24/96 Uniti upgrade and music source

Posted by: Paul Hannan on 23 March 2010

Hi All

I've just had my Uniti upgraded, absolutely seamlessly - thanks to Infidelity! I've downloaded a couple of tracks and they sound great - spacious and better resolved.

I'm struggling to find a good source of more mainstream 24/96 music. One of the sources I'm interested in is extracting the 24bit/96Khz files from DVD-Audio - is this feasible??? For example Amazon sell a variety of DVD-Audio DVDs. Can I use XLD or MAx to convert to Flac?? (I'm Mac based)

Many thanks

Paul
Posted on: 23 March 2010 by AV@naim
Unfortunatly, even though our forum rules don't stipulate this, this subject is a bit taboo given that it probably involves the use of software tools that circumvent encryption schemes/DMCA et al.

One thing is for sure, we definatly would not allow linking to sites that contained them.

Sorry...
Posted on: 23 March 2010 by Paul Hannan
Thanks for the feedback. Is there any difference in ripping a Flac file from a CD as opposed to ripping from a DVD-A if both are owned by myself? Sorry I'm new to this so may be missing something obvious
Posted on: 23 March 2010 by AV@naim
CD ripping depends on various things, mainly if you own the original, how the copy is stored, and your country of origin. The key difference with CD over DVD is you are not decrypting an encrypted datastream.

With DVD-Video/Audio, you are bound by the rules of your country regarding DMCA, as you have to decrypt the encrypted packets from the disc as they are copied - which is illegal in most countries, even if you own the discs.
Posted on: 24 March 2010 by Paul Hannan
Thanks for the clarification. Whilst 24/96 audio is technically excellent its not much use without a reliable source of tracks. Has anyone found alternative sources or downloadable HD tracks? The Naim and Linn sites have a limited selection at present but appear to be the best out there (at least usable from the UK)
Posted on: 24 March 2010 by Aleg
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Hannan:
Thanks for the clarification. Whilst 24/96 audio is technically excellent its not much use without a reliable source of tracks. Has anyone found alternative sources or downloadable HD tracks? The Naim and Linn sites have a limited selection at present but appear to be the best out there (at least usable from the UK)


Hi Paul

What is your musical interest?

This is my shortlist for mainly classical but also other music styles:
- HDTracks
- 2L from Norway
- Gimell records (Studio Master & Studio Master Pro)
- Reference Recordings (the HRx line)
- High Definition Tape Transfers
- Qobuz from France (recordings in Studio Masters quality)
- Passionato (lots of downloadable flacs (but not HiRes))

-
aleg
Posted on: 24 March 2010 by Paul Hannan
Many thanks Aleg - as you suggest these sites are very classical and jazz orientated. I'm interested in more mainstream music too - e.g. the likes of Coldplay, Pink Floyd, etc.
Posted on: 28 March 2010 by Kamera
The music industry bangs on about declining sales, at the same time they completely ignore a section of customers who are crying out for hi-res releases.

Andy
Posted on: 29 March 2010 by Paul Hannan
How about the range of CDs released in 24/96 format such as those sold on Amazon. As these are CDs I assume these will not be bound by the same restrictions as DVD-As???
Posted on: 29 March 2010 by Aleg
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Hannan:
How about the range of CDs released in 24/96 format such as those sold on Amazon. As these are CDs I assume these will not be bound by the same restrictions as DVD-As???


CD and 24/96 is not possible.

CDs have to be 44.1/16 to be playable.
What you probably have seen are CDs that contain music that has been REMASTERED at 24/96 but has then been brought down again to 44.1/16 to be put on CD.

So this is no HiRes music but just HiRes remastering.

-
aleg
Posted on: 29 March 2010 by rich46
cds are red book. in the process they may be cleaned up they may sound better but cd players are only 16bit. in the future when downloads be come common then suitable dacs will read them. anyone who thinks that will be in the near future ,have a long wait to at least 2014
Posted on: 29 March 2010 by Paul Hannan
Thanks once again for clearing that up!
Posted on: 30 March 2010 by David Dever
Setting aside the NaimUniti for a moment-it IS possible to play 32-bit float/384kHz WAV files on the Naim DAC. These are often obtained as a by-product of DxD mastering workstations (Sonoma, Pyramix), as DSD must be transcoded to high-bit rate PCM for editing.

So far, the music industry (if there is such a beast still breathing) has failed to develop a commercial model, as the physical playback hardware has been either insecure or too sporadic to matter.

Best bet? Make friends with a mastering engineer, or, alternately, start making hi-res recordings yourself.
Posted on: 31 March 2010 by Michael Chare
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Hannan:
How about the range of CDs released in 24/96 format such as those sold on Amazon. As these are CDs I assume these will not be bound by the same restrictions as DVD-As???
Would you like to provide a web link to what you have seen. - Or the name and artist of one of the albums.