What are some of the best classical piano recordings?

Posted by: kentonious on 19 February 2002

Looking for quality in performance and recording quality, particulary Bach, Mozart, and Chopin. Thanks.
Posted on: 19 February 2002 by herm
Bach, Mozart, Chopin

For short may I call you Ken?

Bach lately Murray Perahia has been recording Bach concertos and the Goldberg Variations on Sony, and he's garnered a lot of praise. I have to confess I like Andras Schiff better, musically, though perhaps the Decca sound is not as brilliant.

(And to be brutally honest, I have no problem listening to Bach on the harpsichord: he composed on and for an instrument with that kind of speed. And in that context I'd firmly want to dissuade you to get Glenn Gould, whose extremely contrived recordings usually are found on shelves that are devoid of any other classical: he's the Elvis of Bach on piano.)

Chopin: Scherzi: Pollini, or Ivan Moravec (Dorian)
Nocturnes: 1962 Rubinstein, or Maria Joao Pires
Preludes: Ashkenazy
Etudes: Boris Berozovsky or old Pollini
Sonatas 2 & 3: maybe Pollini
Concerti: Zimerman with his own orchestra


Mozart: complete sonatas: some like Maria Joao Pires, some like Uchida. The latter is a little more overtly romantic. The sonatas are really tough to perform in the studio. Still you at least want to have the sonatas above KV 300, and you especially need the Fantasy in D 397 (Pires) and C 475 (Uchida).

In the concertos I'd recommend Uchida easily over say Perahia (his recording is also marred by crappy early digital sound).

Herman

Posted on: 19 February 2002 by kentonious
Thanks so much--I'll investigate these. You
are so right about Gould on Bach--I have
his keyboard concertos--lots of hiss on
the CD remastering, but his joyous intensity,
esp. on the last movements is astounding.

Wanted to mention a couple of my favorite recordings(different composers, but I love romantic).

Liszt--Piano Concertos 1&2,Totentanz with
Krystian Zimmeran/Seiji Ozawa, Deutsche Grammophone

Saint-Saens--Piano Concertos 2&4--Jean-Philippe Collard and Andre Previn, EMI

Posted on: 20 February 2002 by herm
we're talking about the entire literature?

Hi Ken,

Somehow we seem to agree about Gould's Bach and still feel different about him. I was saying it's a bad idea to listen to Gould: it's not easy to appreciate Bach the way it should be played after getting used to his radical interpretations. Nonetheless, if you like him, good for you.

I had not noticed the "particularly" in you inquiry. so were not just talking about Bach, Mozart and Chopin, but about the enitre literature?

Well, I had wanted to refer you to the Schumann thread a little further down the line. If you're interested in Chopin you should listen to Schumann's early piano works too.

And in Chopin I forgot the Ballades, another major work (the sonatas and the concertos somehow are not major). Rubinstein (sixties recording) and Perahia are outstanding.

And, you know, Haydn's mature sonatass are better than Mozart's sonatas under K 300. Alfred Brendel has a great four disc set on Philips, and Andras Schiff, more calm and collected, has a two disc collection on Teldec.

Brahms: Radu Lupu recorded two decca discs of Brahms solo works. Whatever Lupu does is bound to be good (i.e. his Schubert).

In all recommendations I'm figuring you prefer clean digital recordings.

Ross has covered some of the 20th Century. Still I'd say:
Ravell: Pascal Roge (cheap Decca)
Prokofiev: 7 & 8 Pletnev on DG; concertos Toradze / Gergiev on Philips

A disc I cannot keep myself from recommending if were talking about near-contemporary stuff is Peter Serkin playing Webern, Messiaen, Takemitsu, Wuorinen en Knussen on a Koch International disc titled The Ocean that has no East and no West. All music included is romantic in inspiration and wonderfully executed by a very interesting musician.

And meanwhile I'm wondering where Todd is. Did the CDX eat him? wink

Bye now

Herman

Posted on: 20 February 2002 by kentonious
but I am most picky on Bach, Mozart, and Chopin.
I play piano and teach--so these are very close
to my heart. I studied with the late Lili
Kraus--I don't know if you are familiar with her.
I need to find out if her Mozart(complete sonatas
and piano concerti have been remastered to CD).
Maybe I should go down the street and get a Linn turntable! Thanks for all the great info.

Yes, Gould is eccentric on the Bach, but when
it is heartfelt, I love it. I also like
Weisenburg--very different--sometimes rigid,
but another approach.

Posted on: 20 February 2002 by Todd A
Many excellent selections have been named so far, so I'll add only a few:

Murray Perahia's recordings of Bach's English Suites deserve mention here. Not as wonderful as the other recent titles, but worth hearing.

Andras Schiff's recording of Smetana Polkas is a wonderful album, both musically and sonically.

I did not see Pollini's Polonaises mentioned, so I will mention those. Pollini in all his "steel fingered" glory.

Piotr Anderszewski recorded a fine Diabelli Variations on Virgin.

What? No Ligeti yet? Try Pierre-Laurent Aimard's Etudes on Sony. A must-have, as far as I am concerned.

For those who can handle older mono sound, there is always the complete Ravel set recorded by Robert Casadesus on Sony. Since it has been deleted, snap it up while you can.

Now I think I must listen to some piano music.

Posted on: 26 February 2002 by Darius
Hi,
according to Bach I admire Das Wohltemperierte Klavier in S. Richter recording. I think it is RCA label. May be from technical point of view it is not on the top but performance is outstanding.
Goldberg Variations and Die Kunst der Fuge in T. Nikolaeva/Hyperion recording. In this case performance as wel as technical side is OK.
Chopin Preludes op. 28. It is really fantastic. I prefer Arrau recordings for Philips.
Chopin's piano concertos have been recorded by Zimmerman and PFO. Sounds very fine.
As we talk about piano concertos safe bet is Brahms Second with Gilels/Jochum. I definitely prefer Second over First concierto.
Bye...
Posted on: 26 February 2002 by ken c
darius, talking about Sviatoslav Teofilovich Richter, please see:

http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=67019385&f=38019385&m=3881937712

assuming we are talking about the same artist, i shall follow up your recommendation too.

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 26 February 2002 by ken c
... what about dinu lipatti doing chopin's 14 waltzes on emi. sound quality leaves a lot to be desired but very good music indeed. i thank whoever recommended this to me...

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 26 February 2002 by Darius
Yes Ken,
we are talking about the same artist.
Thank you for interesting link.
I am not surprised to find many Richter's afficionados.
Well tempered klavier is a 4-cd set labelled RCA Victor Gold Seal, and I liked it much more than Glen Gould WTK-recordings. But, of course, it is a matter of taste only...
Another very interesting Richter's position is Tschaikovski First piano concerto b op.23 with Karajan/Wiener Philh. recorded 1963. Reissued by DG/The Originals. Of course it is not Bach, Chopin or Mozart, but it sounds fantastic
Bye...