Who will you vote for.

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I came out as a Tory.

Thats Ok if You actually like Howard...

andy c!

Andy

I doubt if anyone actually likes either Blair or Howard. I think Howard is basically ruthless and has the ability to make decisions, no matter how tough or difficult. I regard that as an asset.

His problem is that the public do not seem to like him much. I think Anne Widdecombe did him a lot of damage from which he is unlikely to recover. The something of the night image is not doing him much good at all.

Regards

Mick

No surprise there then, Mick.

I came out:

Conservative: +45
UK Indies: +24
Greens: +15
Labour: -16
Lib Dems: -34

No suprises for me either

LD + 43
Green +26
L -24
C -31

Bruce (lentil chewing liberal)

Bruce

I think you are in for a disappointment.

The Liberals seem to have a lack lustre campaign this election. Kennedy is just not pushing the buttons.

I still think New Labour will win with a majority of 80/90 but also that the Tories will take some of the Liberals votes whose thunder is being partially stolen by the Greens who seem to be more electorate friendly this time.

Regards

Mick......still dreaming of another Maggie

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Mick......still dreaming of another Maggie

Compared to the Blair government that'd be a swing to the left...

Mick

I live in one of the safest Cons seats in Britain, I'm sure I'm in for a disappointment!

I'm also really not certain that the 'we are the nice and friendly Lib Dems' is going to work. The other two parties are deliberately ignoring the LD's and that approach is keeping them off the agenda. The best I'll hope is that Labour will nick some of their better ideas.

...and FWIW my incumbent MP (David Curry) is a thoroughly liked and well regarded bloke who appears to do a great deal for the area and have little personal ambition. What on earth he is doing in the Conservative party beats me!

Lab majority 100 is my pick, and more flux of seats on local issues than national.

According to yesterdays Guardian, Michael Howard (Maj; 5,907, Labour; 9,260), David Davies (Maj; 1,903, Labour; 6,898) and Oliver Letwin (Maj: 1,414, Labour; 6,733) are all holding small majorities that could easily be overtaken if Labour in their constituencies tactically vote Lib Dem.

Although 10,000 disgruntled students could push Charles Clarke out in Norwich (Maj; 8,816)

Could be interesting!

Regards

Stephen

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Originally posted by Steve G:

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Mick......still dreaming of another Maggie

Compared to the Blair government that'd be a swing to the left...

I hate these kind of 'Ya Ya' statements.

While it's true that Blair has followed some seemingly right-wing-like policies (War in Iraq, Top-up fees, home detention etc), the Labour government has also followed a staunchly socialist agenda in other areas.

Thatcher would not have brought in Investment in education (especially higher) and hospitals, public transport, non-carbon energy policies, independent bank of england, minimum wage, european social chapter and freedom of information act, increased national insurance (remember; a health and pensions tax), hunting ban, reform of the lords and the judiciary and so on.

Of course, many of these are flawed or are just starting to impact (7 years to train a doctor before improvements are felt, fixing 20 years of neglect on the railways etc.), but to state that Blair's goverernment is in any way right-wing of Thatcher's is lazy and just plain wrong.

Regards

Stephen

Stephen,

I think the term is 'yah-boo' but never mind!

Mick,

Your preference is no surprise - in any case, I thought you were a paid up member of the Conservative party!

Regards,

Jon

I got,

45 Con
-28 Lab
-20 LD
48 UKIP
23 Green

Paul

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Originally posted by Steve G:
Compared to the Blair government that'd be a swing to the left...

Medium term memory a bit suspect this morning? To quote only one of many examples, we were one election away from an officially two tier NHS until Labour got in and rescued it. NHS still not working? Well, it was royally fucked over for 18 years, it might take that long to fix it. NHS under Labour just the old model with different labels (as has sometimes been claimed)? Read the White Papers. It's the most radical change since 1948 and so left of what the Tories did with it that it's off the radar. Similarities are mostly coincidence. It's lazy to focus on them without looking at the big picture.

I could go on but I'm already boring myself....

The election situation down my way is clear cut. Lib Dems have it by the slimmest majority with the Tories just waiting to snatch it back. Labour are no where. So where disaffectad labour voters go (if they vote) will have a profound effect. If the Lib Dem vote stays about the same, 150 extra Tory votes will do the trick. From my POV this would be a disaster, but that's democracy. The turn out here has been high for the last two elections and is likely to be so this time - there's too much at stake.

Cheers

Harry

+10 Lab
-16 Con
+51 LD
-07 UKIP
+01 Green

*faints*

Suffice it to say, I wouldn't dream of voting Lib Dem...

Lab +15
Con -83
Lib Dem +90
UKI -12
Green +27

Yeah. Seems about right.

I'm not that interested in the UK wide breakdown as Labour will continue with a large majority.

I'm more interested in how the Scottish seats shakedown after the boundary changes. In the past Labour got nearly 80% of the seats from 43% of the vote and I'd like to see (but am not expecting) something fairer.

The result

Lab -19
Con +51
Lib -44
UKIP +16
Green +3

No surprise

My results are:-

Lab: -37
Con: -15
Lib/Dem: +32
UKIP: +10
Green +38

Hmmm....Green.......

Jon

You sound like a Lib Dem/Greeny fence sitter. Please be advised that sitting on the fence usually reults in a sore rectum.

Regards

Mick

LAB + 11
CON +22
LD -8
UKIP +25
GRN +9

This is quite worrying as I normally vote LD

How I got +25 on UKIP when I voted for signing the Europe Constitution and joining the Euro I don't know!!??

I'm a liberal democrat - no surprises. Didn't Charles Kennedy look/perform like sh*t on the TV last night - Fatherhood!!!!!
Rich.

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Jon

You sound like a Lib Dem/Greeny fence sitter. Please be advised that sitting on the fence usually reults in a sore rectum.

Regards

Mick

I read you loud and clear, Mick.

Looks like I'll be voting Lib Dem!!

Greeny

Welcome to the real world........we all become Tories as we get older and wiser.

Regards

Mick

But aren't we supposed to have an ageing population, Mick? And if so how come Labour's still so popular??

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Greeny

Welcome to the real world........we all become Tories as we get older and wiser.

Regards

Mick

No we don't actually. The older I get the less right my views become - but hopefully I've got a lot of getting older to do, so who knows? I expect that as long as my memory functions correctly I will stay left.

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Originally posted by HTK:

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Greeny

Welcome to the real world........we all become Tories as we get older and wiser.

Regards

Mick

No we don't actually. The older I get the less right my views become - but hopefully I've got a lot of getting older to do, so who knows? I expect that as long as my memory functions correctly I will stay left.

Yes, well as that very point was aired by Our Mick only weeks ago, I would say many memories are out of sinc, innit.

Fritz Von All aboard the Skylark