JS Bach's 48, played by Helmut Walcha.

Posted by: u5227470736789439 on 02 August 2005

Dear Friends,

As promised six months or more ago! My thoughts on Walcha's recording, published in 1961.

The forty eight preludes and fugues in all the keys, twice, is such a huge and daunting work that to truly get to know them is a big task in itself. Not as daunting as the Art Of Fugue in my view, but surely Fischer had it right when he said that The Well Tempered Klavier, "is the Old Testamant, and Beethoven's Piano Sonatas the New!"

Half the problem is that Bach wrote such wonderful Fugues, and yet the form itself is not always easily accessible to the fairly casual listener not versed in counter-point. Some of Bach's Fugues at first aquaintance can be somewhat impenetrable, until you get used to the idea of thematic combination, sometimes with several different subjects and sometimes with only one, treated to a succession of devices - augmentation (lengthening of all the note values proportionally), diminution (the opposite), mirror (playing the them upside down, roughly speaking!), elaboration, developement... Indeed after a while anyone can get quite good at spotting Bach having a wry smile, because he knows the listener would not have possibly dreamed what has just been written was possible! Number games were also very important to Bach and a study of this music on paper will soon reveal alsorts of numerical relationships, within pieces, and even between them, as well as allowing even more successful listen later. This all tends to add to the unapproachable mystique of Bach, the dusty mathematician, wrting a sort of exclusive and incomprehansible music, only for conoiseurs. I beleive this to absolute rot, and I have used some of these Preludes and Fugues to get people started on Classical Music, with an absolute look of shock on people's faces when all they thought they would get might be The Air from the Third Suite for Orchestra, or Wachet auf..., the advert for Lloyds when it was a Thoroughbred Among Banks! What always gets them is how Bach manages to capture the emotional and spiritual message clearly. When I explain the framework, they just wonder how that would not cripple the idea, but to Bach it merely adds spice to the task - a spur to even greater hieghts, if you like.

I am going to divide thus review into four parts (over four weeks, I hope), as it is beyond reason to expect to still be lucid trying to describe such a performance as this all in one go. Walch's EMI recording is not the first I have known. I learned a good deal about the music from Edwin Fischer's EMI set played on the piano and recorded between 1933 and 1935 the first completed recording, and still rightly available. It seems to me that the first records we hear often remain favourites. Twelve months after I found the Walcha set I have given the Fischer performance to a friend, explaining that I had found something even finer, and which had made me appreciate things in the music Fischer does not even address, not least because the piano is indisputably not what it was composed to be played on, and that the dynamics are usually all wrong as a result. Otherwise I have a few isolated example, but all on the piano.

The First Prelude, which is famous, not least because Gounod notoriously set the Ave Maria over in in a melody of his own invention which fits to Bach's harmonic ground plan, begins in a seemingly relaxed flow of gently detatched phrases, but straight away the ear should pick out the fact that the bass notes are played full length as Bach wrote, and not half length as the print has it! Indeed, the way that the bass should be played in various cases would (and been!) enough to write whole books on. The effect, however is on of a serene flow preparing us, perhaps for the rather more trenchant anf musically angular Fugue. Walcha again sees no need to rush and finds and easy gait that hardly deviates from the initial tempo. The effect is of two related pieces, even though all that binds them is tonality.

C Minor finds old JSB in sterner mode, but again the Prelude is smooth as to rhythm, at least till the Coda. Walcha manages the apparently impossible on the harpsichord. He brings out the crucial line thoughout, and it sings gloriously as any great Bach performance will, but within a detache style that actually shortens the sounded duration of the highlighted notes, though not their rhythmic value of course. The pulse is steady. The Fugue now sees Bach set a very plain theme At first in a bare octave, but introducing the other voices rather soon, which both makes the sound-world quite dense, though always clear on the harpsichord, which in a very brief span covers a lot of ground. Not a beginers fugue I'd say.

C sharp Major finds exhilaration in a rather short Prelude, which is persued by a wonderfully (and seemingly impossibly!) tuneful Fugue, which is full of light and joy and energy, and whaich again Walcha plays with a steady pulse though his tempo is faster matching the musical introduction of the Prelude.

C sharp Minor is anything but tragic in the Prelude. Not yet heroic (as some of the Preludes are later) it treads that happy paths of reaching an unclouded end. But the Fugue sets off in dark tones right at the bottom of the keyboard and hear we find Bach's seriousness of purpose matched by Walcha. Nothing is played with, and the result is apowerful emotional rendition completely devoid anything but a modest and great response to the text. The tempo is so apt, that it would be hard to say if it is slow or fast though the pulse is something just over 65.

