new HDX with SD

I take it that the music will now reside on an external drive and that this will only be temporary storage and for carrying the OS ?

Info please Naim.

James

So do we think that this the streamer we're waiting for?
Ralf

Any more information out there about this?

Thanks

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Originally posted by T38.45:
So do we think that this the streamer we're waiting for?
Ralf

Sort of but not quite. It has a DACinthebox and rips too so its a bit more than a streamer. As is Naims way they will always put their own spin on things but I do hope we will see a streamer at some stage in the future.

Hello Julian,

do you have more informations/pictures from the HDX SD?

Is there a van inside?

One or two SDs?

IS the sound similar to the "old" HDX?

Any price or delivery informations?

Regards Alex

I am assuming that by SD you mean Solid State Disk? Just checking.....

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Originally posted by lamby2244:
I am assuming that by SD you mean Solid State Disk? Just checking.....

I am assuming the same.

This sound interesting. But as already stated drop the DAC as well and we have the streamer we have been asking for. I can leave with the ripping being done on the bax if it does it better then a computer and the fact that it will be switched off in the music play mode so no negative impact.

Administrators, more information please.

ASenna04

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Originally posted by AllenB:

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Originally posted by T38.45:
So do we think that this the streamer we're waiting for?
Ralf

Ralf

Maybe the streamer / ripper, but for a pure streamer (with / without ripper) to team up with the DAC, you wouldn't need the internal DAC, analogue output stages and associated beefy power supply. Take those out and you might just have the machine a lot of us are waiting for (at what should be a reasonable cost too). Personally, I could even live with (and pay for ) the touchscreen, just for added 'bling'

Allen

I second that.

ASenna04

Thirded - a sort of SB Touch without the on-board DAC.

How about putting the clock in a box of its own then a CD transport, other transport/streamer and DAC could all clock from a central point - star clocking.

ROTF said:

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How about putting the clock in a box of its own then a CD transport, other transport/streamer and DAC could all clock from a central point - star clocking.

Funny you should say that - I was just looking at a review in latest HFW mag. of a SERIOUSLY expensive 4-box DAC (dCS Paganini). That has a seperate box for everything, including the "Master Clock".
I bet it hasn't gone unnoticed at Naim...
Tonytronic.

Ok - a little bit more information from the highest placed authority.

HDX-SD has expected availability from sometime in May and an expected price slightly higher than the standard HDX. It lacks internal hard disc drives and instead will rip to NAS. It does contain a solid state drive for running the platform and is therefore apparently "very quiet".

I think that these details simply confirm what those who attended the Bristol show could have heard for themselves.

My queries are

What is the audio performance as compared to the HDX, especially when each is run with 555PS, DAC.

Does the latest HDX software permit the powering down of the internal hard disc drives (once the platform has loaded) if one would chose to use it exclusively with NAS, and if so, how does the audio performance then compare with the HDX-SD?

Will Naim produce a NAS to go with the HDX-SD? (I would think not).

Of course, at least some of these questions can only be answered by those at Naim for the time being...

I wonder if this will become available as an update for older HDX models.

Regards,
Michel

Nope, not what is wanted.

Just looking for a simple streamer to go between a storage device (PC, NAS etc) and the DAC. Must have a remote option and a touch screen to show the album art, contents , menu etc.

Don't need built in DAC, pre-amp, power amp or any other gizmos.

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Originally posted by Jo Sharp:
Nope, not what is wanted.

Just looking for a simple streamer to go between a storage device (PC, NAS etc) and the DAC. Must have a remote option and a touch screen to show the album art, contents , menu etc.

Don't need built in DAC, pre-amp, power amp or any other gizmos.

till things settledown i ve got a sonos£230 z90 use iphone for control dig out to ndac excellent result. rip with ripnas allan

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Originally posted by AllenB:
As I have intimated before, just need the HDX-SD without the internal DAC, analogue output stages and beefed up power supply (simple good quality PS only required to run the computer / digital side of things). SSD runs the OS and the bespoke software / ripping engine, BNC digital out to the DAC. A simplified HDX is what many seem to want, but Naim seem to be skirting around this. Why is that?

it seems the direction naim is taking is similar to linn. units for new customers nor exsisting. i too just require is for example a cute with no amp/radio/headphone etc just want a unit with dig out and no additions that wouldnt be use. rumours are that other companies are work the same way. i want the ndac to be the hub in my system allan

Look like the old HDX on steroids!

I would like to upgrade my HDX.

Naim, think of this as a new business deal. Charge a reasonable amount for it and it is a deal!

Yes agreed, strip it to its bone, mate it with the Naim DAC and you have a killer machine.

so instead of a list of features, just take the HDX and strip away all the fat, which includes CD drive, the 2 hard drives, the screen.

That would result in a product like the Transporter or the Linn DS.

And that is the product that many of us Slim users have been waiting for.

Now that many of us got the DAC, may be they should have a pure streamer without the DAC too.

(PS Audio's new DAC includs a slot for a network player "module" to be installed into the DAC as an option. IMHO that is how simple/stripped the network player should be.)

+1 for simplified HDX with no internal DAC

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Originally posted by AllenB:
As I have intimated before, just need the HDX-SD without the internal DAC, analogue output stages and beefed up power supply (simple good quality PS only required to run the computer / digital side of things). SSD runs the OS and the bespoke software / ripping engine, BNC digital out to the DAC. A simplified HDX is what many seem to want, but Naim seem to be skirting around this. Why is that?

The new HDX-SD looks really good to me. The specification - such as we know - seems pretty perfect.

However, I have no idea why it should be more expensive. It has less - storage capability - so it should cost less.

Anyway, the real point of my post is to let Naim know that not everyone is critical.

Or replace the HDX's DAC (which is its weak point) - with an embedded Naim DAC!

Now that would be an interesting product & what the HDX should have been all along - IMO

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Originally posted by Bananahead:
However, I have no idea why it should be more expensive. It has less - storage capability - so it should cost less.

Yes, rather than a HDX on steroid. The point is it should be an HDX stripped to its bone. Like a stripped Lotus sports car.

@paremus

I second that.

Paremus--

You assume that one can simply stick the new DAC in an HDX box and get equivalent performance of HDX + DAC. Just like those who dream of a super integrated amp consisting of 552 + 500, or whatever, you have not taken into account the advantage of multiple boxes (isolated power supplies, etc.), IMHO.

I'd go for a streamer plus the radio bit as per Uniti.

AHT

So you are telling me that you can do a single box for a CDS player - i.e. the CDS3 or 555, but not an HDX equivalent?

Mmmmm - seems inconsistent to me.

Yet if that is true - IMO Naim shouldn't have compromised and should have left the DAC out completely.