Beautiful Minds On This Forum !!!

Posted by: Berlin Fritz on 28 February 2005

Yes; Beautiful minds ! I wonder how many of them there are on this particular forum ? I've just had the pleasure of watching "A beautiful mind" for the very first time over breakfast, which as most of you no doubt know is the biography of the mathematician & Nobel prize winner John Forbes Nash!
As Enjoyable and interesting as it was, one small aspect did strike me as particularly hard, and wether it was put there for 'Entertainment' purposes, ie, artistic licence, or it actually portrayed a real event I know not ? but I was still rather taken aback I must say. A small scene, that I suppose most wouldn't even think about as relevent, when the now quite ill Professor Nash is hobbling home from a days work at Stanford, and some 'students' behind him mimicked and made fun of his shuffle and gait. As far as I know Stanford is considered probably the finest University in the world, and one would imagine that barring the few rich (no hoper brats) to get a place there takes considerable ability and maturity ? We are only talking about a time period of less than 10 years from today here, so that it's almost actual so to speak ?
Without getting too bogged down with how nasty human nature can be, and what kids get up to, etc, etc, I somehow think that if say some British 'students' took the piss out of Steven Hawking and his chair etc, behind his back, they wouldn't be 'studying' there for much longer ? So wether it's the charade of a TV trial for Michael Jackson, or the piss taking of a very sick person by the highly talented fortunate creme de la creme of any particular modern society, I see no difference personally, if it's not checked, and therefore officially sanctioned by the powers that want to be, but don't act, or try to take PC to mind-blowingly stupid unenforcable levels, that result in a less desirable climate than before !



Fritz Von How sad really innit Big Grin
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by Deane F
Its the activists that have changed the face of society for the better. While the world might be a crappier place in many respects, it is generally true to say that for many classes of people more choice is available.
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by 7V
I think we've moved a little forward in many areas - for example women's rights and race issues but we've still got a long, long way to go. Yes, it is sad.

Does anyone remember the Star-Trek episode where Captain Kirk talks about an aversion to ugliness being the last remaining human prejudice?

Regards
Steve M
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by Lomo
Does anyone on this forum have a disability?
I was wondering what is better. People making a fuss of you or people looking the otherway and pretending you just don't exist.
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Deane F
quote:
Originally posted by Lomo:
Does anyone on this forum have a disability?
I was wondering what is better. People making a fuss of you or people looking the otherway and pretending you just don't exist.


Lomo

You posit only two choices - "making a fuss.." or "looking the other way.."

I lack imagination I guess. It seems one is no "better" than the other.

When you see a person with an obvious disability which one do you choose?

Deane
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Berlin Fritz
If it's somebody I don't know I just ignore them, as I would anybody else, though the point of my original post was that if those future leaders couldn't act in a Civilised way (male & Female) how can anybody else be expected to ?



Fritz Von Building Bridges Smile
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Aric
Fritz,

I am quite sure that Professor Nash worked at Princeton, not Stanford.

As such, several years ago when I was a junior or senior at the University here, I was walking along between the campus buildings in a fairly tight crowd. The University was having some work done to one of the libraries and consequently the construction crew had various ropes and dividers placed around the site.

The flow of traffic was such that people were fairly pressed up against each other with very little room to navigate. About this time several professors came jogging into view - a lunch ritual I am quite sure - moving in the opposite direction as I.

The profs were moving at such a clip that they had to move off of the concrete walkways in order to bypass the traffic. In a scene that happened remarkably fast, the prof who was farthest from the concrete path failed to see a hanging metal rope that was about knee level.

Unfortunately you can imagine what occurred next. The prof literally flipped over the rope, landing with a bone-jarring thud. To add injury to insult the throng of people proceeded to laugh at him. His friend helped him up and it was obvious from thirty feet back that he had suffered a nasty cut to his leg. Still the laughter persisted.

I felt quite disgusted as the majority, perhaps all, of those laughing were my age ~ 20. Upon further observation, almost all of the leering laughers were girls. I was quite shocked really. Society tells us that boys are the jackasses amongst the two sexes, but at least in this situation WE had the good decency to feel pity and silently wished the man well.

I have no doubt that Nash probably was ridiculed by students on campus. And the predominant culprits might have been 18 and 19 year old boys. But don't for a second think that there could not have been girls joining the derisive catcalls.

Aric
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Thanks for that.


Fritz Von Educatin Mutton Big Grin

N.B. Initially though if I witnessed the same thing from a distance and it seemed funny and harmless at the time, on a nice sunny day, I think I'd be inclined to laugh as well, but would soon change if I saw that it was serious. The japing over a known schitzophnenic genius on campus by 'students' of any age/gender I find sick and unforgivable, unless they wrere all flying on acid, drunk or stoned, and realised the errors of their ways later! Big Grin
Posted on: 02 March 2005 by Lomo
Well, by fuss, I think at least acknowledging you are there and assisting when necessary . For instance in a supermarket with getting goods down from a top shelf and the like. Working there that went with the job and I got to know many disabled people through this.
Looking the other way is done because a good many of us are embarrassed by people with a disability and even more so with the mentally handicapped.
how does this all seem to the person with the disability; we all know a broken arm or leg will get better but to be faced with the fact that everyday when we get up we must deal with the same situation must at times be intolerable.
The third way is to accept the disabled as normal members of the community who require the same leval of independance and respect that we wish be given to ourselves.
Posted on: 02 March 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Lomo me old China, I refer not only to disabled folk mate, but to people that are different from the crowd generally.


Fritz Von Cheers and it's bloody freezin here Smile


Lovely to see Charlie Boy getting all those kisses down Perth way !
Posted on: 03 March 2005 by Berlin Fritz
I've just tanned a rake of chips with egg, innit. For those not in the know, 'egg & chips' as they are commonly known, are fried to buggery and normally eaten for breakfast (bigfat in Thailand ) by heavily hungover mid#life crisis ridden drunkards.
"Breaking an egg" is an old German term (probably Yiddish in origin) which menas 'yer cannie crack it proper like yer bampot', cos you's still kippin in ye scratcher, innit.


Fritz Von All translations and complaints to Holyrood (Wibbly Wobbly) Hoose, Norf ov der border Cool
Posted on: 03 March 2005 by Lomo
Charlie boy is the guest of honour at his old school this weekend ,them having chalked up 150years. I know small beer to you Anglos but big bikkies out here.
Mind you he is having a bit of trubble heading off our Mary in the publicity stakes and just think what will happen when she gets pregnant. That will wipe his nibs clean off the planet.