New Led Zep remaster soon.

So not the 'Reremasters' then

regards, Tam

Really? Shows how much attention I've been paying.

Actually, thinking back to when I bought the Remasters, it makes me feel a bit old.

regards, Tam

I need flippin' Remastering can anyone suggest a good technician

I remember the 1st remasters around 1990. I don't remember any since then, and would have thought that Warners would have brought any subsequent remasters to my attention.

Mark S

quote:

Originally posted by munch:
They have remastered the remaster twice.Good news about the gig though Howard.
Munch.

You mean re-issued then?

Mark S

and then the whole catalogue was re-mastered (with good results) around 2000, IIRC.

Yeah. Unfortunately with cardboard sleeves that could damage the CDs when you took them out. A good effort sound wise though.

Cheers

I'm not entirely convinced that any remastering has been performed since c.1990. If anyone can tell me when the 2nd remastering was done, and by whom, I'd be interested to learn more, otherwise I suspect it is just an urban myth or wishful thinking.

Mark S

Harry! haven't seen you post here for a good while! How's the system?

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Originally posted by cider glider:
I'm not entirely convinced that any remastering has been performed since c.1990. If anyone can tell me when the 2nd remastering was done, and by whom, I'd be interested to learn more, otherwise I suspect it is just an urban myth or wishful thinking.

Mark S

They were remastered in the mid 90's with Jimmy Page at the helm. These were streets better than the Atlantic Lp's and the ones to get IMHO.



Sanch

quote:

Originally posted by Chris Kelly:
Harry! haven't seen you post here for a good while! How's the system?

It’s absolutely soaring and providing endless pleasure Chris. I hope yours is too – thanks for asking

The gen for 1 is: UK remastered reissue of 1969 album, packaged in a limited edition miniature LP sleeve. 9 tracks. Warner. 2003. UPC(Barcode) 0075678263255

2 is 0075678263354. 3 was done also – don’t know about the others.

They are cleaner and with more dynamic range. Not totally transformed by any means but I can’t resist those mini LPs.

Vinyl remasters (or possibly just reissues) came out around the same time. I ordered LZ1 by mistake but spotted it before it shipped. I’d recommend hmv.co.jp for a look at the all formats and specs.

Cheers

Harry,

Is your system still as stated in your profile? If so, how's the Graaf been in terms of ownership?

I'm intrigued to hear that the Led Zep cardboard editions sound better - I tried a couple of the Kate Bush vinyl replica discs and they were worse if anything.

Steve

Yes Steve I think you’re absolutely right about Her Kateness. The Kick Inside was no different from the bog original, thinner if anything. But The Dreaming really was a good effort – well worth the outlay. Haven’t tried any of her others because of the 50% failure rate.

The Graaf has been a classic case of fit and forget. No issues at all. It needs to run for half an hour before it hits the sweet spot. It’s difficult to sing its praises highly enough, plus there’s always the danger that I’ll be perceived as just trying to justify my choice. Well let’s put it this way, I REALLY wanted that 282/250 but the Italian upstart gave them a good hiding – in our room/ears/system (I stress). I think the biggest factor of the three was the room – it can be difficult to tune into.

For the most part it’s very “un valve” like (if you get what I mean) yet with that almost magical texture that you feel you can reach out and touch. It’s also very fast footed in the bass and very authoritative at the same time – when it needs to be. Unforced power, clarity and scale on tap with no loss of subtlety. Imaging ain’t bad either although TBH I’ve always thought Naim CDPs had the imaging side of things about right.

It’s a wonderful match for the CDX2/XPS2 in our room and will easily take a CDS3 (we’ve done the audition). I believe that Naim CDPs can mate really well with a well designed box of toobs. But each to our own.

Cheers

Hi Harry,

Yes it was The Kick Inside and Sensual World - 100% failure rate I'm afraid.

Very interested in your experience Harry, because I have a CDS2/XPS2 feeding a Berning ZH270 and the results are as you describe, even down to the half hour warm-up.

I have tried some different CDPs out of curiosity and enjoyed the Opus 21 in particular, but the CDS2 is a terrific match and it really has been a case of fit and forget.

I consider I've got everything I liked about my 52/250.2, plus a load more transparency and, err, PRaT. The one box solution is appreciated too.

Back on topic, did they release Physical Graffiti in that series of re-masters?

Regards,

Steve

Yes. One box (particularly a glowing one) does not compute – but like you I am so happy with the result that I’m just enjoying the music and not fidgeting about the next tweak or upgrade (although a CDS3 will come at some point – possibly a distant one). I would very much have liked to audition an Opus21 when we were buying the bare CDX2, but the performance of the latter was so compelling that it didn’t seem worth the shoe leather. One happy side effect of the Graaf subsequently coming in well under our Amp budget was that funds were available for the XPS2 – probably the more balanced result.

So far as PG goes, Amazon.com has it as “UK remastered reissue of 1975 album, packaged in a limited edition miniature LP sleeve with original die-cut artwork. 15 tracks. Warner. 2003.” Audio CD (June 9, 2003), Number of Discs: 1, Label: Wea International, ASIN: B00005J8JL. I wasn’t convinced because of it being a single CD. There is a 2005 reissue which is on two CDs. A potential minefield for the confused or myopic surfer (like me)! Something tells me that we’re at a half way stage and that there will be some definitive remasters out in due course. Although 1 in particular does sound pretty fresh. So I’m happy.

If you do have a punt and like it, please shout. Don’t know about you but sound quality seems to be a bigger lottery than ever nowadays – I am tending more and more to hold back until someone can tell me the result. Although I did lose control and buy the MF remaster of Fragile on spec. No worries – it’s a cracker.

Cheers

Steve,

Yes, Physical Graffiti is available in the vinyl replica format, with 2 discs. It has all the gubbins that ccame with the original - a marvel of modern miniaturisation! I think the sleeves of the vinyl replicas are printed in Japan, not sure about the discs themselves.

I did read that Jimmy Page favoured valve amps (for guitars) because he liked seeing the valves glow more brightly when he struck a chord.

Mark S

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Don’t know about you but sound quality seems to be a bigger lottery than ever nowadays

Agreed. I usually do the Amazon.com thing with "new & used" copies of US issues. I find them better, particularly for US artists and the dollar is making them dead cheap even with $6 postage. Where I have been able to compare with the Euro copy - the US is often better, usually by a significant amount. John (JN on here) put me on to that and it's paid dividends with artists like Jackson Browne, James Taylor, RLJ, Joni Mitchell etc.

I don't buy audiophile discs unless they are a) cheap or b) a real favourite. Consequently I have about three or four only. The difference can be pretty marginal, which proves your point about it being a bit of a lottery. I have Live at the Regal by BB King which is good, but the US remaster was no slouch anyway.

One thought occurs. It took CD to appear to put some vinyl production back on course, so perhaps the downloads will mean that CD has to smarten up a bit. Recent issues do, by and large seem a lot better than early ones. There are exceptions both ways, of course. But as a trend I would say I get many more good ones now.

Regards,

Steve

I go to America first, Japan second and UK as a last resort for off the shelf CDs. At the moment I’m benefiting price wise, but over a lifetime of collecting it probably averages out. I’ve done some “side by sides” – I don’t need any more convincing!

That the compilation is on Rhino is encouraging. I’m going to wait for the next full catalogue.

Cheers

What a badly designed web site that JP one is.

Quote : munch "JP has nothing to do with it."

I didn't say he did,I saw the disclaimer. I was just commenting on the listed site layout.
It was about JP though.

Howard