Savings and Investments?
Posted by: Paul Hutchings on 20 April 2005
Supposing I were prudent enough to have saved up quite a bit of money but never bothered to do anything with it except leave it in the bank where it earns approximately Jack Shit per year.. what could I do with it?
I would want zero risk and to be able to access some or all of it with little notice, not that I'm planning on doing so but you never know when the need might arise etc.
I'm sure the sensible thing is to speak to an IFA but I wondered if "the panel" have some advice that might point me in the right sort of direction?
cheers,
Paul
I would want zero risk and to be able to access some or all of it with little notice, not that I'm planning on doing so but you never know when the need might arise etc.
I'm sure the sensible thing is to speak to an IFA but I wondered if "the panel" have some advice that might point me in the right sort of direction?
cheers,
Paul
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Steve G
I was in a similar situation recently and, after research and discussions with an IFA, I bought a rental property.
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
The Royal Mail
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
quote:Originally posted by Steve G:
I was in a similar situation recently and, after research and discussions with an IFA, I bought a rental property.
That wouldn't be radio rental now would it ?
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Paul Hutchings
quote:Originally posted by Steve G:
I was in a similar situation recently and, after research and discussions with an IFA, I bought a rental property.
Not that much.. I bloody wish
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Nime
30k per family member into the Premium Bonds?
Posted on: 21 April 2005 by superhoops
Paul
I would put some/all of it in a cash ISA. The tax free allowance is £3k per annum(so if you have a partner that takes you up to £6k per annum you're allowed to invest).
There are a number of providers, I think the Guardian on a Saturday has a list of who is offering the best interest rates. Some are internet only and others postal/phone. You will need to check that you can have instant access (ie you ring them up and they send you a cheque the next day). The ones with access restrictions generally offer a slightly higher rate but the difference is marginal. Marks and Spencer has a no notice instant access one.
Otherwise if you have more than the £3-£6k you could go for something like ING who have a 5% interest paying account (they are ramming their adverts down everyone's throat like there's no tomorrow) but you will have to pay tax on your interest which will reduce it to 4% or thereabouts.
You could also go for Premium Bonds. If you do the sums on probability then on balance you are not likely to make as much of a return than if you put it in a decent interest bearing account. However there is always the chance you might do better than expected out of it which might appeal to you.
Otherwise if you have lots of cash that you can't afford to risk, buy government bonds. Safe as houses (more safe, in fact).
Howard
I would put some/all of it in a cash ISA. The tax free allowance is £3k per annum(so if you have a partner that takes you up to £6k per annum you're allowed to invest).
There are a number of providers, I think the Guardian on a Saturday has a list of who is offering the best interest rates. Some are internet only and others postal/phone. You will need to check that you can have instant access (ie you ring them up and they send you a cheque the next day). The ones with access restrictions generally offer a slightly higher rate but the difference is marginal. Marks and Spencer has a no notice instant access one.
Otherwise if you have more than the £3-£6k you could go for something like ING who have a 5% interest paying account (they are ramming their adverts down everyone's throat like there's no tomorrow) but you will have to pay tax on your interest which will reduce it to 4% or thereabouts.
You could also go for Premium Bonds. If you do the sums on probability then on balance you are not likely to make as much of a return than if you put it in a decent interest bearing account. However there is always the chance you might do better than expected out of it which might appeal to you.
Otherwise if you have lots of cash that you can't afford to risk, buy government bonds. Safe as houses (more safe, in fact).
Howard
Posted on: 21 April 2005 by superhoops
just re-read your posting. Government bonds won't work. I think they are for long term investments that you have said you don't want. I think premium bonds (not the same thing) have a 30 day notice period so they might still be in the running for you.
Posted on: 21 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
And no interest
Posted on: 21 April 2005 by Steve G
quote:Originally posted by Paul Hutchings:quote:Originally posted by Steve G:
I was in a similar situation recently and, after research and discussions with an IFA, I bought a rental property.
Not that much.. I bloody wish
You don't need the full value of the property. The banks we spoke to generally needed something like a 20% deposit for a mortgage on a rental property.
Posted on: 21 April 2005 by Mick P
Chaps
I would advise against buying a rental property at the moment. Prices are high and will stabilise for a few years, if not drop.
