PFI In The UK 2005

Posted by: Berlin Fritz on 21 June 2005

I just wondered if anybody had ever heard of it, and how long it will take to suss that it's the route of all the causes of many local Councils Mega-Debt (through endless interest), which subsequently, hinder Education, Health, Building, etc, with everything else suffering to- boot as a consequence through the back door of number 11 Downing Street ?

Fritz Talking Shite again: Big Grin


Please Note: As with my road congestion charge thread which was totally ignored ten days before somebody else started one on here, and was posted to with a vengeance, two days ago I mentioned future possible Rail-Congestion charges, which no doubt will soon also be a big issue, now that Michael's been found innocent at last. I don't mean this sarcastically at all at all, and although my sources weren't unfortunately SKY News, The Currant BUN or Private Eye, they were in fact the dreaded Beeb., and the Times, sorry: Big Grin

PPS People don't complain or care because the loud majority are content !!! Winker So that's allright then, innit ? Smile
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
I expect the British Public will be extatically happy about paying a new rail congestion charge as well as all the Government money (ie Taxpayers )( to Beardie and his mates on top via the PFI rail disasters, innit:

Fritz Von I'm sure somebody else can tell me ohterwise just like our NHS Trust Managers Gobbledygook to confuse the punters, and sell them the good sell Cool
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by andy c
Fritz,
Just so I am not confused, are you talking about private finance intitiatives?

xx

andy c!
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
There's no foolin you Son is there ?



Cheers, Fritz Von FAB Winker
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by andy c
It don't take a lot to confuse me... who?

andy c von on a fitness trip cycling to werk... Red Face
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
I believe you dropped these three £50 pound notes Officer ? Big Grin


Fritz Von Only Joking Cool
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by andy c
Roll Eyes

Wot fifty quid?

LOL
Posted on: 24 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
How can a local authority EVER actually own a new hospital, school, swimmimng baths, etc, etc, if PFI financing is contracted to firstly build, then 'maintain' those 'Public Assets ?', for periods of up to 30 years + (which is now the case). Shorely in essence the PFI contractor will always have said authority 'legally'over a barrel, regerding price increases etc, no cases have been won to-date realting to shoddy & non finished work (Brighton a good example. innit Oldie ?). It really does beggar belief, why can't Central Government/Local Councils borrow money (as everybody else must do) from the B of E, etc, and eventually be in a situation where the taxpayers money is actually being invested, and not actively being thrown to The Brown/Blair Wolves & vultures, who'll be off like a shot when the going get's tough.

Fritz Von Nothing new there then. and they moaned about Gleeson !!! Cool
Posted on: 26 June 2005 by charliestumpy
Nationalize everything including Naim (& Linn) and PFI the UK Parliament.
Posted on: 26 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
It's your money mate, not mine, innit Cool
Posted on: 26 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
I recently became aware that a certain Government department was having it's offices Refurbished etc down Whitehall way,(a few years back) and the boss went apeshit at the PFI estimate. He promptly organised a 'competition' for other PFI bidders, and subsequently & happily rediced the bill by some 20%, and everbody was hunky dory. If one has to accept PFI as a realtity of modern day financing surely at least this 'competition' idea is a good one, saving the taxpayer & treasury literally £Billions. In the hundreds+ of PFI contracts put out since; only three others have played the same game as the first dept, now even after Cabinet recommendations to do so, it has been totally ignored, now why is this ?


Fritz Von A New spin on Greed & Corruption is all I personally can summise, What about you John(s) ? Cool
Posted on: 27 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Oooh, it's filthy! Give it a wipe. Big Grin
Posted on: 03 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Because to date £ Billions of pounds of British Taxpayers money destined for schools, hospitals, librarys, etc, etc, have been consumed by private companys not delivering the goods, and effectively increasing British poverty to-boot, I can only wonder in disbelief. The UK gives large amounts of 'Aid' to third World poverty stricken countries, yet persists with it's own self destruction au fiscal, for the 'Ego's' of a few 'short Term' politicians, Where is the Logic here ?


Fritz Von Who will Britain Blame when it finally becomes as clear as day to them, Europe, Germany, America ? Rupert Murdoch ? I wonder, it certainly wont be themselves Oh No Eek
Posted on: 06 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
For anybody on here who's genuinely interested in sport, they'll be happy to see London win the Olypmpic games bid for 2012 just like I would. Stratford in East London has hardly changed since the bombsites of WWII, in that it's a shithole, and has been re-built time & time again back into a shit-hole comprising of el.cheapo buildings and run down facilities (this has no bearing on the people themselves who have to live there). PFI scemes will renew this area (only if London wins it seems ?) piling mega amounts of public dosh once again into private hands for eternity, bankrupting local authorities in the process.

I don't know one Londoner who wants this to happen under these financial cicrumstamces (and why should they ?). Blair is really playing with fire, or just wants to be seen to be having a bash (New York I feel could win).

Playing fields and valuable areas of the marshes etc, will just get taken away from the 'Poor' by the usual greedy quick buck, I'm off sharpish merchants, watch this space, cos that's slowly happening across the country anyway.


Fritz Von Am I an Anarchist ? Eek
Posted on: 06 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
London Has just Won the 2012 Games, so get yer hands very deep into your pockets boys & girls cos you're gonna pay for it BIG-STYLE.


Fritz Von Proud to be a PFI Patriot Frown


I can't bring myself to Cheer, as I know it will be a disaster for Londoners as a whole:
Posted on: 06 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Blair must have promised the earth with your money ? Big Grin


P.S. Lottery money is paid by you too in case you8 forgot, and also offsets other Government financial responsibilities stealthily. Red Face
Posted on: 15 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
The Financial Times reports today that 'Jarvis' is down another good £330 Million of Taxpayers PFI (so it must be all lies then afterall ?) 'investment?'. I learned yesterday that after the Govt's recent 'shaming' regarding the quality of British school meals (or rather the lack of it ), and all of it's 'big' well publicised 'Promises' to improve matters, the rather large percentage of UK schools affected are supplied by (PFI 25 Year contracts, who've sub contracted out to others, etc, and would require massive further 'Public investement' in these 'Jarvisesque firms' to change legally binding contracts, never mind new deals to put real peas on the kids real plates.