DIYing for Fraim — II

Posted by: graphoman on 17 March 2002

Sorry, I’ve never tried Mana at home. The only reliable reference familiar to you was a Quadraspire rack meeting my old Sound Orgs (Z28, the tall ones). I’ve always been aware of the limitations of SO tables but I was not convinced by the merits of the QS, at all. Its more elegant and refined sound missed the real weight and body of the SO. It had a distinctly “aluminium” sound contrary to SO’s “iron” character; my own experiments with alu pillars plus MDF plates gave QS-like results.

It’s worth mentioning that I am very sensitive in perceiving slight differences but just as much undecided when judging which one the better is, especially in A-B testing. And it’s extremely difficult to compare the different setting-ups of the rack. Once having the skill, it still took some 20 minutes to take both supports to pieces and put them together again. (Actually, the whole assembly should have two days for burning-in. Believe it or not.)

It’s worth mentioning, too, that my room is overdamped with books, carpets, and curtains. The SBLs had no places but actually buried in the corners so they always had a Spendor-like character. In addition to it, I have learned in this very forum that older Naim models (like my 12-year-old CDS1, 15-year-old HiCap, 20-year-old renovated 250) all had a mellow sound character compared to recent ones. For speaker cable still I use 2x10 m of A5, no less. So I’d like to make clear that my statements, enthusiastic they are, should be interpreted with the limitation of my equipment in mind. (And you may forgive my poor English. I keep translating, I write what I can, not what I want to.)

It’s widely known you should change only one parameter at the same time. Yet when in the meantime I finally got the “chips” I simply had to try them immediately under the racks — and they caused big confusion, I passed through heavy trials! The whole quality of stereophony changed, I lost my sense of direction. It was like stepping out of the recording studio into the concert hall. Agressive close-miked recordings became spacious and listenable — but at the expense of a strange softening in the presence range. Even so, having lived 2 days with the chips simply there were no way backwards and the improvement became indisputable. To play safe now I put the “chips” under the speaker’s spikes, too — and the result was even more pronounced. OBVIOUSLY THE NEW SOUND CHARACTER HAD TO BE ACCEPTED WHEN FINE TUNING THE RACKS. That’s the price to pay if your equipment support is not a factory-made one.

Another parameter that incidentally was changed during the evaluation was the range order of main plugs in (Naim’s) distribution block. It was discussed in this forum a few month ago but I was not aware of it’s importance. Now assembling the racks over and over, many a time I felt strange treble loss and I tracked it down to the topic mentioned. I can not turn over the pages to find the discussion but IMO there always must come the source first, then the HiCap, then the amp — consequently that was the right order.

The re-built Fraim, even its first variant, has justified my efforts. It belonged to a distinctly higher category than SOs and QSs. The usual energy peaks were eliminated, even when listening to some of my favourite but highly problematic records such as Ellington’s big band from the ’50s or the big black operatic mezzos of the ’60s (Verrett, Bumbry). Distortions reduced, bass register (even with SBLs) soft and extended, dynamic range and space improved. Better Hi-Fi. Changing the CDS1’s burndy cable from grey to black was none of that kind of upgrade.

The final variant, with stainless steel and the addition of “chips” was an other game. Gone the hardness, any mechanical noise from the sound. Now music was tiding in a velvet-like flow, with plenty of depth space and a certain nonchallance. „There is a Linn in the system”, if you recall the old slogan from the ’70s. Recordings known as disturbingly close-miked moved back to a real-life-space. Bass did not come from the speakers any more, rather “from below the floor”, far below the 60-Hz-resonance of my room. (Quantity of bass and warmth of the sound depends on the alu arrangement so it could not yet considered final.) Bass instruments, on the other hand, were very articulate. Since the sound seemed too “mellow”, laid-back in the presence range, the alu structure was modified to fill out the gap in the frequency range. I don’t say it’s perfect but now jazz piano would be “singing” and interpretation much more interesting. Music instruments such as SBLs magic flutes (recorders) and trumpets came to a new life. Opera music listenable from ouverture to finale, human voice better than I’ve hoped. If you are anti-church but if listening to Tannhäuser you have the feeling of deep religiousity then you’ve done a big leap in audio quality.

Conclusion
The main design of Fraim DO WORK even if re-built with (careful!) approximations and with the use of modest materials — my admiration for the designers! I’ll never have the possibility to compare my version to the original, I’m afraid. It’s only a hopeful feeling that if Fraim proves to be a real Stradivarius then my version may be a good no-name-master’s violin, preferably of italian origin.

One of the obvious merits of Fraim is that it’s heavy and light at the same time. (This thinking was pioneered by Mana, I understand.) In addition to it, the resonant frequencies of Fraim’s numerous components seems to be tuned to each other on a congenial way. It may come as a surprise for most but there exists a known method for measuring the acoustical behaviour of mechanical products like this. Tiny vibration sensors when applied on the target object can registrate a kind of frequency range whenever a mechanical impulse is generated on the target. I think Fraim is the only support on the market that’s worth to be measured at all. And I’d not the least be surprised if learning that Fraim had really been measured that way during the designing process.

graphoman

Posted on: 17 March 2002 by garyi
right after reading two incredably long posts am I to take it you have built a rack?

wheres the pictures then, writing is boring pictures are good.

