Fraim

Posted by: long-time-dead on 13 January 2004

Hi Guys !

I have decided to buy Fraim for my system. To begin, a base level and two "normal" levels.

Decision based on looks and the overwhelming positive views on it's sound quality.

Can anyone share any "tricks of the trade" or their experiences to ensure that it will be set-up to it's optimum ?

My room has a carpet-covered concrete floor if that helps !!
Posted on: 13 January 2004 by NB
Follow the instructions carefully. Make sure everything is nice and tight and everything is level.

Being on carpet is fine, but if your worried about damaging the carpet look at Naim chips at £15 each, thats £45 for a Fraim.

If you get everything right then the Fraim will reward you greatly.

Regards


NB
Posted on: 13 January 2004 by NB
ps congratulations on a sound investment Wink
Posted on: 13 January 2004 by Derek Wright
Surprise Surprise - look what has emerged

Fraim thread

Derek

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Posted on: 13 January 2004 by long-time-dead
Well, I think that that thread kinda covers everything !

I look forward to placing the order and setting the speed dial of my telephone to the Samaritans !

Daft question, I appreciate that the glass level on the base does not sound just as good as the other levels but is it still better than placing my power amp directly onto the wood ?
Posted on: 13 January 2004 by NB
in a word "yes"
Posted on: 13 January 2004 by Geoff P
Hi Long time
Maybe you should argue as I have suggested on the other Fraim thread that you are due a discount for putting your fraim together yourself.

If you decide to "go for it" let us know what the dealer's answer is. That should fit quite nicely with Tom's suggestion that swear words spelled in full are OK on the forum.

regards
GEOFF
Posted on: 13 January 2004 by long-time-dead
Smile Thanks !!!

And then there is the Fraim CD Rack......... will it make them sound better too ? Wink
Posted on: 13 January 2004 by Manu
Unfortunately Naim doesn't seem in a hurry to release the Fraim Cd rack.

They probably have found it doesn't make CDs sound better. Smile

Emmanuel

All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.
Posted on: 14 January 2004 by long-time-dead
Well, the deed was done today and I ordered a base and two levels in maple / silver. Can't wait for it to arrive !

I asked about installation and was instantly told that he (my local Naim dealer) would happilly deliver it and set it up - who was I to grumble..................

So the offer of me collecting him and the boxes, supplying dinner, a few beers and an evening of listening to some music before returning him back home (only a 25 minute drive - no beer for me Frown) was duly accepted !

And before anyone asks - I didn't ask for a discount - long story covered in my initial postings on the forum !
Posted on: 14 January 2004 by Jonathan Hales
Sooooo?

Having said all that, happy with the improvement?

What has it done to your system?

And by the way, forget trying to keep the tables dust free, its a losing battle.

Just run your finger round the edges, at least that way the dust is under the equipment.

Be good to hear the outcome.
Posted on: 15 January 2004 by sean
Long Time,

Martin Payne wrote out a great procedure on fraim set up after his experience of the sound going off! Having read it and followed his instructions I must say that the sound of my fraim greatly improved. The golden rule is 'not too tight' and 'everything centred in their holes'. You can always ask someone at naim for setting up advice. Martin, if you are reading this, a link to your thread, I'm sure, would be greatly appreciated.

Sean.
Posted on: 16 January 2004 by Derek Wright
Sean
Go to my previous post in this thread for a link to Martins instructions

Derek

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Posted on: 16 January 2004 by Greg Beatty
Given the arcane nature of getting a rack (any rack it seems) to perform its best, I would:

* Let the dealer do it ONLY IF I had reason to believe he or she was a guru at setting up this particular rack

* Otherwise, I would do it myself to become first-hand familiar with the rack and how it sets up. This way, when reading setup advice, it will make sense.

Just my $.02 -

- GregB

Insert Witty Signature Line Here
Posted on: 25 January 2004 by long-time-dead
Happy - Happy - Happy
My Fraim has arrived and duly set up. All pieces of advice taken totally to heart but would still like to congratulate Naim on producing a well engineered rack.



I will return to it after a couple of weeks and check it over again - just to be sure nothing has slackened off !

Sonically, wonderful. I will not go into too much detail about it as I am sure that will only spark more debate but everything seems clearer, tighter, deeper, bigger. Quite simply - Less veiled and more musical. I can't see any detriment to the sound at all Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Now saving for another level to allow me to get my turntable out of the garage !!!!
Posted on: 25 January 2004 by Charlezz
Superb...
But much, much too expensive.....
I have a sympathic Naim system , but I will never spend a moutain of money for medium wood , aluminium and glass...

Charles
Posted on: 25 January 2004 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
LTD

Tell us about those boxes.......

Regards

Mike

On the Yellow Brick Road and Happy
Posted on: 25 January 2004 by Geoff P
quote:
Superb...
But much, much too expensive.....
I have a sympathic Naim system , but I will never spend a moutain of money for medium wood , aluminium and glass...

Charles


Ah but...Charles
It may be alot of money but as Long Time says it is beautifully engineered. The machining of the cups and spikes is first class etc.

However that's just the start the improvement in sound that comes from it is what really convinces. For the price of a powersupply for one piece of Naim kit you get an upgrade of the same sort BUT that is to the performance of every bit of kit you put on it.


That has to be VFM,IMO

Geoff
Posted on: 25 January 2004 by long-time-dead
Geoff

I agree totally - it is a very expensive rack but the engineering is totally first class. I have a lamp table in the same room and it was nearly £600. It's stunning but the Fraim is better.

Sonically, it has brought a new dimension to my system and I doubt I could have made a kit upgrade of the same value to improve the sound as much.

Mike - the boxes......top to bottom

Linn IKEMI CDP
Linn WAKONDA Pre Amp (Slimline Brilliant Power Supply)
Linn 2250 Power Amp

These feed a pair of Linn NINKA speakers (maple finish).

I am delighted with the system, it makes music !

Charles - One last thing to consider about Fraim. I intend to add another two levels - one for my turntable and one for another 2250 amp to enable me to go aktive. I can do this at my leisure without leaving gaps in the rack and destroying the look.

If you doubt the value of Fraim, look at the £500 - £600 racks on the market and then look a the Fraim - the answer is easily seen !
Posted on: 26 January 2004 by Charlezz
"If you doubt the value of Fraim, look at the £500 - £600 racks on the market and then look a the Fraim - the answer is easily seen !"
Did I write , I doubt the value of Fraim???
No, I am sure it sounds great.. But for the price of the Fraim (2400£ for a four shelves rack in France!!) , I can have a rack "sur mesure" (don't know the english word for this...) in the most beautiful wood (not medium wood), the same glass shelves,....


Charles