How are you doing in the current economic climate?
Posted by: wellyspyder on 17 April 2008
Just woes are reported. How long will this down turn last?
Did you anticipate this? Did you loose any money? Can you hold out to get it back?
Did you anticipate this? Did you loose any money? Can you hold out to get it back?
Posted on: 17 April 2008 by wellyspyder
Posted on: 17 April 2008 by Exiled Highlander
Great.... the more this happens, the more this large companies turn to companies like mine to help them reduce costs and improve value for money from their internally sourced services....one man's ceiling is another man's floor and all that....
Cheers
Jim
Cheers
Jim
Posted on: 17 April 2008 by wellyspyder
I know what you mean. Got out of the "pool" few years back. Can say saw it comming!
Was adviced not to but did it anyway, so "gut feeling" and acumen paid off.
Was adviced not to but did it anyway, so "gut feeling" and acumen paid off.
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by TomK
I just got a letter from my Mastercard provider congratulating me on the new, substantially increased credit limit they've just given me (completely unasked for). They wish me luck in taking advantage of the new freedom this gives me!!!
Crunch? What crunch?
Crunch? What crunch?

Posted on: 18 April 2008 by Phil Cork
My car tax has gone up to £400 a year.... 
Phil

Phil
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by JamieWednesday
's funny. Depite 'Credit (or rather Liquidity) Crunches', the 2nd Gulf War, 9/11, the Millenium bug (that wasn't), Russia defaulting on its debts, the ERM fiasco, house price collapses, the first Gulf War, Black Wednesday, Tuesday and Monday, the rise and decline and the rise again of 'Tiger' economies, The Thatcher years, The Unions, The Oil Crisis, The U.S. stockmarket plunges in the '70's, personal and corporate greed and mistakes a plenty throughout, The World doesn't stop turning...
UK is a bit sh*t though, if you use the FTSE 100 as a guide to economic wealth and development, then we're stuck where we were ten years ago. So hopefully you don't put all your eggs in this basket...
And yes UK tax is a p*ss take
UK is a bit sh*t though, if you use the FTSE 100 as a guide to economic wealth and development, then we're stuck where we were ten years ago. So hopefully you don't put all your eggs in this basket...
And yes UK tax is a p*ss take
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by domfjbrown
quote:we're stuck where we were ten years ago
Things can only get better - my arse! So glad I saw through Labour's cheap disguise and protest-voted Green.
quote:And yes UK tax is a p*ss take
Tell me about it!
At least if RBS go bust my debt'll get wiped out (hopefully

Posted on: 18 April 2008 by JamieWednesday
quote:Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:
Great.... the more this happens, the more this large companies turn to companies like mine to help them reduce costs and improve value for money from their internally sourced services....one man's ceiling is another man's floor and all that....
Cheers
Jim
Absolutely, those with holdings in Gold will appreciate the 'credit crunch' giving them 40 - 50% growth over the last 12 months...
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by Adam Meredith
quote:Originally posted by wellyspyder:
Did you anticipate this?
No offence intended to any fools but - only a fool could have failed so to do.
http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5801938...692922007#3692922007
Dave Spart
and possibly - http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5801938...502920117#1502920117
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by JohanR
quote:Did you anticipate this?
Yes. It's well known that in our capitalist world the economy fluctuates, from boom to recession, to boom again, to recession, and so on. A full cycle typically takes something like seven and a half year.
quote:Did you loose any money?
No. Call me boring, but I like to keep the few quid I earn and don't gamble with them on the stock market.
quote:Can you hold out to get it back?
Here's the problem. We ordinary "workers" are in the hands of the big capitalists and might loose our job because of them.
FYI. I am a big suporter of free enterprise, but can see nothing positive what so ever with the stock market gambling economy. Okey, if everybody has stock to look after, the risque of a revolution is minimized ("Tomorrow we go out and do a revolution!" "No, for god's sake, my stocks will fall to the floor!").
JohanR
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by Nigel Cavendish
Car tax up; insurance up; petrol up; alcohol up - drinking and driving has never been so expensive...
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by Diccus62
Cd's seem much cheaper than they ever were - I just buy too many but I blame it on you guys giving me great recommendations - oh and blinking MySpace which should possibly be named for me KidinAsweetShop.com 

