Quadraspire

Posted by: Duncan Fullerton on 25 July 2001

Kit: LP12, CDX, XPS, 82, 2 x HiCap, 2 x 135

Have you guys any experience of Quadraspire stuff? Much though I'd like to Fraim/Hutter/Mana my kit, dosh is an issue, so I'm thinking of lobbing a few bob at my local retailer of this stuff.

Not being very bright, I was thinking of 7 shelf unit with 100mm gaps. I'm hoping someone out there has simliar kit on similar racks and can advise on alternative formations. I.e. two tables/different gaps. For space reasons two is the max I could cope with, but I'm open to suggestions as to shelf gaps and distribution of kit. Or indeed any other input.

Thanks muchly ...

Posted on: 25 July 2001 by Steveandkate
Duncan,
Seeing as you are in London, why not go to Grahams, in Islington - I have just got a whole new rig, including Quadraspire Reference stand, which they claim is pretty close to the Fraim in certain ways...
Also, they did offer to lend me a second-hand stand if mine wasn't ready by delivery day, so may have it for sale, if budjet is really tight !
As to gaps etc, mine has 6" which I believe gives air cooling space, but talk to them - I found them very helpful !
Good luck,

Steve

Posted on: 25 July 2001 by ken c
stephen: reference is the new "wobblier" rack from QS. you can get a brochure of QS products, including the reference, by sending an e-mail to QS, as i did.

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 25 July 2001 by Chris Dolan
[QUOTE] Save.

Some things are worth it.

Mr Pig. /QUOTE]

Mr Pig, you've not been listening to the Fraim have you?

Chris wink

Posted on: 25 July 2001 by Chris Dolan
[QUOTE]Save.

Some things are worth it.

Mr Pig.[QUOTE]

Mr Pig, you've not been listening to the Fraim have you?

Chris wink

Sorry about the double post, but I'm trying to catch up Mike Hanson!!!

Posted on: 25 July 2001 by Steve Toy
I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of QS Reference at my dealer, where I'll get to demo it soon. It has been suggested that it may even be BETTER than Mana in some areas, and not just price! cool

It's always a nice day for it, have a good one wink
Steve

Posted on: 25 July 2001 by ken c
quote:
It has been suggested that it may even be BETTER than Mana in some areas, and not just price!

interesting. who is suggesting this? for electronics or for lp12 or both???

now my turn: it has been suggested that the reference is definitely better than isoblue and gives the hutter a run for its money.

if you get a chance, it will be interesting if you can dem it against one or two other racks, say isoblue and/or hutter, and let us know what you think. its certainly getting hot in this area....

mischief time: i wonder how a phase 4 QS reference sounds?? big grin big grin big grin ....

is there life beyond hifi racks?

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 25 July 2001 by Steve Toy
I don't think it's fair to say WHO said... as it is unfair to quote those who may not wish to be quoted. (BTW, don't call me Stephen T, as I'm Steven Toy. Moreover, Stephen Tearne, another poster to this Forum, calls himself Steve T!)
I know that the reference was made to BOTH LP12 AND electronics. I know that Quadraspire have experimented with different types of wood - and lacquer coatings - versus glass. I think it's down to their use of non-glass, as well as the decoupling of each shelf, especially the top shelf, which is further decoupled for either the CD player or the turntable, although I'm going to experiment with the preamp on the top shelf also. I've found that this is more critical to overall performance against, say placing the CD player at this optimal position in my current modest supports.
I currently use glass, which I know adds a certain "ringing" to the sound.
I've found ringing to be quite detrimental to the natural ebb and flow of music, i.e: subtle manifestations of PR&T, when I heard JM Lab 905s on CD (metal) stands versus Naos floorstanders in a CDS2/52/250 system - for you die_hard Flat Earthers, I did the above A/B tests OUTSIDE of the listening room, with the door open, where I had no spatial distractions!
I later discovered that the 905s work brilliantly atop JM Lab's WOODEN stands!

It's always a nice day for it, have a good one wink
Steve

[This message was edited by Steven Toy on THURSDAY 26 July 2001 at 03:50.]

