They've chickened out?
Posted by: Nime on 14 October 2005
Bird flu has now frighted people away from chicken sales in the supemarkets.
Doesn't cooking kill the killer bugs?
Doesn't cooking kill the killer bugs?
Posted on: 15 October 2005 by garyi
Yep it can only be transmitted from the live bird, and more over there has to be a set of criteria met that most humans need never concern themselves with.
60 people have died in Asia of a population of around 3 billion, I suspect more died on the bog.
60 people have died in Asia of a population of around 3 billion, I suspect more died on the bog.
Posted on: 15 October 2005 by long-time-dead
It's ironic that it was discovered in Turkey .......
Posted on: 15 October 2005 by Aiken Drum
quote:Bird flu has now frighted people away from chicken sales in the supemarkets
Demand for brown eggs from supermarkets increased dramatically when Delia featured them in her book/programme a few yeaers ago. Maybe she needs to ve encouraged to stop cheerleading for her football club and put together a new book, programme and some chicken recipes...
Posted on: 15 October 2005 by Nime
quote:Originally posted by long-time-dead:
It's ironic that it was discovered in Turkey .......
I don't know why. But that is funny!
Must be the medicinal Riggwelter. (Black Sheep Brewery 5.7%) I just discovered my stock was nearing its sell by date.
Posted on: 17 October 2005 by Ioniser
Noticed the headline of a certain right-wing paper this morning screaming that bird flu *will* hit britain - and kill 50,000.
Just like BSE was going to kill everyone, salmonella, e-coli, SARS, the meteorite and of course the killer bees, etc. etc.....
Has the bird-flu actually killed anyone yet, or is it simply *possible* that it will mutate and pass to humans?
Still, the mass farming methods that usually cause this sort of thing are another reason for the veggies to be smug.
Grahame.
Just like BSE was going to kill everyone, salmonella, e-coli, SARS, the meteorite and of course the killer bees, etc. etc.....
Has the bird-flu actually killed anyone yet, or is it simply *possible* that it will mutate and pass to humans?
Still, the mass farming methods that usually cause this sort of thing are another reason for the veggies to be smug.
Grahame.
Posted on: 17 October 2005 by Bob McC
It has killed half the people who've caught it. This is the problem I suspect!
Bob
Bob
Posted on: 17 October 2005 by bjorne
See Garyis post. 60 persons dead in Asia. Just another media hype imo...
Posted on: 17 October 2005 by RiNo
The problem is if the bird flu would behave as the normal flu, ie "transform/mutate" so it spreads between humans more rapidly, then there would be a serious problem...
I heard a story on the news (with a spokesmen from a division of the UN) that if proper measures are taken 5 millions, instead of 500 million people, might be killed in an outbreak.
Hmm, even if they are wrong a lot of people will probably be killed by a variant of the Bird flu.
I heard a story on the news (with a spokesmen from a division of the UN) that if proper measures are taken 5 millions, instead of 500 million people, might be killed in an outbreak.
Hmm, even if they are wrong a lot of people will probably be killed by a variant of the Bird flu.
Posted on: 17 October 2005 by JonR
Today's Metro quotes, erm... "interprets" the government's chief medical advisor as saying that up to 750,000 people could be killed.
Publisher?
The same as that right-wing paper mentioned above!
Publisher?
The same as that right-wing paper mentioned above!
Posted on: 17 October 2005 by Steve Toy
12000 folks die each year from normal flu.
The question to be asked is, as a normal, healthy human being who contracts this version of flu, what are his/her survival chances?
If it's like the EBOLA virus, we need to start worrying.
Meanwhile, once the mutated virus (not known yet) takes form, can we rely on our NHS to scramble to provide both healthcare for those inflicted and/or some form of vaccination for those that are not who may be at risk - even if the latter includes us all?
Whatever is the case, I hope we can rely on some transparency from a government - perhaps more concerned with its political survival rather than that of a a potentially significant number of those who put them in office in the first place.
We need to be told by those responsible for any outcome ahead of those making money selling scare stories.
The question to be asked is, as a normal, healthy human being who contracts this version of flu, what are his/her survival chances?
If it's like the EBOLA virus, we need to start worrying.
Meanwhile, once the mutated virus (not known yet) takes form, can we rely on our NHS to scramble to provide both healthcare for those inflicted and/or some form of vaccination for those that are not who may be at risk - even if the latter includes us all?
Whatever is the case, I hope we can rely on some transparency from a government - perhaps more concerned with its political survival rather than that of a a potentially significant number of those who put them in office in the first place.
We need to be told by those responsible for any outcome ahead of those making money selling scare stories.
Posted on: 17 October 2005 by u5227470736789439
Dear Steve,
If you consider that reported deaths in the last really major epidemic (pandemic if you like) in 1918 were in the range 20 to 40 million, and then consider the population of the world at the time, which was 2 or 3 billions, then I think it safe to say the media stories alert us to a serious situation, but not exactly likely to be serious like the bubonic plague. Personally I could be hardly less concerned. There really are more serious issues to face IMO, but I can quite see that others, possibly yourself as well, may take a different view.
Fredrik
If you consider that reported deaths in the last really major epidemic (pandemic if you like) in 1918 were in the range 20 to 40 million, and then consider the population of the world at the time, which was 2 or 3 billions, then I think it safe to say the media stories alert us to a serious situation, but not exactly likely to be serious like the bubonic plague. Personally I could be hardly less concerned. There really are more serious issues to face IMO, but I can quite see that others, possibly yourself as well, may take a different view.
Fredrik
Posted on: 17 October 2005 by Chris Dolan
quote:We need to be told by those responsible for any outcome ahead of those making money selling scare stories.
Scare stories sell newspapers.
There may be a "bird flu" pandemic, but no guarantees!
Even if there isn't we are all going to die sooner or later.
Chris
Posted on: 18 October 2005 by RiNo
It´s not only a question of population, since the globalisation is a major concern. Diseases spread much more quickly nowadays, due to increased travel.
It there is an outbreak there will be a serious shortage of vaccin!!!
It there is an outbreak there will be a serious shortage of vaccin!!!
Posted on: 18 October 2005 by Nime
I only once took advanatage of the free flu vaccine at work. Then spent the next 18 months with constant flu symptoms, endless colds, complete loss of my sense of smell except for a constant foul oily smell. I had endless nose bleeds which continue to this day several years later in occasional bouts. I ended up having scans after visiting an ENT specialist.
Fortunately it was finally and quickly cured by short course of antibiotics prescribed by my GP. But what choice do I have now as I'm being offered the annual free flu jab again with the bird flu hovering in the background?
There are fewer takers on the list for the flue jab each year. I'm certainly in no position to advise them, for or against.
Fortunately it was finally and quickly cured by short course of antibiotics prescribed by my GP. But what choice do I have now as I'm being offered the annual free flu jab again with the bird flu hovering in the background?
There are fewer takers on the list for the flue jab each year. I'm certainly in no position to advise them, for or against.