D Major starts rather like sumeone very good strumming almost thoughtlessly a a line in the right hand over a pacing bass-line in a fashion I always think is comical. It is most like a sort of improvisation. Walcha does not miss the chance to change our view just before the end of this very short opener. Then we come to the meat course. The Fugue is anything but simple, and bears a good deal of study to work out where the themes are derived from. (Are they new material or related? etc!). Walcha is a master of the fugue for he is just flexible enough for the flow to be totaly natural, though never indulgent to the point where any nuance comes to the surface (in his playing that is) and you notice the music not the player. By now we realise that he has the measure of this music, and that Fugues that cab be tough and inflexible are breathing a life all their own, rather than being turned into a vehical for the performer.

D Minor has a rolling over idea in the right hand and the true thematic ideas which are not so even as the top line given in the middle of the keyboard. The very end of it contains a very odd progression, which sounds not quite tonal (and very modern to my ear at least) even this long after the composition. Walcha fully brings this out with some gentle slowing in the final bars. The Fugue, though quite fast has a tragic depth to it, but seems to me rather a clear structure. No tricks here!

E Flat Major starts in a grand mode and actually sounds a little Handelian, but soon enough returns to Bach and get ever more notes to play in each bar. It must be rather hard, and fortunately I played the bass, so I can listen and smile. Then the Fugue all is clearness and light. A ggod fuge to learn from a record so clear is its structure and combinations. New Variants pop up and feed through, but nothing but joy on a surface level. A gem!

Now a favourite of mine: The E flat Minor. To hear this on a harpsichord should be enough to convince anyone capable of sympathy with the tragically noble (rather than simply wanting the tragic element to dominate the noble) that the music is transformed on the piano. The great chords are heavy and dense, which means loud on the harpsichord. Here we get a whiff of defiance, where the tendency of a cultivated musician on the piano is soften the impact, and with it the noble defiance in the face pain. The Fugue folloes naturally as a sort or contemplation (not painfully slow) with a measured but steady tread. Its start is as cool as the crisp autumn brease, and moves to an ever more powerful determination that noble and humane elements will eventually gain a hold in this case. Truly this is a remarkable realisation of music that transcends its means and its place.

E Major from Bach is not the key of love duets, we find from from Handel, but here we find joy and lightness, even a delicate stand. Bach employs the higher regeons on the harpsichord, which very different from the piano, of course. The FuGue moves off with equal lightness, also at the top of the intrument, but it is a piece which requires a very clear view on articulation. it make no sense in a steady legato, and yet would soon become rather arch if it were all played stacato. There is a required lift which Walcha acheievs most naturally.

E Minor is a key which often finds Bach rather unlike his ususal self, if any such thing really excisted in a musical sense! But certainly for the first time we get a Prelude in two distinct sections. Walcha, for one of only three times in the whole reading uses the lute stop in the bass of the first half, to quite beautiful affect. The Fugue is mad, and an absolute must for anyone who thinks Bach lacks excitement, though I doubt if I'd quite call it humourous!

F Major is altogether less strained. The Prelude is flowing and very short and run almost without a break straight into the Fugue. I love this one, but perhaps it is less immediately attractive to the beginer than the E Minor. Personally I find it the perfect complement.

F Minor finds something rather happy to say, and indeed it is true that minor did not always means sad, as it were, to the old composers, but rather something that can morph from happy to sad very fast, and back again! The Fugue really has a very odd theme, which on its own sounds very angular. It grows into something of extreme beauty and resonance. Though Bach never fails to address sadness, like Haydn, he is always life-enhancing in his treatment of it. Never trite, but certainly not lacking emotional courage. This Fugue finds Walcha as firm and clear-sighted as anywhere, but no doubt he shared Bach's view of a greater good. A good stopping point for now. [Perhaps we could doubt that it will always triumph in this world today, but this kind of music and this kind of performance is enough to boost the morale, at least till the next news buletin].

I have not mentioned the recording or the instrument. There is no need to say other than that the instrument is clear, well regulated, and has a very fine tone, and the recording first rate.

Fredrik
Posted on: 11 August 2005 by KRO
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Originally posted by pe-zulu:
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Originally posted by KRO:
A man of honour and dignity to be sure.


Oh yes, that may be an adequate description of the private person Glenn Gould. Nor shall I discuss Gould further in this thread.