Posted on: 17 March 2002 by graphoman
yes I’ve built the racks but I’m that stupid and can’t compress pictures to suitable format.
In 2 or three days I’ll send it to you in PFD format. Thanks for your patience.

graphoman

Posted on: 17 March 2002 by garyi
Open them in photo shop or photo deuxe, or coral paint or any drawing package, make the image a bit smaller physically. Then save in the JPG format, you should them be offered a compression ratio set it low.

Or upload to your FTP and link them from here. I want to see!

I am building one in the summer and am a sponge for ideas!

Posted on: 17 March 2002 by dvdkeogh
It sounds like you've built a great rack, well done. Smile; Sit back; and maybe pour yourself some wine and enjoy!

Do not be too self-effacing about your use of English vocabulary, trust me it is near perfect, and a great deal better than many of the English contributors to the forum, and also my own– ours are usually full of spelling mistakes!

Good day,

Dave

Posted on: 17 March 2002 by graphoman
thank you — you see I always feel I’m still not far from Basic English.

Gary,
I hope you and others have received the photo (still of the experimental model) in pdf.

graphoman

Posted on: 17 March 2002 by garyi
graphoman, you have mail!

Regarding the PDF, how did you create it? Chnaces are you can save from the same programme as a compressed JPG.

Great racks by the way, you would have to look closely to see they arn't fraim, I am afraid mine arn't likely to be to that standard!

Posted on: 17 March 2002 by graphoman
that’s what my idea was, namely that someone would create the suitable file from my PDF and send it to the Forum. It’s really funny that while I keep working with Photoshop and Acrobat Distiller I can’t manage a good JPG. So please do it on my behalf.

graphoman

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by graphoman:
while I keep working with Photoshop


If your Photoshop is V5.5 or later the following should work:-

Open the image.

File/Save for web. Go to the 2-up tab. Left image show thew original, right image shows the expected result.

Click the right-pointing triangle at top right. Optimise to file size & pick 30kb.

If the Quality score comes back at 40 or more then you're probably OK.

If not, then click the Image Size tab and set the percent value to 66.66666% (i.e. 2/3rds), constrain proportions=yes, Quality = smooth. Click apply.

Now re-do the optimise-for-file-size thing. Does it look OK? Is the quality above 40?

If not, re-do the size at 50% (1/2) & repeat.

Keep cutting the size to 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, etc until you get a good result.

Click OK to save the file.

cheers, Martin

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by garyi
I am at work at the moment but will do it when I get home.

Gramph, I sent you a suitably sized picture to post on the web, did you get it?

The quality is not too bad however as it is a PDF and I hate Acrobat so havn't bought it I am unable to 'extract' so it is only a screen shot.

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by garyi
Ok here is Gramphs piccie.

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by ken c
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Ok here is Gramphs piccie.


oh, boy, that does look quite like the real thing!

sound quality compared?

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by graphoman
thank you for your assistance. As I told you it’s the first variant, of “normal” steel, no chips and less good alu profils, without anodyzing. (Sorry for the clumsy arrangement, my room is like a hounted hosue.)

Martin,
thanks for the tip but I got Photoshop 5.0. Want to turn back to the topic.

Ken,
regarding sound quality you find plenty of hints if you have the patience to read all that jazz on top of the page. There never can happen any comparison to the original since there is no Naim dealer in our country who could lend me a Fraim. All I can do is to keep improving the (re-)design and hope I succeed.

graphoman

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by Mike Sae
That's incredible.

That they're sunken into the bookshelves is especially cool.

Congratulations!

[This message was edited by Mike Sae on MONDAY 18 March 2002 at 23:05.]

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by garyi
graphoman.

After looking at your schimatics PDF I feel totally intimidated about making my own rack. Are you an engineer?

Mine seemed so good, so simple, now it just looks micky mouse.

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by graphoman:
Martin,
thanks for the tip but I got Photoshop 5.0. Want to turn back to the topic.


Does your copy of p/s come with ImageReady? I think this can do the same thing.

It really is a good way to setup images for the conference.

cheers, Martin

Posted on: 18 March 2002 by Greg Beatty
quote:
After looking at your schimatics PDF...

???

- GregB

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Posted on: 19 March 2002 by ken c
fascinating thread!!! quite a bit to absorb. many thanks graphoman and vuk for posting extra b/ground.

now, where is that tenon saw?

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 19 March 2002 by Greg Beatty
...for info. Kinda hard to visualize from the description. I have an image in my head but no idea if it is the right one. Sounds hard to make - good for Naim wink

- GregB

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Posted on: 19 March 2002 by graphoman
“... That they're sunken into the bookshelves is especially cool.”
When I designed the bookcase (some 4 years ago or so) I was aware of a funny phenomenon namely putting the racks near the wall I got more bass, moving from the wall much less bass but better treble. At the end I decided to sink the racks (then SOs) into the bookshelves but I still don’t know if I was right. Because:

Mr Tibbs:
“Are you going to modify the bookcase to allow the leads to go through the back?”
Many a time I tried to lead the cables behind the bookshelves. May it interconnect or speaker cable any time it turned out to be a catastrophe. Gone the treble and the sound gone blooey. Recently the racks were pulled 5 cm forwards. Now the thick interconnect is not as stiff, it’s hanging conveniently. But all cables keep running in front of the shelves. I can’t give any explanation but as I mentioned the electric meter of the flat is immediately behind the right speaker on the picture (from the outside, of course) and it may have this deletorious effect.

Gary
“Are you an engineer?”
Not the least. But during the decades I’ve got made many objects for Hi-Fi and I learned how to make drawings that — while far from being professional — can be understood and reproduced by the craftsmen.

graphoman