Freddie Hubbard

Posted by: Cheese on 17 August 2001

Think he's big fun, but I don't know too many of his records ... I just own an excellent performance on some Art Blakey live recording, as well as one of his (fortunately long forgotten) solo records.

I'm sure there must be lots of excellent material around - thanks for any suggestions.

BTW as usual, I'm very fond of live stuff.

Cheese - may all beings be happy smile

Posted on: 17 August 2001 by ken c
try "hub-tones" on blue note. i liked it.

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 17 August 2001 by John C
By some strange coincidence Im listening to Open Sesame right now, my favourite of his 60s bluenotes. The early Bluenotes like HubTones, Ready for Freddie etc are all excellent . The later Red Clay or The Artistry of Hubbard are good too. In the 80s some time I believe Freddie lost his chops and I havent heard any of his more recent stuff. He is ubiquitous as a sideman on many Bluenote hardbop releases of the sixties but also makes a pretty good fist of his role on Ornette Colemans Free Jazz and on Dolphys Out to lunch.

John

Posted on: 18 August 2001 by Cheese
One of the good points in this forum is that it helps me to improve my English, so I have three questions IYDM:

- In the above phrase, does the word "English" really have to be written in capitals ? And what about "I speak English" and "my friend is English" ?

- "It helps me to improve" or "It helps me improving" ?

- and "he lost his chops" ??? I guess it means "he turned nuts" ?

That would be too big a loss.

Cheese - may all beings be happy smile

Posted on: 18 August 2001 by Peter Litwack
John C

You have shown your great taste in Jazz yet again. Open Sesame is indeed one of the greatest of Freddie Hubbard's albums. Featuring the great Tina Brooks on tenor sax, this session really cooks! Along with Jackie McLean, Tina Brooks is one of the most underrated sax players out there. Check out Brooks' Minor Move, and Jackie McLean's Destination Out, that is, if you don't already own them. cool

Posted on: 20 August 2001 by Tony L
A truly great trumpeter. I'll give another vote for 'Hubcap' and 'Hub tones' both on Blue Note, both of which I have on vinyl.

Freddie Hubbard also made a stunning contribution to many of my favourite jazz albums:

'Blues and the abstract truth' Oliver Nelson
'Out to lunch' Eric Dolphy
'Takin' off' and 'Maiden Voyage' Herbie Hancock
'Doin' alright' Dexter Gordon
'Free jazz' Ornette Coleman
'Components' by Bobby Hutchinson
'Quintessence' Quincy Jones
'Mosaic' Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers

Check out the entry in www.allmusic.com The list of stuff he has played on is almost endless.

Tony.

Posted on: 20 August 2001 by John C
Im no musician but believe " Chops" refers to the contact of the lips with the trumpet mouthpiece, the embrochure. I believe Freddie damaged his lips/mouth from years of constant playing and displays of his extraordinary technical facility.Ever seen a picture of Louis Armstrongs lips in his later years? They resembled a rugby players ears. Chops as a term has been expanded to mean a musicians technical facility or in sporting parlance his current form, and can even be used to describe guitarists etc. When you look at Tonys list thats a pretty damn good line up of records, all essential in any jazz collection.On trumpeters in general I think my favourites are Louis obviously but Clifford Brown , Fats Navarro and Lee Morgan ..oh and that other guy was good too. Anyone got other trumpet favourites?

Peter I am a closet Jackie Maclean fan and love Destination Out, Let Freedom Ring but One Step Beyond just shades it for me at the moment. Hard to believe they were considered to be "Out"records really. Anything with the great, great Bobby Hutcherson on it from those years is essential. There are no Tina Brooks in my collection but I have salivated over the mosaic LP box set in a local used store, just cant afford it yet.

John

ps Any of you jazz vinyl fans who are interested should look at www.molejazz.co.uk for their current auction. Basically you bid on a record and highest bid wins (single bids closed auction). Some tantalising jazz vinyl there!

.

Posted on: 21 August 2001 by SaturnSF
I suppose I could surf on over to AMG to research this, but I'm guessing his Blue Note years came before his run at CTI. "Red Clay" is a good one, but I picked up a couple other CTI ones in a bargain bin some time ago, and found that they, like a lot of other stuff on CTI, is over-arranged to the point of being slick, and contains a lot of filler. I wonder what happened to this label by the way. It had a lot of other big names on it such as George Benson, and even had a subsidiary label, Kudu, that released a bunch of killer Esther Phillips LPs, among other things. Maybe they just fizzled out, but a lot of these old labels exist as a back-catalog branch of some major these days,and I don't think that has happened to CTI.