Rap Music 20 years on

Posted by: Shayman on 24 May 2006

Not most people's cup of tea here but just thought I'd see what anyone else thinks about the evolution (or not) of Rap music.

It first came to my attention in about 1984 and I listened to it a lot between 84 and 89. In 84 it seemed completely alien and a radical new musical movement which really grabbed me. Over the next 5 year there was a rapid evolution from the first tinny, street poetry recordings of Grand Master Flash/Melle Mel etc to bigger beats with the likes of Run DMC, LL Cool J, Tone Loc etc. then came the white Bad Boy image and lyrics of Beastie Boys, 3rd Base etc and the evolution towards inner city rage and confronting societies poor treatment of America's Black population with NWA and Public Enemy. We even had the forays into peaceful rap by the likes of De La Soul. By the end of the 80's sampling was starting to be used in all forms, using clips from old pop, Blues and Soul tunes. Happy days up til this point.

Now, the point of this post came to me when listening to Straight Outta Compton the other night for probably the first time in 5 or 6 years. It struck me that following the initial rapid evolution of rap music in those early years apparently absolutely nothing new has happened to the genre since. Other than the next new thing coming along and doing exactly what last years next new thing did nothing has changed for the best part of 17 years.

Maybe this is why my music tastes (thankfully) moved on. But what is it that happened? Is it dead as a musical form....or can anyone disprove my theory?

Any opinions?

Jonathan
Posted on: 25 May 2006 by andrew sutton
Hi, I recall rap being popular in and around the music venues of Manchester in the 70's-certainly '77 onward. So we are looking at 30 years on. Cheers Andy.
Posted on: 25 May 2006 by nicnaim
quote:
Originally posted by jasons:

A Tribe Called Quest


Jasons,

Thanks. I can remember the band name, but could not hum a single one of their tunes.

Nic
Posted on: 25 May 2006 by nicnaim
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Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:
Wish me luck tomorrow with the medical. Well the nurzse ought to recognised the symptoms...


Fredrik,

Good luck, hope no blood samples involved, they will come out with a head on them!

Regards

Nic
Posted on: 25 May 2006 by Lee
I don't have much in the way of rap and have tried to get into it every now and then. I find I like individual tracks, but can rarely cope with a whole album - the lyrical delivery often grates on me.

Scott in DC has probably hit the nail on the head: most innovation has already happened or, possibly more accurately, the more experimental just doesn't get aired on the radio etc so unless you're an avid fan of the genre you're unlikely to hear it. The Wire magazine has a section devoted to rap reviews so, given their reputation of delving into the more left-field genres/artists, I'd guess that there's still a lot of experimentation going on. One album I picked up after reading reviews was cLOUDDEAD's eponymous release. Bit of an acquired taste (lazy description might be rap/electronica crossover) but very far removed from the gangsta stuff that makes the charts.

I think the Anticon label and Warp's Lex imprint might be good starting points for the more experimentally-inclined rap fan...also see

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A1064170

Seek and ye shall find maybe?
Posted on: 27 May 2006 by Alan Paterson
Kanye West. About the best rap/hiphop i have heard in ages. Also have you heard Plan B? Track called no good for me (from an old prodigy track) is amazing. If you have SKY you may have seen the video on the likes of mtv2.