Good God what have I done?

Posted by: garyi on 02 August 2003

well in my Led Zep furvour, I purchased the soundtrack from the film Led Zeppelin.

Well it was all very promising, but here we are at side two and frankly this stuff is self indulgent crap of the highest order, at the moment he is wailing a bit like guns and roses (at least i can see where they came from now)

On a lighter note I did purcahse some fine Rush albums today at a quid each and something rather special.

An original Pink Floyd Animals on vinyl. This album is sans bar code and is original, and was purchased from a shop stock close down. In my opinion this record has not even been out of the sleeve. Th guy selling it was quite exceited and it was the most expensive record he had on the stall, and indeed I had ever seen on the stall (12 quid)

anyhoo I bought it and have just played it. This folks is where vinyl is just soooo much better. This album sounds sublime and will be joining my nono original Wish you were here also in pristine condtion and darkside the recent re-release.

You know the vinyl really proves just how well mastered the floyd stuff was, I really don't see why they bothered with the rematsers. well apart from the obvious money aspect.

So back to the subject matter.

was Led Zep like totally up there own arses on a live show, this disk would seem to hold that theroy true?
Posted on: 02 August 2003 by Kevin-W
Gary

Led Zep were the best live band there has ever been (even better than New Order!). Get the triple live CD (out on 6-LP vinyl in September) "How The West Was Won" or watch the double DVD for proof. They are often self-indulgent, but they had more ideas in one song than most bands have in their entire careers.

Most other bands who aim for hardness and heaviness are just wimps compared to the mmighty Zep.

The "Song Remains" film soundtrack is not very good, apart from the first three tracks on side 1 and an AWESOME version of No Quarter on Side 3. Despite its lack of goodness, I'm rather attached to it, as it was the first LP I ever bought, back in November 1976.

Most of the Floyd original vinyl albums are very well recorded and mastered (aside from the title track of "Atom Heart Mother", which sounds like it was recorded inside a bucket). The audiophile pressings of "DSOTM" (Mobile Fidelity) "WYWH" and "Collection Of Great Dance Songs" (Columbia Mastersound) are magnificent.

I also have all their albums up to and including "Final Cut" on Japanese pressings, and they sound superb.

Kevin

The best Floyd album, BTW, is "Ummagumma" but I think I will be the only person on this forum, and possibly in the entire world, who holds that opinion.
Posted on: 02 August 2003 by Rasher
No Kevin you are not alone, my faves are AHM (yes Really) Ummagumma & Obscured by Clouds
Posted on: 02 August 2003 by Jez Quigley
I love ummagumma too, as does Nick Lees I think.

I saw Plant & Page at Sheffield some years ago - awesome, but if we are nailing our flags to the mast, the greatest live band ever has to be the Grateful Dead.

"Seek first to understand, then to be understood"
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by Geofiz
There is also a very good double CD set of Zeppelin Live entitled the BBC Sessions out there. Sure it contains several versions of some songs (some purportedly the first recorded versions) but for a true Zeppelin diehard it is a must.

Cheers
Posted on: 07 August 2003 by ChrisG
I managed to sleep through most of Led Zeps three hour 1970 Bath festival set!

Zappa was cool though.

Chris
Posted on: 07 August 2003 by BLT
Curious, I think this is the third person I have heard of who has slept through a Led Zep set!
Posted on: 07 August 2003 by Kevin-W
Not so curious, I have encountered many people who have slept through a Zappa track Wink

(including myself - someone played me something from Apostrophe and Icould scarcely keep the old lids open. It really was quite monumentally dull)
Posted on: 07 August 2003 by Geofiz
Try Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar"by Zappa. Some of the most phenomenal guitar playing you will ever hear.
Posted on: 07 August 2003 by Jez Quigley
Ditto "Willie the Pimp" on Hot Rats

"Seek first to understand, then to be understood"
Posted on: 07 August 2003 by Jez Quigley
Hey I just noticed I've passed the 1000 posts mark.

"Seek first to understand, then to be understood"
Posted on: 08 August 2003 by garyi
Kevin. Apsotrophe was Zappa's kind of break into the mainstream. Certainly not his best album, but f**king good none the less. Might go and stick it on now actually.

