Neal Ferrograph
Posted by: John Bailey on 25 March 2003
I was just wondering if anybody knew anything about the cassette decks this company manufactured in the late 70's early 80's.
Is anyone still using them or knows where to get them serviced.
John.
Is anyone still using them or knows where to get them serviced.
John.
Posted on: 03 April 2003 by MarkEJ
I seem to remember seeing an interview with JV (possibly in one of those "pocket" format mags) from around 1984-ish, by Ken Kessler.
In it, JV stated that the Naim cassette deck would "shortly be in production", and the transport to be used was made by Papst. The cassette transport mentioned was "designed for commercial use, such as hotel answering machines" and was apparently very robust.
Somewhere in Salisbury, there is probably at least one seriously wicked, chrome-bumpered cassette deck...
Best;
Mark
In it, JV stated that the Naim cassette deck would "shortly be in production", and the transport to be used was made by Papst. The cassette transport mentioned was "designed for commercial use, such as hotel answering machines" and was apparently very robust.
Somewhere in Salisbury, there is probably at least one seriously wicked, chrome-bumpered cassette deck...
Best;
Mark
Posted on: 03 April 2003 by John Bailey
Many thanks for the replies, most interesting.
I was born and brought up just outside Tyneside, I was 12 years old when the factory closed in 1981 and the local BBC news did an article on it which continues to stick in my mind along with the unemployment that blighted the people of that area at the time.
Anyway, a combination of Geordie Pride and Hifi lunacy made me search out one of these machines and I recently acquired (at low cost) a Model 302. Apart from the odd mark on the side of the case it's in almost mint condition - very clean.
It is still possible to have them repaired and serviced I have since found - the original UK distributor is still going and mine is going in for a service on Saturday. Spent a good 20 minutes on the phone to him, a real enthusiast who condsiders these machines to be 'old friends'.
Build is battleship quality - quite unlike anything I have seen on a cassette deck and more like a piece of lab equipment, in fact a lab is where mine spent most of it's life.
I have been looking for a small project to learn how to make a web site so will be doing one based on the Neal. If anybody has any information that they could let me have for scanning in or send electronically then I would be very grateful.
One thread I did locate on the Naim forum indicated that JV was very keen on them. The note about the mechanism being made by Papst is most interesting as if you open up the 302 all the (3) motors are made by this company. My understanding is that almost all the mechanical parts for the deck were manufactured at Simonside but I wonder if the the Naim deck was going to be based on the Neal mech... any comments Naim?
For those that need to know what a late model Neal (in this case an AV version Model 330) looks like then I found this on the web:
[This message was edited by John Bailey on THURSDAY 03 April 2003 at 20:45.]
I was born and brought up just outside Tyneside, I was 12 years old when the factory closed in 1981 and the local BBC news did an article on it which continues to stick in my mind along with the unemployment that blighted the people of that area at the time.
Anyway, a combination of Geordie Pride and Hifi lunacy made me search out one of these machines and I recently acquired (at low cost) a Model 302. Apart from the odd mark on the side of the case it's in almost mint condition - very clean.
It is still possible to have them repaired and serviced I have since found - the original UK distributor is still going and mine is going in for a service on Saturday. Spent a good 20 minutes on the phone to him, a real enthusiast who condsiders these machines to be 'old friends'.
Build is battleship quality - quite unlike anything I have seen on a cassette deck and more like a piece of lab equipment, in fact a lab is where mine spent most of it's life.
I have been looking for a small project to learn how to make a web site so will be doing one based on the Neal. If anybody has any information that they could let me have for scanning in or send electronically then I would be very grateful.
One thread I did locate on the Naim forum indicated that JV was very keen on them. The note about the mechanism being made by Papst is most interesting as if you open up the 302 all the (3) motors are made by this company. My understanding is that almost all the mechanical parts for the deck were manufactured at Simonside but I wonder if the the Naim deck was going to be based on the Neal mech... any comments Naim?
For those that need to know what a late model Neal (in this case an AV version Model 330) looks like then I found this on the web:
[This message was edited by John Bailey on THURSDAY 03 April 2003 at 20:45.]
Posted on: 03 April 2003 by JohanR
I love HiFi history!
Dave wrote:
"My 1981 issue of 'Hi-Fi Choice' Cassette Decks (in the days when this was a small book - not a magazine) shows the Neal 302 cost £375 and the Neal 312 was £400.
To give you an idea of what this sum of money represented I also have a 1981 'Hi-Fi Choice' Turntables. The Linn Sondek LP12 was £340 and the Linn Ittok LV11 was £230."
That price didn't stop people buying Nac:s! In those days a cassette deck was considered a serious part of the HiFi and most of the time costed considerably more than the source. The cassette deck was important and some dealers even managed to charge extra to tune it!
I had a Nac. 480 in the early 1980:s, nearly never used it, finally figured that out and sold it off.
JohanR
Dave wrote:
"My 1981 issue of 'Hi-Fi Choice' Cassette Decks (in the days when this was a small book - not a magazine) shows the Neal 302 cost £375 and the Neal 312 was £400.
To give you an idea of what this sum of money represented I also have a 1981 'Hi-Fi Choice' Turntables. The Linn Sondek LP12 was £340 and the Linn Ittok LV11 was £230."
That price didn't stop people buying Nac:s! In those days a cassette deck was considered a serious part of the HiFi and most of the time costed considerably more than the source. The cassette deck was important and some dealers even managed to charge extra to tune it!
I had a Nac. 480 in the early 1980:s, nearly never used it, finally figured that out and sold it off.
JohanR
Posted on: 05 May 2003 by John Bailey
Mike Solomons is the man you need and very friendly and helpful he is too.
The contact details are:
London Sound
389(B) Alexandra Avenue
Harrow
HA2 9EF
Tel: 020 8868 9222
email: londonsound@msn.com
He can supply spares or full service if required.
All the best,
John.
The contact details are:
London Sound
389(B) Alexandra Avenue
Harrow
HA2 9EF
Tel: 020 8868 9222
email: londonsound@msn.com
He can supply spares or full service if required.
All the best,
John.