with myself, sister, & obviously my Mother, and my friends here, we all come from Met Police backgounds, and with respect Andy old Chum, such comments, although I'm sure well meaning, are unfortunately totally laughable, and unrealistic, unless serious physical crime was committed (then there's more chance), Reality is, wind neck in, get insurance money, sue alarm company, forget about it, and get on with living in the Smoke.

Second option is to investigate ones-self, and 'do what has to be done', though unfortunately when one has kids, this is not an easy viable option, issit.

Fritz

Telling it how it is*

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by andy c

Fritz,

On this occasion u can back off a little, dude, just a little...tho. I meant what I said - and have proof to back it up. Please note the reply was in the detail - around where I work... etc. I don't know what he relevant procedures are where your friend lives - I posted specifically re what I actually know applies to my area.

andy c!

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

quote:
Originally posted by andy c:
Fritz,

On this occasion u can back off a little, dude, just a little...tho. I meant what I said - and have proof to back it up. Please note the reply was in the detail - around where I work... etc. I don't know what he relevant procedures are where your friend lives - I posted specifically re what I actually know applies to my area.

andy c!

Andy Old Son, not wishing to disturb your fitness training here! but I'm well aware of what you said, and that it pertains to your own traffic & criminal investigation experience, and in your neck of the woods, etc, which to be honest seem self-explanatory. You don't need to go on the defence Old bean, there are no secret, or hidden-agenda's here, and as I've often made it perfectly clear in this place, I personally have no lack of understanding for the need for an efficient & Well respected Police Service (across the land), something that can naturally only be attained from the Public, when, and where, it's seen & deemed to have been finally earned. My comments are not cynical, they are what 99% of folk in UK truly think, I think, through both bad experience, and bad press, and before the first wise-guy mentions my knowing what 99% of the British Public think! I'd say to them, get a life, and go and live with Alisdaire Campbell for a fortnight, innit*

Regards,

Fritz*

It's not always easy*
Don't strain that drinking arm now John*

An ex-neighbour of mine once had his beloved motor nicked from right in front of his house. It was found 6 hours later, and two men arrested, the house being a Police house, and he being an Inspector in, er, traffic, of course it was different in those days, wunnit*

Hence the need for most Met coppers without garages, to drive bangers, as they were constantly getting vandalised, probably different now though too?*

N.B. It is very comforting to know that at least in some parts of the country, CSI units are on the ball at every domestic burglery, in fact it's almost a miracle, but you know me, always the optimist, they'll be having local 'unelected' Councillors telling Chief Supers what to do next, innit** God Forbid:

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Nime

Aren't we lucky we have you to speak up for the entire British nation Phritz?

Who's Alisdaire Campell? Does he know I'm coming to stay for a fortnight?

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

quote:
Originally posted by Nime:
Aren't we lucky we have you to speak up for the entire British nation Phritz?

Who's Alisdaire Campell? Does he know I'm coming to stay for a fortnight?

I'll give him a swift Graham Alexander to tell him your coming Son.

Fritz.

I recieved an hillarious wmv. thingy last night from an old school chum (The fat Controller 3MB), I'll forward it to any interested from usual address (next 24 hours only, then it's gorn)*

N.B. I was on a little Recce earlier, to check out my new prospective place of work? (only 15 minutes to walk fortunately, so no fares for a start). I've been studying their website too, and it's fairly daunting, to put it mildly, but I reckon it'll be just a case of Genning up on loads of Old bullshit, using ones imagination to hide ones stupidity, and Robert's yer radio, bit like posting on here really, innit*

Just hope I can find a decent pair of trousers to squeeze into that's all, never mind the bad press*

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

"AL4N
Member
Posted Mon 30 December 2002 23:01
Given that my memory is not what it used to be(I'm know in my 30's), what joke's can you offer that may have a chance of being remembered,
cheer's Alan"

How about the repetitive hypocrisy & endless Self-Righteousness expressed daily on the 'Old Pink Salmon Show?'

I ain't sayin Nuffin John*

Fritz

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

Let's hope that the Pubs in Thunderland close tonight on time as dictated by their licences?

Now that nearly '200' establishments (including Supermarkets) have 24 hour 'Booze Selling' rights in England & er, Wales, it's Gonna put a lot of extra strain on the local already hard pressed Police forces, with all the mindless binge-drinking and all to-boot!

When you think about it, it's really quite shocking & stunning, and then there's the new anti-smoking Laws soon to be implimented too. I was reminded yesterday as well, that England & Wales have combined 'Licenced Premises' of some, er, 83,000+, amazing really, all that money for BOOZE, innit*

Posted on: 15 January 2006 by Berlin Fritz

I see that Saddams trial judge has quit then, What a surprise!

Tarquers! since 06.04.81. actually, and if you are possibly implying that my UK information is 'selective' and irrellevant, as with say, a Senior Peadiatrician who's not a parent discussing Fatherhood, or a non Mason discussing the concepts of Masonry, then I feel you are mistaken Old Chap, but you know me!

Regards,

Fritz* (Single Smiley)

P.S. That rumour service link you mentioned is quite interesting, innit*

Posted on: 16 January 2006 by Aric

Fritz,

Did you hear about the sexual escapades of two men and a horse in Washington (state) a couple of months ago?

FritzVonitgivesanewmeaningtointernalbleeding, innit*