Pops and clicks
Posted by: SimonJ on 21 January 2004
How do I stop my new Naim gear (AV2+NAP's) from popping and clicking every time the boiler turns on and off. My old Arcam gear never did it at all!!
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by Geofiz
Sounds like a new mains spur or using a spur that does not have any major appliances on it is called for. Do a forum search for "Mains Spur" and checkout the extensive writing on this topic.
It is also possible that one of the new line power regenerators that are now on the market may be of help.
Cheers
It is also possible that one of the new line power regenerators that are now on the market may be of help.
Cheers
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by SimonJ
I live in a newly renovated listed building and no mains spur work can be done now. I don't see why I did not have the problem before and now with the new kit I do.
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by Rasher
There must be a reason why this happens to your Naim gear and not the Arcam. I would ask your dealer to visit and look at your setup. It may be something simple like an earth loop or a dodgy plugboard or something. Buying Naim does not mean you have to re-wire your house.
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by Geofiz
Simon,
Are you using the same spur as the Arcam kit was plugged into? If so, then there may well be problem with the power supply of 1 or more of the Naim kit. It is also entirely possible that the current load from the new kit is greater than the current load of the Arcam it replaced, coupled with the current load required by the boiler when it switches on and off, this could combine to cause the pops and clicks. If you can use another existing spur the problem may dissappear.
I had a similar problem years ago when we moved into our current abode. The spur used initially with my Naim kit was on had the house refrigerator and microwave on it (they were in opposite ends of the house and one would have thought on different spurs but experimentation with the main fuses indicated this not the case). When the compressor of the frig would run or the microwave used, an audible pop was heard from the audio system when the appliances turned on or off. Experimenting by locating the equip on a spur with less of a load and separate from any major appliances solved the problem. Later renovations allowed for a separate circuit for the audio system to be installed.
If relocating the equip to a different spur does not solve the problem, then maybe having the equip looked at by your dealer or Naim is in order.
Good Luck
Are you using the same spur as the Arcam kit was plugged into? If so, then there may well be problem with the power supply of 1 or more of the Naim kit. It is also entirely possible that the current load from the new kit is greater than the current load of the Arcam it replaced, coupled with the current load required by the boiler when it switches on and off, this could combine to cause the pops and clicks. If you can use another existing spur the problem may dissappear.
I had a similar problem years ago when we moved into our current abode. The spur used initially with my Naim kit was on had the house refrigerator and microwave on it (they were in opposite ends of the house and one would have thought on different spurs but experimentation with the main fuses indicated this not the case). When the compressor of the frig would run or the microwave used, an audible pop was heard from the audio system when the appliances turned on or off. Experimenting by locating the equip on a spur with less of a load and separate from any major appliances solved the problem. Later renovations allowed for a separate circuit for the audio system to be installed.
If relocating the equip to a different spur does not solve the problem, then maybe having the equip looked at by your dealer or Naim is in order.
Good Luck
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by SimonJ
The same spur. I live in a big open plan appartment. There is a ring for the 2 showers, 1 for the cooker, 1 for the rest of the kitchen then everything is else is on the last ring. Besides unplugging the microwave and plugging it in there, I have no other spur to try it on.
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by greeny
quote:
1 for the cooker,
Do you have a power outlet on your cooker spur? (there is often as switched plug along with the cooker isolation switch).
If so plug an extention reel into this outlet and use it to power your Naim stuff for 1 night. Not a solution but might answer some questions
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by SimonJ
Good idea, would be much easier than shifting all the kit. Also just been to my HiFi dealer and he has lent me an Isotek Isoplug so will also try that. Only £30 and cheaper than rewiring!!
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by scottyc
Hi
I recently had a similar problem WITH my Arcam kit, but not my Linn Kit.
The good news is it was easily resolved. I contacted my boiler servicer and he came and fitted a surpressor to my boiler thermostat. Voila. Problem solved. I didn't have to pay under the terms of my contract, but i don't think it would cost that much. He said the surpressor is only a few quid, so just labour then.
Alternatively, get in touch with Doug Brady's in Warrington (google search - contact details there). He will sell you one and if you are feeling brave, you could fit it yourself.
Hope this helps,
scottyc
I recently had a similar problem WITH my Arcam kit, but not my Linn Kit.
The good news is it was easily resolved. I contacted my boiler servicer and he came and fitted a surpressor to my boiler thermostat. Voila. Problem solved. I didn't have to pay under the terms of my contract, but i don't think it would cost that much. He said the surpressor is only a few quid, so just labour then.
Alternatively, get in touch with Doug Brady's in Warrington (google search - contact details there). He will sell you one and if you are feeling brave, you could fit it yourself.
Hope this helps,
scottyc
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by Geofiz
Simon,
Was going to suggest that if you have a computer grade battery backup available to try that on the Naim equip spur. Although not the optimum, if it stops the pops & clicks then some additional filtering of the supply may be beneficial. Hopefully the Isotek Isoplug will provide the solution required. Plus the test using an extension cord (as suggested by Greeny) will go a long way to helping solve the problem.
As PR has mentioned, RF is a possibility as the switching of the boiler may be producing some RF interference.
Hopefully there will be a cost effective (and not overly sound compromising) solution for you.
Once again, Good Luck and keep us posted.
Was going to suggest that if you have a computer grade battery backup available to try that on the Naim equip spur. Although not the optimum, if it stops the pops & clicks then some additional filtering of the supply may be beneficial. Hopefully the Isotek Isoplug will provide the solution required. Plus the test using an extension cord (as suggested by Greeny) will go a long way to helping solve the problem.
As PR has mentioned, RF is a possibility as the switching of the boiler may be producing some RF interference.
Hopefully there will be a cost effective (and not overly sound compromising) solution for you.
Once again, Good Luck and keep us posted.