Posted on: 26 July 2001 by ken c
I don't think it's fair to say WHO said... as it is unfair to quote those who may not wish to be quoted.

fair enough. who is this person who doesnt want to be quoted? big grin big grin

BTW, don't call me Stephen T, as I'm Steven Toy.

my apologies. shere laziness on my part.

please let us know how you get on with the reference dem.

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 26 July 2001 by Steve Toy
If I told you WHO the person was who didn't want to be quoted, then I would be quoting that person, whom I'm not quoting. Let's just say that a good journalist would say, "a reliable source!" big grin big grin big grin big grin
One day I'll get to do an A/B dem between Mana and new QS Reference, and then I won't need to (un)quote anybody!
Steven Toy,
as opposed to
Stephen Toy,
or Stephen T
wink

It's always a nice day for it, have a good one wink
Steve

Posted on: 26 July 2001 by Simon Matthews
"The LP12 deserves nothing less than Mana"

James, have you heard fraim in comparison to mana or is this just your previous preferences?
I only say this as it already appears that one or two people have ditched mana in favour of frame.

Posted on: 26 July 2001 by ken c
Steven Toy,
as opposed to
Stephen Toy,
or Stephen T

its hopeless, isnt it... one day, i'll get it right.

i'd love to quote you on your mana/QS dem.

its likely that i will rationalise on QS reference (2 5-tier racks) to replace the mistire of isoblue and projekt that i have. i think the LP12 will end up on a mana sound table or reference, plus power supply table for the geddon.


enjoy

ken

[This message was edited by ken c on THURSDAY 26 July 2001 at 17:01.]

Posted on: 27 July 2001 by Simon Matthews
Stallion

You say the new quadraspire 'trounces the fraim big time'. Where did you get this dem?

Posted on: 27 July 2001 by Simon Matthews
stallion

yes, more info would be good. What dealer, what kit ( cd, lp?), how much kit on each rack, how many levels????. I only say this as the two dealers I have spoken to who stock both products already have a preferance for the fraim. Also one dealer told me that the fraim requires approx half an hour to optimise after loading kit. You seem to have a strong opinion yet have failed to add any meat to your view.

Posted on: 27 July 2001 by Alex S.
Help!
Posted on: 27 July 2001 by Nigel Cavendish
Come on, which dealer was - it might be local enough for me to have a listen.

cheers

Nigel

Posted on: 27 July 2001 by Duncan Fullerton
Thanks for that input. I've spoken to my dealer who hadn't heard of the Reference. He put me onto the main man at Quadraspire, who had. Which was nice!

Trouble is he couldn't give me a price off the top of his head - obvoiusly got his finger on the pulse. wink Can you remember what they were? A wooden Q4 is about £280 with £70 per add-on shelf. How does this pitch against the wobbly one?

Posted on: 27 July 2001 by P
I took a look at the latest Quadraspire gimmick recently and it never even entered into the equation as far as being a going concern goes.

You are having a laugh right?

P.

Posted on: 27 July 2001 by P
Domestic tiffs notwithstanding..

You said the Quadraspire wiped the floor with the Fraim and we here who like, and believe in our Naim, would really like to know why.

Be objective now

P.

Posted on: 27 July 2001 by Mick P
Chaps

I am sure that in about 6 months time, most of you will have had the opportunity of seeing and hearing the Fraim. Also Mana will soon be sold via retail outlets so you will be able to do a direct comparison. Hopefully this will end the constant arguments of which one is better, especially when most of you have not yet heard the two in comparison.

The Fraim wins hands down on WAF and style and believe me you are in for a pleasant surprise on the sound.

Hold back until you have heard both and then make your choice between the ironmongery and wooden craftsmanship........your choice chaps.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 27 July 2001 by Steve Toy
I think I know where Stallion did his QS dem, and I'm waiting to do mine at the same dealer, different branch.
I'll be as irritating as he, by not saying which dealer - so you'll all have to work it out for yourselves! big grin wink big grin wink

It's always a nice day for it, have a good one wink
Steve

Posted on: 28 July 2001 by ken c
stallion, hi!!! sorry i missed the barbie -- would have loved to see you in person. now, what is this heresy that you are spreading? QS ref better than fraim? very interested to hear further details...

enjoy

ken