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Posted by: J.N. on 16 November 2002
1. Coldplay - Rush Of Blood
2. David Gray - New Day
These two are seriously bad recordings/productions.
The new Santana isn't much better. A friend has a Buddy Holly CD recorded in 1958 that pisses on these discs.
What is going on. Is it fashion, or incompetence?
2. David Gray - New Day
These two are seriously bad recordings/productions.
The new Santana isn't much better. A friend has a Buddy Holly CD recorded in 1958 that pisses on these discs.
What is going on. Is it fashion, or incompetence?
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by Former member
quote:
Originally posted by J.N.:
What is going on. Is it fashion, or incompetence?
I vote for incompetence
"Murphy was an optimist"
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by Former member
... if your listening to the radio.
Funnily enough they were playing coldplay when
I was in Tower earlier this evening and I
thought this sounds damn good. A quick glance
at the ceiling and there are the cheap speakers.
I tend to listen to music in the car on the way to
work (it's the standard CD system fitted and I guess cost < $200) and I
think wow this sounds great.
I then take that album and play it on my home
system (>$20,000) and then spot the flaws. At a guess, I'd say that 80% of the discs I've bought
have been disappointing in this respect.
You hope for a jump in clarity and space etc. but
your system shreds it and says "look at this mess".
Funnily enough they were playing coldplay when
I was in Tower earlier this evening and I
thought this sounds damn good. A quick glance
at the ceiling and there are the cheap speakers.
I tend to listen to music in the car on the way to
work (it's the standard CD system fitted and I guess cost < $200) and I
think wow this sounds great.
I then take that album and play it on my home
system (>$20,000) and then spot the flaws. At a guess, I'd say that 80% of the discs I've bought
have been disappointing in this respect.
You hope for a jump in clarity and space etc. but
your system shreds it and says "look at this mess".
Posted on: 17 November 2002 by NB
Quote:-
What is going on. Is it fashion, or incompetence?
My vote is for crap music in the first place. I think any decent producer would have trouble making Coldplay and David Gray sound good!!
Regards
NB
What is going on. Is it fashion, or incompetence?
My vote is for crap music in the first place. I think any decent producer would have trouble making Coldplay and David Gray sound good!!
Regards
NB
Posted on: 17 November 2002 by J.N.
Tell me who I should be listening to and I'll chuck out everything you don't approve of.
Posted on: 17 November 2002 by Former member
What often concerns me is that so-called "crap recordings" can sound improved if I alternate between speakers and headphones.
I've been disappointed by some CD's on my main system (using speakers) only to find that if I play the disc and listen on headphones it sounds better. Incidentally, this can work in reverse. I've also been horrified by some discs on 'phones only to find they sound great over the speakers!
I suppose there is some truth in the advice given by hi-fi reviewers who suggest taking one of your worst discs to a dealers if you are having a demo. You might be surprised how good it can sound on another system.
I don't know the Coldplay or David Gray discs, but I could name dozens that sound crap, for one reason or another.
Maybe Jimmy Hughes has the right idea. He seems to favour a system that does not excel in one particular area.
Well, I think I'll try turning my speakers to face the wall .....
Dave
I've been disappointed by some CD's on my main system (using speakers) only to find that if I play the disc and listen on headphones it sounds better. Incidentally, this can work in reverse. I've also been horrified by some discs on 'phones only to find they sound great over the speakers!
I suppose there is some truth in the advice given by hi-fi reviewers who suggest taking one of your worst discs to a dealers if you are having a demo. You might be surprised how good it can sound on another system.
I don't know the Coldplay or David Gray discs, but I could name dozens that sound crap, for one reason or another.
Maybe Jimmy Hughes has the right idea. He seems to favour a system that does not excel in one particular area.
Well, I think I'll try turning my speakers to face the wall .....
Dave
Posted on: 17 November 2002 by J.N.
The Coldplay is not good on my system, but is rendered painful through a 552/500 which is ruthlessly revealing.
Good recordings are stunning, of course.
The price one pays for opening the window.
Good recordings are stunning, of course.
The price one pays for opening the window.
Posted on: 18 November 2002 by Former member
The new Apples In Stereo sounds like ASS! I'm going to return it today. It's just unlistenable and that was in my CAR! I'm afraid to put it on a hi-fi!
Posted on: 18 November 2002 by Former member
I'm a bit suprised that both David Gray and Coldplay's new albums are both completely the opposite of their previous relases which IMO sounded brilliant.
BTW didn't David Gray record White Ladder in his bedroom, or something like that.
BTW didn't David Gray record White Ladder in his bedroom, or something like that.
Posted on: 18 November 2002 by Former member
I only have a problem with the rare recordings that are painfully harsh.
Otherwise recording quality isn't really an issue.
Otherwise recording quality isn't really an issue.
Posted on: 18 November 2002 by J.N.
You're right. 'White Ladder' was virtually a home made recording and sounds reasonably good.
The new one on a major label sounds pants.
It's not as good musically, either.
The new one on a major label sounds pants.
It's not as good musically, either.
Posted on: 18 November 2002 by ejl
Iron and Wine is a new, Nick-Drake-alike album being touted in various places as album of the year material.
It's sonically dreadful -- utterly lifeless and distant.
The album was recorded in the the singer's home, but this is no excuse for the pathetic production quality. Even within the Nick Drake set, recent at-home recordings (like Neil Halstead's latest) have maintained high production values.
Iron and Wine's music would have to be really good to overcome the massive recording handicap here. FWIW, it's not.
It's sonically dreadful -- utterly lifeless and distant.
The album was recorded in the the singer's home, but this is no excuse for the pathetic production quality. Even within the Nick Drake set, recent at-home recordings (like Neil Halstead's latest) have maintained high production values.
Iron and Wine's music would have to be really good to overcome the massive recording handicap here. FWIW, it's not.