The complment was for your good self.
Posted on: 11 August 2005 by pe-zulu
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Originally posted by Fredrik H:
My favourite Brandenbergs on Period Instruments are done (on Virgin) by the Hans Martin Linde Consort, while I prefer Kujiken's Petit Bande recordings in the Suites (on Deutch Harmonia Mundi)


Dear Frederik

Thanks for your post

Lindes Brandenburgs is just my favorite version too - I should add, that I have heard almost all existing recordings of these concertos. And Lindes recording of the suites (EMI Reflexe)
is my favorite suites, but La Petite Bande makes a close run, which is true of their Brandenburgs too (except for the fact that they use corno (Claude Maury) in concerto nr.2 instead of tromba, which means that the part is played 16´. There is a manuscript by a Bach pupil authorizing this, but the result sounds bad, with bad balance between the soloists. You know Robert Thurston Dart was mad with this issue too.

As Philips has deleted the Rübsam Kunst der Fuge, I have no scruples about sending you a copy, if you want. I have to think a little more about which interpretation else to recommend you.

I find Bachs music fatalistic (or teleological) too - especially the fugues, IMO because Bachs genius probably could see all the possibilities of combinations inherent in a particular theme in advance and for that reason was able to foresee the inner need or neccesary evolution of the theme. And he composed in accordance with his realization.

Walchas strength seems to be built on the circumstance, that he from inner meditation had become aware of this coherence and was able to communicate this recognition in a musical and convincing way.
Another circumstance is the enormous spiritual and mental concentration, which radiate from his playing. Sometimes I find him a tad too serious (I think he lacked a sense of humour), but I always found most of his harpsichord recordings extraordinarily fascinating and rewarding.
The intensity is, I agree, usually on a rather deep level, but sometimes he may be strikingly extatic, e.g. in parts of the Partitas and English suites and many of the organ fugues.

I too used a little longer time to "digest" WTC part two. It is more introspective and austere, not the least in Walchas interpretation. I had some benefit in the process of digesting WTC part one by playing it myself (on piano). Most of part two is tecnically too difficult for me.

Münchinger, yes, a great achievement for his time, and as you write in service of the music. My first encounter with the Brandenburgs was Münchingers 1949 Decca recording. This was the starting point of my forever growing Bach committement.

P.S. Your post did encourage me and this is the reason, why I am writing.
Posted on: 11 August 2005 by pe-zulu
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Originally posted by KRO:
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Originally posted by pe-zulu:
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Originally posted by KRO:
A man of honour and dignity to be sure.


Oh yes, that may be an adequate description of the private person Glenn Gould. Nor shall I discuss Gould further in this thread.


The complment was for your good self.


Oh, I almost can´t believe your flattering words.
Posted on: 11 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
Dear Poul,

I'll post agood reply tomorrow. especially about the recordings of Walcha I don't have...

I am glad you like HM Linde. I looked for years for a set that would eclipse old A Busch. Actually it does, but I can't get over my first discovery of this music on 78s at school. We also had an Arkiv LP of Brandenbeg Six withe the Schola Cantorum Basiliensis under Wenzinger, and I am sure I have never heard it better done, though I last heard that old LP (in a complicated buff cover with no picture) since 1975. It has never come out again has it?

As for compliments, I never know how to take them! Sometimes they can easily be taken more than one way when one does not know well the person who makes them!

Fredrik
Posted on: 11 August 2005 by pe-zulu
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Originally posted by Fredrik H:
As for compliments, I never know how to take them! Sometimes they can easily be taken more than one way when one does not know well the person who makes them!
Fredrik


I was left in no doubt about the positive intention in your penultimate post. I replied in your spirit. But I have got a problem , since English isn´t my native language, and it may be difficult for me to anticipate some sophisticated possible different interpretation of my words. But you can be sure, that my intention was positive.

Of course I own the Wenzinger set too. Got it many years ago on vinyl, but I have transferred it to CD by means of a CD-recorder. It has never, as far as I know, been released on CD commercially , rather surprising, given the many other old recordings DG rereleases. What doesn´t surprise though, is, that Lindes recording is held much in Wenzingers spirit, and that they to some extent share virtues. You know, Linde has been attached to Schola Cantorum Basiliensis for some time, and the Linde Ensemble consists partially of musicians from that school. And Lindes recorder teacher Gustav Scheck had a longtime collaboration with Wenzinger and is featured on his Brandenburg set. Since it is out of sale, I can make a copy for you of this too, if you want.

Kind regards,
Poul
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by Ian G.
Fredrik,

Thanks for the pointers - I'll try to track some of those down over the weekend.

regards

Ian
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Anybody want to start a Violent Femmes thread ?
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by pe-zulu
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Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:
Anybody want to start a Violent Femmes thread ?


