Internal rewiring of speakers using Nac A5

Posted by: nodrog on 02 March 2002

Just a thought, as I took my speakers (Rocksolids) apart to put some extra damping inside and just 'have a look around'. It seems as if it may be possible to replace the internal wiring fairly easily.
I am not interested in new speakers as I have zero money. However, I do have a soldering iron. Would it be a worthwhile upgrade to replace internal wiring with, ideally, NacA5, if I can get hold of some (which is a whole other question)

Thankyou,

Peter Gordon

Posted on: 02 March 2002 by Simon B
Peter,
I think you will have a hell of a time doing this with A5. I have read here that others resorted to using A4. Try doing a search on A4.

Regards

Simon

Posted on: 02 March 2002 by Ron Toolsie
I've never tried NACA 5 internally, but years back I did redo a speaker with NACA4- prior to that I had used the then vogue 'twin-and-earth' solid core, which in turn had replaced some generic 79-strand stuff. There was no doubt that the NACA 4 was orders less coloured and more extended than the twin and earth. It wasn't *that* hard to solder either. NACA5 will be far harder, especially trying to get good integrity on the tweeter units.
But remember even Naim doesnt use NACA internally (at least not on the DBLs)- instead they use something somewhat easier to work with, that allegedly does a better job (many internal wires were tried within the DBLs). This internal wiring is also cheaper and more readily available. I had a dealer rewire a pair of my Tukans with it and MAMA MIA... is it good. It is about as high tech as the preamp-to-amp cables that the 135/250 uses, but don't let its urban appearance dissuade you.

Ron
Dum spiro audio
Dum audio vivo


Posted on: 02 March 2002 by nodrog
'It is about as high tech as the preamp-to-amp cables that the 135/250 uses, but don't let its urban appearance dissuade you.'

I am confused, Ron. What is this 'it' you speak of?
In fact I will probably be unable to get NACA5 in Japan, so alternative suggestions are welcome.

Thanks

Peter Gordon

Posted on: 02 March 2002 by David Dever
Why not phone your washing-machine repair person to obtain some internal appliance wire?
Posted on: 02 March 2002 by Ron Toolsie
quote:
I am confused, Ron. What is this 'it' you speak of?
In fact I will probably be unable to get NACA5 in Japan, so alternative suggestions are welcome.

It is well known that the 250/135 signal cable is nothing more/less than simple unscreened mains flex. No fancy geometry, no fancy dialectric, no cryogenic treatments.But it works, and works damn well. It may be less well known that the internal wire of DBLs is/was simple 'cooker wire', or that multistranded stuff you hook up high amperage electric stoves and tumble driers internally with. I've seen essentially identical wire at local hardware shops, although Naim may preselect specific vendors/reels for this.

Oooo-er.. beaten to the punch by DD from NANA (see above).

Ron
Dum spiro audio
Dum audio vivo

Posted on: 02 March 2002 by DAVOhorn
Dear All,

I am totally convinced that if you use a single type of speaker wire from output terminals of amp through x over onto drive units it is one of the most cost effective upgrades that you can make.

It really is worth the effort of doing this.

Most commercial speakers use junk wire internally and in the x over so upgrading to a good quality of wire can only be beneficial. More so when you are using the same cable as the speaker wire.

I have done this for 3 of my 4 systems. The only one that has not been done is the av system as the cost of wiring 6 speakers and xovers is too high.

So next step is strip down measure up and buy the cable of choice and then install.

Should be marked improvement.

regards david

Posted on: 02 March 2002 by Manu
Naca5 is not a good idea for internal wiring.
The cable is too stiff. Even if you can solder it corectly to the speakers, it imposes too much stress on the speaker posts.
Believe me, I've done it. Speaker Post supports end to break.
NACA4 is perfect.

Emmanuel