Future classics

I'm in full agreement with Bhoyo, even if no one else is.

Love,
Bhoyo

Sorry, don't agree Bhoyo.

Ok I like it, it's quite a good album, but not up with the others you quote, I certainly don't find myself going back to it again and again. In this genre there are too many other contenders:

Calexico - Feast of Fire
Grand Drive - True Love and High Adventure

Both these are superior (IMO)

As for other recent clasics:
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - By The Way is a front runner for me.

Nick:

I've read your old thread, and see exactly what you mean.

Greeny:

Calexico has been on my "must buy" list for some time. But it's staggering how, er, marital upheaval can mess with the old disposable income.

Alex:

I haven't heard Think Tank. My favourite Blur album is 13, if only for the amazing Bugman.

From the last 15 years I'd nominate:

Public Enemy- It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Beastie Boys- Paul's Boutique
Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted
Flaming Lips- The Soft Bulletin, or Clouds Taste Metallic
Massive Attack- Blue Lines

I might also add something from PJ Harvey, Wilco, and The Pixies. The first Wu-Tang album too (What do you want, I'm from New York ).

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Originally posted by Ludwig:
From the last 15 years I'd nominate:

Public Enemy- It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Beastie Boys- Paul's Boutique
Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted
Flaming Lips- The Soft Bulletin, or Clouds Taste Metallic
Massive Attack- Blue Lines

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If we are going that far back I think there would be loads, I don't particularly like any of these selections but accept that they could be considered classic, they all made a significant impact and are still bought (and talked about).

On reflection of my RCHP candidate above I don't think it had as big an impact as some of these (though did sell very well, so had some sort of impact).

Nicks right though, whose to say what from the last 2 years (say) will still be talked about and bought in 10 years time.

definates for me would be
Nick Cave- no more shall we part
PjHarvey- stories from the sea
and one that keep coming back David Sylvian secrets of the beehive (already a classic). I have over 3000 and these just fit my frame of mind today but all 3 are as good as it gets for this type of stuff.

Alex

Thank you.

Chrs

Ludwig

My nomination,

Madonna - Ray of Light.

In years to come I think it will be seen as the pinacle of her career.

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Originally posted by trickytree:
My nomination,

Madonna - Ray of Light.

In years to come I think it will be seen as the pinacle of her career.

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That still won't make it a classic.

The album I play most from the last couple of years is Wilco "YHF" so on that basis it gets my vote.

Simon

Lots of albums I rate (many mentioned above) but perhaps if one is to be considered a classic it needs to capture a particular moment or genre. Maybe it needs to reach across the usual consituency for that genre too.

On those grounds I'd nominate Nirvana-Nevermind and maybe REM Automatic for The People.

Bruce

I happened to be thinking about classics from the last several years tonight (while feeling very sensitive and emotional, keep in mind), and thought I'd post my very personal thoughts. Of course, "classic" is open for numerous interpretations. The focus here is readily available US indie-oriented pop, for the most part, and albums the Led Zep/ Deep Purple/ Pink Floyd/ etc crowd might like (my dad as the litmus test).

Belle & Sebastian "If You're Feeling Sinister" - Effeminate and playful, but just plain perfect singalong pop from start to finish.

Wilco "Mermaid Avenue, Volume I" - Something about this album strikes a chord with my rural upbringing. "California Stars" makes me weep like a girl for reasons unknown.

Whiskeytown "Strangers Almanac", or Ryan Adams "Heartbreaker" - Alt.country perfection, even exceeding Uncle Tupelo "Anodyne".

Yo La Tengo "I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One" - The most beautiful pop record of my adulthood, IMVHO.

Yo La Tengo "And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out" - Not quite the above achievemnt, but still better than 99% of what's out there.

Grandaddy "Under the Western Freeway" - Anyone who adds twirts and beeps to stoner tunes and sings about drinking beer under the stars, and physical dimensions of trees, deserves recognition. Flawless.

Flaming Lips "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots", or "The Soft Bulletin" - The peak of US indie-psychedelia, perhaps the nod goes to YBTPR, simply because the songs are so fun and goofy.