Posted on: 18 April 2008 by JamieWednesday
quote:Originally posted by Diccus62:
Cd's seem much cheaper than they ever were - I just buy too many but I blame it on you guys giving me great recommendations - oh and blinking MySpace which should possibly be named for me KidinAsweetShop.com![]()
Yeah especially if you buy them from the U.S. at half the Sterling price! Seems I rarely pay more than six or seven quid these days and usually less, which is pretty much an LP price 20 to 25 years ago. Although vinyl LP's are twice that...at least. Funnily enough though, CD's and vinyl are of course plastic, is it the sort of plastic that's directly oil derived or is it chemistry lab type plastic? I.E. if oil is heading for $120 a barrel, should CD's be 6 times more expensive than when it was $20 a barrel just a few years ago?
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by Howlinhounddog
For goodness sake, keep your voice down.
Next thing you know c.d's will be through the roof
Next thing you know c.d's will be through the roof

Posted on: 18 April 2008 by scottyhammer
the price of diesel for my van is a f*****g disgrace !! 
when filling up in november 2005 it cost me £40.
filled up the other day and it topped £52.
thats an incredible 30% increase in under two and a half years. in any other country there would be riots....france springs to mind!

when filling up in november 2005 it cost me £40.
filled up the other day and it topped £52.
thats an incredible 30% increase in under two and a half years. in any other country there would be riots....france springs to mind!
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by manicatel
In the UK, prices, costs, taxes are going up at a far higher rate than wages are, assuming you are employed. The recent wage rises at the company who I work for have been rpi,or rpi + a fraction of a %.
For the highest earners, people in the banking & insurance world, they remain relatively unaffected. The bonuses paid out at the end of last year in "the city" broke all previous records. Now, RBS seem to be going cap-in-hand to their share holders for a few billion, & there are rumours of quite a few forced redundancies in that sector. I bet they won't be from the top end earners though, & if they are, there will be enormous severance packages, I'll bet.
Matt.
For the highest earners, people in the banking & insurance world, they remain relatively unaffected. The bonuses paid out at the end of last year in "the city" broke all previous records. Now, RBS seem to be going cap-in-hand to their share holders for a few billion, & there are rumours of quite a few forced redundancies in that sector. I bet they won't be from the top end earners though, & if they are, there will be enormous severance packages, I'll bet.
Matt.
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by rodwsmith
At the risk of sounding Parry-esque, I sold my shares in Googletoday...
Posted on: 18 April 2008 by Jim Lawson
Everything is fantastic!
Thanks for asking.
Hope you are well too.
Cheers
Jim
Thanks for asking.
Hope you are well too.
Cheers
Jim
Posted on: 21 April 2008 by Jono 13
quote:Originally posted by Phil Cork:
My car tax has gone up to £400 a year....
Phil
Start walking through the Fountain Gate and save some money

Jono (PC314)
Posted on: 21 April 2008 by Roy T
Just got a sub from the BofE, happy times are here again

