Straightforward DVD5 SCART Settings ?

Posted by: Roy Donaldson on 15 December 2005

Hi there,

Just looking at a DVD5 at present. I have it connected up via SCART, RGB to a Sony CRT at present (don't ask about the LCD Roll Eyes

I can get the menu up via RGB, however when I play a DVD I got no picture. I hit the Setup button and I get the DVD5 menu, overlayed on the picture ! argh.

What should the basic settings be on it just to play back a DVD via it's SCART output ?

Thanks,
Roy.
Posted on: 15 December 2005 by Mark R
Roy,

Check that the setting for interlaced is not set to "off" under Video Setup -> Video Outputs Off.

-Mark.
Posted on: 07 January 2006 by niceguy235uk
i had this prob with my first 5 and the dealers demo one.

Make sure that the players 'dispay off' isnt set to on.

for some reason when you come out of the setup menu it shuts off the video side.

Display off was originally intended for cd playback as it shuts off the video circuits as well to improve cd playback, but was creeping into the dvd side of things too.

The new firmware should sort this out.
Posted on: 07 January 2006 by Steve2701
While I had my DVD5 set to RGB in 1 mode I also could not get a picture, then read the small print that on 'macrovision' encoded discs no output can be given due to copy protection. This happens to be on the vast majority of discs I have.(Nothing to do with Naim I would add, it's an industry thing.) The player simply worked fine straight out of the box, it was only when messing in those excellent menus that I messed up the settings.
Posted on: 10 January 2006 by Graham Ridgway
what did you do to sort the problem Steve, as it looks like I have the same problem.
Graham
Posted on: 11 January 2006 by Mark R
Graham,

I had similar problems to Steve regarding RGB setup. I was hoping to go for RGB on all discs, but the Macrovision protection blocks it. The solution is to set the colour format (under High Definition Setup) to YPbPr and match the settings on your display. For example, I can set my screen to either "Component" or "RGB". I set it to "Component" when the DVD5 is set to YPbPr and "RGB" when the player is set to "RGB". Mixing settings can result in "no signal".

-Mark.
p.s. YPbPr is the default, out of the box setting on the DVD5.
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by Graham Ridgway
sadly that doesn't appear to be it. My screen only has RGB and the output is set to RGB.
Graham
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Steve2701
Graham,
Sorry, I have not visited this thread for a while & did not see your question.
As Mark stated above, in the menus you can set RGB, YPBR etc.. so I had a mooch around in those, getting some fairly eeeeeerrm interesting results, like a fully pink screen, black screen and a green screen.
Only when fully understanding what my panel could accept did it get resolved. I wanted RGB output (the best) but my panel will only accept YPBR on component input, so if it sees another signal it throws a fit and turns green (or pink) literally.
Aint technology lovely at times. I wonder if HDMI will cure this or raise its own set of problems??
Graham, what sort of screen are you feeding a signal to and with what (scart, component?) and what dvds fail to play, or can non play? Can you get a non macrovision disc to see if it is that that is causing you a problem?
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Graham Ridgway
Hi Steve, I am feeding a Panasonic TH-42PWD5 plasma. I'm a bit of a numpty with these things, but it uses a component cable (3 BNCs) and the plasma recognises it when set to RGB input.

I am not sure how to tell whether the DVD is/has macrovision, but I have looked on the back of them and cant see anything! Pretty much everything has the problem and I can't see any pattern.

On trying different outputs, I get several varieties of green etc and only the RGB output setting seems to work at all.

Graham
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Mark R
Graham,

I have a 42PWD6 and can select "RGB" or "Component" on the input that is currently selected (in my case I use the analogue component input). I don't have the remote with me right now, but will post the steps I go through when I'm in front of the remote.

Steve - I think the HDMI/DVI input has to be HDCP compliant over digital connections with the DVD5. The input on my screen is RGB for DVI, but because of HDCP the signal cannot be copied. The Macrovision block on RGB over analogue is there, I believe, to protect high quality (albeit analogue) copies being made, so they force you down to YPbPr. Because HDCP is present over DVI/HDMI, you can't make a copy, so RGB is "allowed".

-Mark.
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Mark R
Graham,

For the 42PWD6 I have a remote with a model number of 'EUR646529' and it looks like this.

To get the input to switch between Component and RGB, press "SETUP" on the channel that you are using for DVD input. On screen you should see the setup menu, and the first option is "COMPONENT/RGB-IN SELECT". You can flip between component and rgb here. Set it to component.

There is more info on Panasonic plasmas here.

Hope this helps with the setup.

-Mark.
Posted on: 18 January 2006 by Steve2701
Mark, Graham.
We all have prety much the same panels. Mine is also the PW42-6 (BX) Mine is now 2 years old. It is fed via the seperate 'tuner box' that was an option.

With the PW5 & PW6 (in the uk at least) it is only possible to feed the panel with an analogue signal. There were no input cards available for DVI / HDMI.

I am not sure if Graham is using the same tuner box as me or just a cable straight to the back of the panel, but the result will be the same. The DVD5 needs to be set to YPbPr as this is simply the best that the panel will accept via component cables in the UK.. at least that is my understanding of it.
My DVD5 is set to this for component cables, when I had the panel connected via scart (as the SKY box still is, the sky box sends out RGB & it accepts that witout a problem at all!! I am reasonably certain that it is the marovision block that is causing all the problems. About this I am not 100% certain and stand to be corrected if anyone knows better?
So Graham, if you set your DVD5 to output YPbPr on component, set your panel to accept YPbPr on component input, everything 'should' work.
For the sake of completenes, the seperate 'tuner box' only has inputs for 1 scart in rgb, 1 set of component leads, and two other scart inputs in 'S' video.
I needed 2 RGB scart inputs, one for sky, and one for the HDD recorder.
To enable this I use a scart switch box.
When watching / switching sky - HDD the input selector comes on screen as AV1 - RGB. When switching to the DVD5 it comes up as AV4C (component)
Graham, if I can be of any more help I will happily give you my email address?

Steve.
Posted on: 18 January 2006 by Graham Ridgway
brilliant guys, that looks like it has worked!

Got some horrible interference on the pic (not the kind that says the setup optins are mismatched), but that's tomorrow's problem!

Thanks again!
Posted on: 19 January 2006 by Steve2701
Graham, glad you got that sorted!
Welcome to the world of flat panels that demand attention to detail...

Interference. Yup had that to, and still do to a small degree.

Mine was cured by a new, correctly aligned aerial.
But.
The signal from that (as I now know) was so strong it destroyed the incoming signal from sky. I thought I had blown the sky box so went and bought a new one, only to find the problem still there. The answer was to move the signal from sky as far away from the terestial one as possible (I thnk I moved it some 30 channels away from memory) and voila... job done. I find general beeb analogue broadcasts to be worst, itv and c4 seem to be fine, but for most use I insist on a digital signal from sky,, then zero interference. The picture q from the dvd5 is stunning, as it damn well should be!

Where is your interference appearing?
Posted on: 19 January 2006 by Graham Ridgway
thanks Steve, I have the plasma fed direct from the DVD5 as I don't have a tuner for it. I'm awaiting a new cable to see of that cures the interference problem which is on the DVD output.

Graham