Liars "They threw us in a trench and stuck a monument on top" - So many things here (experimental post-punk but very accessible), I don't know what to say other than buy it.

Interpol "Turn On the Bright Lights" - Gets better with each listen, despite being artsy-nostalgic for New Order/Joy Division fans.

Pretty Girls Make Graves "Good Health" - Skillfully done power pop. No, not just because they're from Seattle.

New Pornographers "Mass Romantic" - See above (except they're from Vancouver).

Tool "Aenima" - For days when punk is too girly.

Runners-up: A few from Pavement, Wilco, Exploding Hearts, Built to Spill, The Notwist, Microphones, Unwound, Sleater-Kinney, The Avalanches.

For a start I'd have to disagree with Greeny about By The Way by the Chilli Peppers. I have most if not all of their stuff, and I thought this one was dire (re-make of Californication). I went to see them when they toured this ablbum, and their crowd had changed from the usual rock crowd, to teenies and smartly dressed couples. Something to do with them becoming mainstream I think. They were off that night and I shan't bother seeing them again now. Must have seen them 5 times previously.

I have to agree with Tricktree about Ray of Light. Never a Madonna fan - in fact the opposite, but this is a true product of genius and I never want to be without it. I think it's personal to me though, 'cos I had a daughter around the same time as her, and it reflects what I felt too. For me it's a classic.

My nomination would be KLF - Chill Out.

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I have most if not all of their stuff, and I thought this one was dire (re-make of Californication). I went to see them when they toured this ablbum, and their crowd had changed from the usual rock crowd, to teenies and smartly dressed couples.

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Just because they've alienated you doesn't mean the album isn't good. Are you implying that smartly dressed couples can not have good music taste, or the definition of a good album is that it does not have any mainstream success??

I also have most of RHCP's output but think By the Way is their best.

Bhoyo,

Why Beck's "Sea Change" and not the (IMO) much more obvious "Odeley"? Eight years out and Odeley already shows promise of standing the test of time; if you listen to it it's striking how much music now sounds like Odeley did then, only usually not as good.

Mekon,
As it happens I listened again to Public Enemy's Nation of Millions quite recently; until 2001 it was the last rap album I had bought or heard.
I have to say I'm no longer sure it holds up so well. In retrospect it seems a lot tamer and more careful than it did then and, frankly, I started getting a bit bored listening to it. Have you heard it recently. It was a bit of a surprise to hear it now.

Eric

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Originally posted by ejl:
Bhoyo,
Why Beck's "Sea Change" and not the (IMO) much more obvious "Odeley"?

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I still love Odelay, although there are couple of things on it that really grate. Sea Change is way less inventive, but (IMO) way more beautiful. I'm a sucker for all that broken-hearted moping. Good tunes, and an excellent recording too.

Davie

In the last ten years:

I agree with the honored member who suggests Tool. However their classic is not aenima, rather it is imho "Undertow".

Another clssic when Nirvana is long forgotten is "Appetite for Destruction" by Guns n Roses.

Pearl Jams "Ten" is a masterpiece


Oh! and "rage against the machine"


Mick Jaggers "Wandering Spirit" will become a classic.

Vaya con Dios "vaya con dios".

I do not belive that any britpop will qualify. it is nostalgia, has nothing new, different or exiting about it, and is bettered in every way by the originals. (Allthough some may disagree).

When it comes to pop music, I think that it is single songs, rather than albums that will make it into the hall of classics.

Roxette "The look", madonna "Like a prayer", EMF "you're unbelieveable", Edwyn Collins "A girl like you", Run DMC "its like that", Britney Spears "hit me baby one more time", Right said Fred "Too sexy",
All of the above will make it, I'm sure. And many more of course.
As Sabrinas "Boys, boys boys" is a classic today: You never can tell!

Regards

"Damn braces; bless relaxes"

top of the list for me is:

aphex twin - selected ambientworks 85-92

every track is fantastic.

as for public enemy albums - i prefer fear of a black planet. good choices whoever mentioned that and the pixies tho.

not sure about *smirk* pearl jam or *even larger smirk* GNFR.



one man's meat is another man's poison and all that.