Speed Limit Increased
Posted by: wellyspyder on 27 April 2006
That is right, speed limit raised because too many tickets were being issued , on a local stretch of road between rural and urban developement.
I'd kid you not, locals are annoyed they were not consulted about this increase!
Here, here, here.
I'd kid you not, locals are annoyed they were not consulted about this increase!
Here, here, here.
Posted on: 27 April 2006 by wellyspyder
Far too many motorist were ticketed, more so than the average stats for this stretch of tarmac, so limit increased to 80 from 70 km/h. 1 year ago the limit was reduced from 100, reason quoted being the road condition and nearby encroaching urban development. Try figuring this!
Does this mean we can change the speed limit by getting fined more? Rather expensive way of doing things, me think.
Does this mean we can change the speed limit by getting fined more? Rather expensive way of doing things, me think.
Posted on: 27 April 2006 by Steve Toy
In the UK if the revenues are insufficient they lower the limits. If, OTOH, the tickets roll out like confetti too many drivers must be speeding so the limit has to come down some more.
In the good old days they had this thing called the 85th percentile. These days the 0th percentile will do ni£ely
In the good old days they had this thing called the 85th percentile. These days the 0th percentile will do ni£ely
Posted on: 28 April 2006 by andy c
Perhaps if some drivers drove responsibly they'd get their opinions noted better - unlike the hundreds of rubber neckers on the M1 today travelling north causing an unnecessary tailback of some 5 miles, due to a 1 vehicle collision in the southbound lane, or indeed the individual in front of me using his mobile phone and nearly hitting several other vehicles!
Posted on: 28 April 2006 by Steve Toy
The solution to the problem of rubbernecking would be to plant trees in the central reservation as they do on some stretches of motorway in Belgium.
I agree rubbernecking a pain in the arse but when you are forced by law to travel below the speed at which you'd feel most comfortable and stimulated by what is in front of you, I guess it is all too easy to be distracted by what may be going on over the other side of the barrier.
In boring lessons at school you would look out of the window. It's the same at a boring 69 mph on the motorway.
I agree rubbernecking a pain in the arse but when you are forced by law to travel below the speed at which you'd feel most comfortable and stimulated by what is in front of you, I guess it is all too easy to be distracted by what may be going on over the other side of the barrier.
In boring lessons at school you would look out of the window. It's the same at a boring 69 mph on the motorway.
Posted on: 28 April 2006 by Steve Toy
I had a bit of an argument with WPC Scratchings tonight. She told me off for dropping off a fare at the entrance to the pedestrianised part of town, saying that my passenger had legs and could walk the last bit. Whilst I never actually entered the pedestrianised area she claimed that by stopping there I was obstructing access to emergency vehicles.
In other words she wanted me to stay out of her fucking way!
Rather than offer a spluttered apology I decided to argue the toss. I pointed out that she was the only police officer in town who ever had a problem with taxis dropping off and picking up (or even plying for hire) at this location and that the other officers just flashed their lights when they wanted to pass into or out of that area before giving a wave of thanks as they went. I also said that we taxi drivers would only be causing an obstruction if we failed to move out of the way of any emergency vehicle actually needing to pass.
Her face turned not to beetroot but to stone. I thought I was going to get a ticket for something, but she just said something about having a word with my boss as she drove off.
I'd like to have a word with her boss. Mine will probably tell her (politely) to fuck off as we've been working this spot for longer than the eleven years that I've driven a taxi.
In other words she wanted me to stay out of her fucking way!
Rather than offer a spluttered apology I decided to argue the toss. I pointed out that she was the only police officer in town who ever had a problem with taxis dropping off and picking up (or even plying for hire) at this location and that the other officers just flashed their lights when they wanted to pass into or out of that area before giving a wave of thanks as they went. I also said that we taxi drivers would only be causing an obstruction if we failed to move out of the way of any emergency vehicle actually needing to pass.
Her face turned not to beetroot but to stone. I thought I was going to get a ticket for something, but she just said something about having a word with my boss as she drove off.
I'd like to have a word with her boss. Mine will probably tell her (politely) to fuck off as we've been working this spot for longer than the eleven years that I've driven a taxi.
Posted on: 29 April 2006 by andy c
quote:I agree rubbernecking a pain in the arse but when you are forced by law to travel below the speed at which you'd feel most comfortable and stimulated by what is in front of you, I guess it is all too easy to be distracted by what may be going on over the other side of the barrier.
Steve - with all due respect this is a bag of crap. Most motorway crashes are caused by concentration lapses - on this I seem to recall we agree. If you can't keep relevant safe distances in front of you to be able to stop, due to congestion, the least you can do is keep your obs skills alert to what is happening in front - I witnessed more emergency braking in this way around J24 and also J27. If some drivers drove properly, and with more respect for others, the speeding issue you feel so passionatly about with stand a far more resillient chance of success.
IME more secondary crashes are caused simply because folk don't have the realisation they are in a more dangerous position, due to others rubbernecking and then having to react to not looking where they are going. This is a 'due care', in my view.
regards
andy.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by andy c
a final word on me re this topic
from another thread I've posted on the hifi room:
from another thread I've posted on the hifi room:
quote:Traffic was light - although some folk obviously don't know what an average speed over distance check is - on the M1 prior to J6 (I think) - they were looking incredulously at me sat in the nearside lane in my beast as they sailed past - no doubt the postie will clear the reason for that up!