Your profits on the rent are minimal and I am having to spend a fair amount of cash which will reduce my rental profits considerably.
The way to look at rental property is that someone else is paying the mortgage and you will do very nicely when you sell. I think you are best holding back a few years to invest in this particular market.
I bought one of my properties for an absolute gift in 1994 and I may well cash in once it is renovated and invest the cash into a tracker.
Regards
Mick
I would advise against buying a rental property at the moment. Prices are high and will stabilise for a few years, if not drop.
Your profits on the rent are minimal and I am having to spend a fair amount of cash which will reduce my rental profits considerably.
The way to look at rental property is that someone else is paying the mortgage and you will do very nicely when you sell. I think you are best holding back a few years to invest in this particular market.
I bought one of my properties for an absolute gift in 1994 and I may well cash in once it is renovated and invest the cash into a tracker.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 25 April 2005 by Aiken Drum
A number of banks over here offer Guaranteed deposit accounts with links to a range of indeces to define the growth - and the guarantee of your original investment at maturity as a minimum. The terms vary between 3 and 6 years.
Your ready call cash could be in the form of a cash ISA, mentioned earlier, so allowing you to put your money away for a period of time.
Ready access to all your funds does really limit you in terms of returns - hence the benefit of some funds into cash ISAs and the balance into longer term investments.
As mentioned earlier, you could also look into National Savings - whilst you may need to agree to an investment term, you can use the above mentioned cash ISA for ready access funds.
Brad
Your ready call cash could be in the form of a cash ISA, mentioned earlier, so allowing you to put your money away for a period of time.
Ready access to all your funds does really limit you in terms of returns - hence the benefit of some funds into cash ISAs and the balance into longer term investments.
As mentioned earlier, you could also look into National Savings - whilst you may need to agree to an investment term, you can use the above mentioned cash ISA for ready access funds.
Brad
Posted on: 25 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
RBS are touting their wares over here now, I personally wouln't touch any British Bank again with a twenty foot bargepole, because of their sheer greed and mickey mouse operating methods, there again I doubt very much if they'd want to touch me either, innit.
Fritz Von So that's allright then
Fritz Von So that's allright then
Posted on: 25 April 2005 by Mick P
Fritz
You get tough with them, you tell them any more of this and you will take your overdraft somewhere else.
Regards
Mick
You get tough with them, you tell them any more of this and you will take your overdraft somewhere else.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 25 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Most amusing Our Mick, and if I did happen to have an overdraught still, surely the bank would be making more from me than at present, or am I wrong my old chum ?
Fritz Von It's me trackin innit
Fritz Von It's me trackin innit
Posted on: 25 April 2005 by Aiken Drum
Ere Fritz, stop taking my initals in vain - refer to them as "the Scottish Bank".
Brad
Brad
Posted on: 27 April 2005 by Phil Sparks
Paul
depending on your tax position, I'd pay off your mortgage if you have one.
when we got into the same position both my wife and I were both paying 40% tax so the return on any savings was only 60% of bugger all.
We got one of those interest offset mortgage accounts so any cash balance (i.e. savings) basically reduces the mortgage instantly. So its the same as if you receive the same rate on your savings as you are paying on your mortgage and there's no tax on it. So say your current mortage is 5.5% and you're paying 40% tax - you'd have to be getting 9.2% on your savings to equal this.
Our account with the Woolwich is really flexible - you can use all of the cash balance if you want to go on a spending spree with zero notice.
Finally there's something very comforting about making a big reduction to the mortgage - roof over your head even if you lose your job kind of thing.
Hope this helps
Phil
depending on your tax position, I'd pay off your mortgage if you have one.
when we got into the same position both my wife and I were both paying 40% tax so the return on any savings was only 60% of bugger all.
We got one of those interest offset mortgage accounts so any cash balance (i.e. savings) basically reduces the mortgage instantly. So its the same as if you receive the same rate on your savings as you are paying on your mortgage and there's no tax on it. So say your current mortage is 5.5% and you're paying 40% tax - you'd have to be getting 9.2% on your savings to equal this.
Our account with the Woolwich is really flexible - you can use all of the cash balance if you want to go on a spending spree with zero notice.
Finally there's something very comforting about making a big reduction to the mortgage - roof over your head even if you lose your job kind of thing.
Hope this helps
Phil