Posted on: 23 April 2008 by musfed
Concerning gas prices something strange is happening overhere in The Netherlands. Prices of gas are three times as high as in the USA for example. We pay 1,50 euro's p/ltr at the moment. So you would expect people to buy cars that run cheap on petrol but I only see very large cars around me. Strange development.
Posted on: 23 April 2008 by Ewan Aye
How much is a price of bread today compared to say Saturday?
I think we are near a serious crash.
I think we are near a serious crash.
Posted on: 23 April 2008 by rodwsmith
Not sure the price of bread has gone up since Saturday where I live, although it assuredly will have gone stale, cos I live in France = proper bread.
But if it's any comfort, I appear to have sold my Google shares too soon. There's something funny - seems to me - about how the media deal with this both sides of the Atlantic. I have satellite TV here so I get the UK perspective (French telly really is pants), but I use the US stock market and follow its associated circus. It appears to me that the UK media deliberately, and often with a leer, try to paint the worst and most voyeristic possible picture of pretty much everything. From rejoicing in Terminal 5 going wrong, to sensationalising and making so much of the McCann child disappearance that someone else - admittedly probably unhinged - (allegedly) decided to fake similar to gain money/celebrity/something, - to the treatment of "Credit Crunch" (ugh). RBS staging a (even record-breakingly huge) rights issue is simply nowhere as much of a ghastly portend for economic disaster as the UK media are trying to suggest it is (and seemingly want it to be). It's possible to talk yourself into a recession/crash, and Britain appears to be trying to do just that.
On the other hand the first quarter results in the States have been, by and large, so much better (well - less bad anyway) than expected, that the US media are taking a more positive attitude, which is helping, or trying to help, propel everything in the right direction and thus limiting or lessening the damage that Bush/sub-prime/war etc etc has undoubtedly done.
It's all an incredibly fragile thing and genuinely down to the confidence of each and every investor/borrower. If everything does crash, it will be the fault of the media and the people who slavishly and unquestioningly listen to it.
Right, rant over. I'm off to cook something to eat, and uncork something lovely to drink, whilst watching The Apprentice...
But if it's any comfort, I appear to have sold my Google shares too soon. There's something funny - seems to me - about how the media deal with this both sides of the Atlantic. I have satellite TV here so I get the UK perspective (French telly really is pants), but I use the US stock market and follow its associated circus. It appears to me that the UK media deliberately, and often with a leer, try to paint the worst and most voyeristic possible picture of pretty much everything. From rejoicing in Terminal 5 going wrong, to sensationalising and making so much of the McCann child disappearance that someone else - admittedly probably unhinged - (allegedly) decided to fake similar to gain money/celebrity/something, - to the treatment of "Credit Crunch" (ugh). RBS staging a (even record-breakingly huge) rights issue is simply nowhere as much of a ghastly portend for economic disaster as the UK media are trying to suggest it is (and seemingly want it to be). It's possible to talk yourself into a recession/crash, and Britain appears to be trying to do just that.
On the other hand the first quarter results in the States have been, by and large, so much better (well - less bad anyway) than expected, that the US media are taking a more positive attitude, which is helping, or trying to help, propel everything in the right direction and thus limiting or lessening the damage that Bush/sub-prime/war etc etc has undoubtedly done.
It's all an incredibly fragile thing and genuinely down to the confidence of each and every investor/borrower. If everything does crash, it will be the fault of the media and the people who slavishly and unquestioningly listen to it.
Right, rant over. I'm off to cook something to eat, and uncork something lovely to drink, whilst watching The Apprentice...
Posted on: 23 April 2008 by 555
I too have access to US & UK media Rod, but my take is very different.
US media is saddled with keeping sponsors & advertisers sweet,
whereas in the UK there is more separation between these & TV in the commercial sector,
& of course the BBC is commercially independent.
As I see it the US media is self serving & being dishonest due to vested interests.
If there is a recession? There is a recession!
How bad it gets we will have to wait & see,
but it's due to the greed & stupidity of banks/borrowers,
hedge fund managers, etc, not the media.
My 2p, just like yours Rod.
US media is saddled with keeping sponsors & advertisers sweet,
whereas in the UK there is more separation between these & TV in the commercial sector,
& of course the BBC is commercially independent.
As I see it the US media is self serving & being dishonest due to vested interests.
If there is a recession? There is a recession!
How bad it gets we will have to wait & see,
but it's due to the greed & stupidity of banks/borrowers,
hedge fund managers, etc, not the media.
My 2p, just like yours Rod.
Posted on: 23 April 2008 by rodwsmith
Fair enough.
Perhaps I should've restricted my comments to the financial press. Certainly I'd rather see the front page of the WSJ than that of the FT these days if I was feeling glum. But I'm not trying to pick a fight with anyone for sure.
But I don't buy the commercial independence of the BBC anymore and the economies of neither the States nor the UK is technically in recession - yet at least.
The relationship of $:€ (and others) is of far greater concern to the US economy right now, but you're right about whose fault it is...
My Jean-Marc Boillot 2003 Puligny-Montrachet was particularly lovely, so maybe I'm just in an upbeat mood!
Perhaps I should've restricted my comments to the financial press. Certainly I'd rather see the front page of the WSJ than that of the FT these days if I was feeling glum. But I'm not trying to pick a fight with anyone for sure.
But I don't buy the commercial independence of the BBC anymore and the economies of neither the States nor the UK is technically in recession - yet at least.
The relationship of $:€ (and others) is of far greater concern to the US economy right now, but you're right about whose fault it is...
My Jean-Marc Boillot 2003 Puligny-Montrachet was particularly lovely, so maybe I'm just in an upbeat mood!