Unable to rip some CDs

Posted by: gmischol on 29 September 2009

So, after many night's work more or less all CDs are ripped and saved on a NAS on my Uniti. It's just great to listen to music this way and with PlugPlayer it is quite convenient to control the Uniti with my iPhone.
But out of about 300 CD's there are maybe 30 which I'm unable to accurately rip. Neither Rip or XLD on Mac nor EAC on Windows are able to rip it. I think those CD's just have to many faults. Any solution other than buying new copies of these CD's?

Gaudenz
Posted on: 30 September 2009 by Exiled Highlander
Do these CD's play on a standard CD player? Have you tried cleaning them? It may sound like heresy but I have recovered some CD's through the use of warm water, a touch of detergent, washing them with a very soft cloth and then rinsing them in clean water, wiping with another dry soft cloth and then finally drying them with a hair dryer on a low to moderate heat. If they don't play then what do you have to lose?

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 30 September 2009 by Paul Hannan
Hi

What app are you using to control the Uniti from your iPhone? Songbird?
Posted on: 30 September 2009 by Aleg
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Hannan:
Hi

What app are you using to control the Uniti from your iPhone? Songbird?


He said he used plugplayer:

quote:
and with PlugPlayer it is quite convenient to control the Uniti with my iPhone

Look here for more information and it is available from appstore

-
aleg
Posted on: 30 September 2009 by DaveBk
quote:
Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:
Do these CD's play on a standard CD player? Have you tried cleaning them? It may sound like heresy but I have recovered some CD's through the use of warm water, a touch of detergent, washing them with a very soft cloth and then rinsing them in clean water, wiping with another dry soft cloth and then finally drying them with a hair dryer on a low to moderate heat. If they don't play then what do you have to lose?

Cheers

Jim


I've even been more brutal and taken a tin of metal polish (Brasso) to them to polish out scratches. It works!
Posted on: 30 September 2009 by Steve Bull
Might also be worth seeing if a friend can copy them and burn you a fresh disc that will work in yours - I've helped out a couple of friends in that fashion, sometimes they just seem to work in a different PC/Mac.
Posted on: 30 September 2009 by Klout10
Could it be that some sort of "copy protection" is spoiling your rips??

Regards,
Michel
Posted on: 06 October 2009 by luxen2
Get a Plextor drive!!!!

Big Grin
Posted on: 07 October 2009 by Gary S.
Gaudenz

I think some Cds are just impossible to rip. I'm surprised though at your 10% unsuccessful rate, I would expect better. I've ripped over 600 CDs and only had a handfull that I've had problems with. With some I have had success just by trying different computers or others by trying different ripping software (I generally use DBPoweramp), but some just won't rip regardless of what you try.

I recently tried ripping Athlete's Black Swan which I can't get to rip, it seems to have avery odd file structure - has anybody else managed to rip this?

Gary
Posted on: 07 October 2009 by pcstockton
Very rarely CD makers modify the "Red Book Spec" for some reason or another. This results in not being able to be played on some CDPs, and also not being able to be ripped (easily).

I dont know how or why it happens but it does. Less than .01% of all of my CDs, failed to rip regardless of condition. Most likely due to being "out of spec". Not surprising that most were imported.

That being said, I have had dozens upon dozens of 20 year old CDs that are damaged beyond belief. All of those had to be ripped in iTunes or Foobar, both in Burst mode.

-patrick
Posted on: 12 October 2009 by Bruce Woodhouse
I had 4 out of about 450 it would not rip when I first loaded up my HDX. I made a copy of each on my PC and found that the copy ripped fine. No idea why this should work-but it did!

Bruce
Posted on: 13 October 2009 by pcstockton
Bruce,

May I ask what program and settings you used for the "PC Rips"?

thanks,
patrick
Posted on: 14 October 2009 by Bruce Woodhouse
quote:
Originally posted by pcstockton:
Bruce,

May I ask what program and settings you used for the "PC Rips"?

thanks,
patrick


You can ask!

I just used the Roxio CD copy program on my PC without any changes to the default setup. I can probably look a bit more carefully into the details if you tell me what to look for specifically.

Bruce
Posted on: 16 October 2009 by pcstockton
Bruce,

Thats why it worked!!! HDX uses really nice error correction and it if encounters serious damage it is likely to give up entirely.

The Roxio software undoubtedly does a burst-mode rip which glances right over any problems. Of course the rip is probably full of errors, but most likely not terribly audible. Maybe a click or pop somewhere.

People always say things such as, "if a CD is severely damaged I will use EAC, otherwise iTunes is fine."

I find this strange because it is exactly the other way around.
Posted on: 17 October 2009 by gmischol
So to report back of my experiences:

I finally managed to rip most of my CDs. Some just with disabling accurate rip. One single CDs is just impossible to rip. It's Troubadour by J.J. Cale, and ironically it's the track Cocaine where my mac alwyays hangs (maybe to strong stuff Cool)
It's even impossible to copy the tracks from the CD to the finder. So I think this one is really damaged (although there is nothing visible from the disc itself and it plays without problems).
Posted on: 20 October 2009 by AV@naim
quote:
Originally posted by pcstockton:
Very rarely CD makers modify the "Red Book Spec" for some reason or another.


I would disagree, it's fairly common these days. Any disc containing:

-hybrid data (PC/audio)
-any disc more than 79.8 minutes
-any copy protected disc
-dualdisc
Posted on: 20 October 2009 by pcstockton
AV@naim,

Perhaps it is common for the types of music you listen to, and the record labels they are signed to.

Not for me... I have tons of discs with "PC Data" that ripped without any issue. I cant think of one that is "over time". Copy protection????? I would need to check if the few that never ripped in either EAC or Foobar had copy protection. Though I suspect EAC can handle this easily.

Maybe the "top 40" crap has issues.