I have heard Zappa called many things but never boring!
Posted on: 08 August 2003 by garyi
Jez, when you reach 3000, you can consider yourself a sad bastard like me!
Posted on: 08 August 2003 by Milan
I have seen Page and Plant live as well as Led Zeppelin. Also Pink Floyd! Loved them all but I have to say that Led Zeppelin took the prize! Hard to understand anyone falling asleep, unless drink or overdoing the party animal thing was involved!!!

Milan
Posted on: 12 August 2003 by Scribemole
Hi fellas
I've been intending to get hold of the new Zep album, just waiting for the price to drop a bit.
I saw Zep play their last ever UK bash at Knebworth. They were simply stunning. The Plant and Page shows in the nintees were also utterly wonderful.
I was once in Ronnie Scotts in Birmingham watching Martin Taylor and who should I find standing right next to me but Robert Plant. I was totally dumstruck I couldn't think of anything to say to him which wouldn't have made me sound pathetic. He's been a huge part of my life for so long that words could never have expressed how I felt. What a dick I am....
Posted on: 12 August 2003 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisG:
I managed to sleep through most of Led Zeps three hour 1970 Bath festival set!


Is this THE infamous Bath Blues Festival that inspired Glastonbury by any chance? If so, you lucky lucky lucky... (I wasn't born until 75 so fat chance of me being there, but I did finally get to Glasters after a decade of trying, this year - yey!).

Oh - and I slept through Richard Thompson's set at Glasters - heat exhaustion during Yes, followed by dehydration and having to drink beer 'cos the bar was out of water - oops...

I really must get some Zappa - found "Weasels...." a bit on the weird side, but "My guitar wants to kill your mama" is pretty cool. What the hell is "Prelude to a sexually aroused gas mask" about though - did Zappa do acid or something? (Or is that a REALLY stupid question - seriously - I don't know?)

When the music's over turn out the lights
Posted on: 12 August 2003 by Paul Ranson
Zappa was notorious for not tolerating drug usage. Other than coffee and cigarettes...

Paul
Posted on: 12 August 2003 by ChrisG
Yup, the very same festival, it took about 9 hours to drive there as the roads were completely jammed. I still have the official programme from the fest.

Sleeping through the Zep's set was partly due to lack of sleep in the preceeding days, the wrong mix of chemicals, and not at that time being terribly interested in their music.

I fondly remember Donovan starting his set, as we sloped off to the "local" pub all of a couple of mile as away, for several pints of scrumpy, returning in a bit of a daze to find Mr Leitch still playing!!

Come to think of it I also slept through part of Bowie's gig at the Guildford Civic Hall in 1973, but that's another story1

Shame on you sleeping through RT's set, he has to be one of the Uk's most gifted writers and guitarists. A style completely original.

Chris
Posted on: 12 August 2003 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisG:
Shame on you sleeping through RT's set, he has to be one of the Uk's most gifted writers and guitarists. A style completely original.


Touche re Zep Smile Actually, I was GUTTED - I saw the first three tracks, thought "this rocks" then realised just how dehydrated I was (I'd done, ahem, something that Love used when writing Forever Changes, to see Love doing Forever Changes AND seen the sunrise all over the previous 24 hours!) and so I sat down. And then fell asleep... Not my finest hour...

I want to see him (Richard Thompson) again - this time I'll stick to coffee and cigarettes! Well, just tea maybe - I've not smoked in 3 days which is a personal best for the last 10 years or so!

Caffiene and Nicotene are IMO 2 of the hardest drugs TO give up though...

When the music's over turn out the lights
Posted on: 12 August 2003 by ChrisG
Yeah, RT always worth catching , especially with a band. He's playing a solo gig in London on 17 Sept, "1000 Years of Music" which takes in medieval stuff and The Who, should be good.

I caught the Arthur Lee and Love "Forever Changes" set four times this year, magnificent, the DVD of the Royal Festival Hall should be good. And I didn't fall asleep at all!

Chris

"Stay off the Brown Acid"