Perhaps you want to, and you certainly possess the eloquence to start the thread in a persuasive manner.
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Thank you kindly Madam, I would if I could, but I can't Smile
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by pe-zulu
quote:
Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:
Thank you kindly Madam, I would if I could, but I can't Smile


Don´t call me "Madam". I am as much a man as I suppose you are.
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
Dear Fritz,

Your posts make for entertaining reading, on occasion. But this is largely a Bach Thread, which is probably a bit boring for some...

Thanks for posting, but it is a long way off topic I think!

Kindest regards, Fredrik
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
Dear Poul,

Would you prefer to take this discussion off-line? If so we shall have to find a way of sharing emails addresses, and then we could exchange some fine recordings.

I think it can be quite hard to argue with people you seem only to want to be contrary. I am sorry about the above...

Yours sincerely, Fredrik
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
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Originally posted by IanGtoo:
Fredrik,

Thanks for the pointers - I'll try to track some of those down over the weekend.

regards

Ian


Do post you responses here, if you like, Fred
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by pe-zulu
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Originally posted by Fredrik H:
Would you prefer to take this discussion off-line? If so send me an email
Fredrik

Dear Fredrik
I have just sent you an e-mail.
Regards,Poul
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
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Originally posted by pe-zulu:
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Originally posted by Fredrik H:
Would you prefer to take this discussion off-line? If so send me an email
Fredrik

Dear Fredrik
I have just sent you an e-mail.
Regards,Poul


And I have just emended my post with the address as I did not want it on the Forum for very long! I hoped you would see it in time!!!

Fredrik
Posted on: 12 August 2005 by pe-zulu
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Originally posted by Fredrik H:
And I have just emended my post with the address as I did not want it on the Forum for very long! I hoped you would see it in time!!!
Fredrik


I had some idea about that, and of course I didn´t quote the post with the address in full.
Poul
Posted on: 13 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
Dear Ian,

Please refer to the now unfortunately edited version of my last post to you. It has lost all the other recomendations but gained a thought on starting on the Organ music. Never mind. I am no good at driving computers!

Fredrik
Posted on: 15 August 2005 by JamH
Dear Fredrik,

Thanks for this thread -- I tend to listen to Bach's 48 starting at No.1 and never really get to No. 24 [or start at part 2 with No. 25 etc.].
[I don't really know them, unlike the Beethoven sonatas -- which I know -- where nobody would play them all from 1-32 in a single session].


I think I should start selecting some of the preludes and fugues rather than playing the CD's from the start.


I have a few versions of this music including Gould and Martins [sorry !!] and I really prefere the piano. [I have a harpsicord version].


Thanks again for a great thread.

James H.

P.S. In summary -- I will start to listen to the preludes and fugues out of order.

ends===
Posted on: 16 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
Dear James,

I am sure that starting elsewhwere than the begining is a very good idea. I tend to listen to them in 12s from the begining or the exact half-way point in either book. I think an hour of fugues is pretty much the maximum, even for someone who loves them, but often I listen to an isolated one or just six. It may take years to really get to love them all, though some will come very quickly. In fact my original three posts may be of some very small assistance in choising likely candidates for early study, or the writung may convince you I am a nutter!

Good luck with them from Fredrik
Posted on: 16 August 2005 by Ian G.
Fredrik,

Any chance you could repost your earlier recommendations,just the names/labels would be enough - I couldn't find them at the first trawl through my usual cheap CD sites and now I forget the details. One becomes too trusting of the reliability of the internet.

I'm hoping that some excellent Bach might even persuade my beloved that there is more to classical music than her beloved Russians.

thanks again,

Ian
Posted on: 16 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
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Originally posted by IanGtoo:
Fredrik,

Any chance you could repost your earlier recommendations,....

thanks again,

Ian


A quick list. I edited the post by mistake sorry!

Violin Concertos In A Minor, E Major and for Two Violin in D Minor: Oistrack (DG Originals), and Grumiaux (on Philips)

Branden berg Concertos:

Hans Martin Linde Consort: Virgin or EMI

Orchestral Suites: Linde on EMI or
Kuijken on Duetche Harmonia Mundi.

Sample of Organ Music: Hurford on Decca Double. (Hurford I have some reservations about, but this is a good starter pack).

Magnificat in D Major. Jesus Luis Corboz (conductor) on Erato.

Keybord Concertos JM Pires on Erato.

All excpt the Organ selection absolutely top performances, and getting the best on the Organ means buying and integral set for between GBP 70 and 140

Hope that helps, Fredrik
Posted on: 16 August 2005 by Ian G.
fantastic - now printed out ! Smile


edit ... An hour of surfing later and at least the Brandenburg and the Orchestral CD's seem to be deleted. Does this surprise you??

ian