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Mick P
Andy
I do not say this to be insulting but more in the spirit of help and counsel.
If you keep up with all of this waffle, you will become the equal of Mr Toy in nerdy boredom.
Just step back and take a long look at yourself, if you consort with someone, you become like them.
You have been warned.
Regards
Mick
I do not say this to be insulting but more in the spirit of help and counsel.
If you keep up with all of this waffle, you will become the equal of Mr Toy in nerdy boredom.
Just step back and take a long look at yourself, if you consort with someone, you become like them.
You have been warned.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by andy c
Mick,
duly noted.
I was also, like you (I think) taught that ' politeness costs nothing and gains everything'.
Ironically, you posted on what I said, but didn't say you agreed or not - your choice of course.
Oh, and you will also note I respond to such threads, usually, my above obs when travelling to JonR's being an exception to this rule.
andy c!
duly noted.
I was also, like you (I think) taught that ' politeness costs nothing and gains everything'.
Ironically, you posted on what I said, but didn't say you agreed or not - your choice of course.
Oh, and you will also note I respond to such threads, usually, my above obs when travelling to JonR's being an exception to this rule.
andy c!
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Mick P
Andy
Whether I agree with your argument or not is irrelevant. The point I was making (for your own good) is that you could find yourself approaching Mr Toy in the dullness / ineffectiveness stakes.
Although intelligent, he is a totally lost cause and beyond redemption. He is dull, ineffective, without influence and generally useless whereas you are not........yet
Like I said, you have been warned.
Regards
Mick
Whether I agree with your argument or not is irrelevant. The point I was making (for your own good) is that you could find yourself approaching Mr Toy in the dullness / ineffectiveness stakes.
Although intelligent, he is a totally lost cause and beyond redemption. He is dull, ineffective, without influence and generally useless whereas you are not........yet
Like I said, you have been warned.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by andy c
Mick,
The word 'advised' would have had a more balanced impact. 'Warned' implies a threat.
Thanks for the advice, I'll bear it in mind.
If you think I don't think about what I type before doing so...
regards
Andy.
The word 'advised' would have had a more balanced impact. 'Warned' implies a threat.
Thanks for the advice, I'll bear it in mind.
If you think I don't think about what I type before doing so...
regards
Andy.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by garyi
I think that arguments between a cop and a cabby have rated amongst the most boring on the web. Which is no mean achievement.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by u5227470736789439
Gary! Its's affection really, I think; and nice that they can show it in public rather than hide it away.
Fredrik
Fredrik
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
quote:Originally posted by wellyspyder:
That is right, speed limit raised because too many tickets were being issued
A simple trick.
Put power limiter in cars.
Less crashes, more saved oil, less pollution.
But today true men like to "broom broom"!
And governement and oil tycoon like to "cash cash".
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by wellyspyder
quote:Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:quote:Originally posted by wellyspyder:
That is right, speed limit raised because too many tickets were being issued
A simple trick.
Put power limiter in cars.
Less crashes, more saved oil, less pollution.
But today true men like to "broom broom"!
And governement and oil tycoon like to "cash cash".
Power limiter? Explain how you plan to do this?
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
It's easy.
Governement should oblige the companies that produce cars to change the injection electronics boards putting a limit to HPs.
Or oblige them to produce low HPs cars.
There are car electricians that can raise the power of your car simply changing an electronic board in the electronic manager of the engine.
Governement should oblige the companies that produce cars to change the injection electronics boards putting a limit to HPs.
Or oblige them to produce low HPs cars.
There are car electricians that can raise the power of your car simply changing an electronic board in the electronic manager of the engine.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
If they can erase it i think they can lower it as well.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by wellyspyder
quote:Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
If they can erase it i think they can lower it as well.
I mean enforcement and practicality?
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
Just think.
All cars at 60 klm per hour (italian unit of measurement).
Less police, less money spent on cameras, lasers and all burocracy.
Less oil wasted and so on.......................
All cars at 60 klm per hour (italian unit of measurement).
Less police, less money spent on cameras, lasers and all burocracy.
Less oil wasted and so on.......................
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
quote:Originally posted by wellyspyder:
I mean enforcement and practicality?
Do you want to know how?
When they assemble the cars of course.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by wellyspyder
quote:Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:quote:Originally posted by wellyspyder:
I mean enforcement and practicality?
Do you want to know how?
When they assemble the cars of course.
Do you mean "speed limiter" rather than HP per se? Sounds like you are advocating a limit on speed rather than power? In any case it will be impractical.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
Why?
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by wellyspyder
quote:Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
Why?
Back track a little. I am not sure what you are advocating, a limit on power or speed?
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
I think that if you work on power you can produce less fast cars and what you don't invest in developing more powefull engines you can spend on security.
Active or passive.
Active or passive.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by wellyspyder
quote:Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
I think that if you work on power you can produce less fast cars and what you don't invest in developing more powefull engines you can spend on security.
Active or passive.
By security, you really mean safety, right? If so, no arguments at all.
However with regards to power limitation, how do you propose to get the motorist to accept your proposal (to decrease power, and to what level do you propose they should be) This is what I am trying to get at. Afterall if they do not accept it, then your idea is just .....an idea! Good luck.