Eagles Latest Single.

VERY weak indeed - just heard it on TOTP.

I actually like some of the earlier stuff, which I guess is tantamount to admitting to liking Dire Straits these days

Andy.

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I actually like some of the earlier stuff, which I guess is tantamount to admitting to liking Dire Straits these days

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How unfair on Dire Straits

(More than) Slightly off topic, but I was hoping someone could explain to me the embarassment that apparently accompanies liking Dire Straits (or fill in your choice of "band that used to be hot").

Certain bands are clearly in the guilty pleasures realm. But I'm not understanding why one should toss out their Dire Straits (Eagles, Pink Floyd, etc.) simply because it's no longer 1981 (or '78 or '74).

I am keen on getting this, if anyone would care to venture an explanation. I have tons of old jazz and classical whose era is clearly past. Might be time to toss the whole lot.

No need to do that.

I think the reason people don't like Dire Straights today and indeed the Eagles is because they are crap.

You mean the people I presume

Ahh. Then there's the solution. I always hoped there'd be a self-appointed arbiter of taste in all things musical who'd come along and save me from myself. I feel so fortunate.

Garyi, if you'd be so kind as to go through my music collection and let me know what's crap, I'd be ever so grateful.

Its physics innit ? For every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction. After extreme adulation comes extreme derision.

Minky -

If that's the case, I suspect Garyi is heading for a period of extreme self-derision soon...

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I think the reason people don't like Dire Straights today and indeed the Eagles is because they are crap.

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I can assure you there were a great number of people (including many critics) back in the early-mid seventies who would have disagreed most strongly with you (myself included). Sadly they dragged things on a couple of years after the spark was gone. I've not heard this new thing but I suspect the reunion is ill judged although I thought Hell Freezes Over was a beautiful album.

Just how long are they going to drag this "farewell" out???

-- woody

The Eagles newest single, "Hole In The World" started to bore itself into my subconscious a few months ago when I started to hear it on my clock radio as I was waking up. It is one of those songs with a magical hook that just won't let you return to thoughts of normal importance, food, work, humans, stereo or otherwise. Finally, I investigated the matter, thinking they had a new album I had up to that point ignored. It turns out it is only available currently as a single, but may fortell the arrival some time next year of A TOTALLY NEW EAGLES RECORDING THAT WILL REQUIRE THEM TO TOUR INCESSANTLY, AND IMPLICITLY IGNORE THEIR PREVIOUS PROMISES OF RETIREMENT.

I have to confess that I like the song, as they do have a way with harmony vocals, and it is clearly the best thing I hear on my clock radio on Sunday mornings. I guess that makes me just another aging yuppie with no interest in seeking out exciting new music...In my defense I will point out, somewhat meekly, that I really like the new Steely Dan recording.

It's all too easy for later recordings by once respected artists to retrospectively waft a veil of contaminating crap over earlier triumphs. We might want them to gracefully accept the pipe & slippers, but they quite understandably like the financial rewards that hanging in there can bring. We'd all probably do the same, I think.

throb

Yea but I would lose the mullet.

Hell Freezes over was excelent, if a little too "round earth."

Hotel California is a classic though. My favourites are "pretty maids all in a row," and "the last resort" - this track encapsulates the failure of the American Dream and Frontier Spirit in just 11 minutes.



Regards,

Steve.

Nick, - well of course, you're right - all a bit bland for me, although I did like [and still do] the first DS single and the Eagles bit that was used in Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It was the general principle I was wittering about.

Did it ever happen to classical composers I wonder?['pon my word sir, Mr Handel's airs have become so repetative of late my scores will soon be at Auction etc.]

throb

“I actually like some of the earlier stuff, which I guess is tantamount to admitting to liking Dire Straits these days”

Yeah I have to admit to having a few Eagles and DS albums tucked away somewhere...

I got to know about Joe Walsh through listening to the Eagles, so that led me to collect most of his albums and I’ll still listen to Sultans of Swing the odd time and be reminded of just how great a guitar player Mark Knopfler is.

Mr Tibbs

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Originally posted by jayd:
But I'm not understanding why one should toss out their Dire Straits (Eagles, Pink Floyd, etc.) simply because it's no longer 1981 (or '78 or '74).

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I couldn't agree with you less. Plenty of bands are still very listenable _ Free, Led Zep (big this year), Floyd (still after nothing for 10 years), Little Feat, MC5 (again big revival of interest this year), ...Dire Straits? Nah..they were never in the same class. So maybe the Eagles have overstayed their welcome, but they are still listenable - maybe not the recent stuff, though I've not heard it. Joe Walsh is one of my all time heroes though, so I'm biased.
You wouldn't be chucking out Sophia Loren, Audrey Hepburn, Jane Birkin - just 'cos you've noticed what Sam Fox really looked like!

Ahh, but listenability is in the ear of the listener, yes?

As a guitarist myself, I am still very much impressed with Mark Knopfler's DS work. His attack, his tone, his constant attention to the notes he plays and the ones he doesn't... beyond that, I like the songs. I like the dry heat of Six-Blade Knife, I like slightly frantic feel of Down to the Waterline and Lady Writer, I like the groove of In the Gallery. Etc.

Joe Walsh was at his best as an Eagle, and they were at their best when he joined up. But solo Joe albums like "The Confessor" and "Got Any Gum?", lyrics such as "We took some naps... we shot some craps... she broke my heart... I broke my leg..." and the ever memorable "picking up the dog doo, hope that it's hard, we're just ordinary average guys..." well, the genius of such gems was utterly over my head, I guess. I liked some of the James Gang stuff though.

Never was a Samantha Fox fan, btw.

Jay

Very well said Jay. There is still a bit of life left in ole Joe though. Have a listen to the new Warren Zevon if you don't believe me.