Pure Vinyl

Posted by: Jack on 14 July 2010

Anybody using Pure Vinyl for recording their vinyl to hard disk?

I would be really interested in the results and any comparisons against alternatives if anyone can share?

Cheers

Jack
Posted on: 14 July 2010 by Obsessed1
Will be purchasing once my NAS arrives. Stay tuned.
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by Geoff P
Do you need a MAC desktop with a swish sound card to do this well or can you get a good result with a MAC portable's built in sound procesing?... and what conection ( eg USB) to use on a Mac?

Asked by a PC slave who thinks this maybe THE REASON at last for swapping to MAC.
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by Eloise
quote:
Originally posted by Geoff P:
Do you need a MAC desktop with a swish sound card to do this well or can you get a good result with a MAC portable's built in sound procesing?... and what conection ( eg USB) to use on a Mac?

Asked by a PC slave who thinks this maybe THE REASON at last for swapping to MAC.

You'll probably want some form of external sound"card" for archiving your vinyl. This can start at something like M-Audio Pro-Fire 600 (around £300), though an RME FireFace 400 (£1000) on up to more studio grade equipment such as Metric Halo ULN8, Lynx Aurora FW, Apogee Rosetta + FW. It all depends on the quality of the A-D conversion you want.

For output, can either use a digital (or analogue) output from the same FireWire device, or use a more basic M2Tech HiFace into a DAC (such as the Naim DAC).

Eloise
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by Geoff P
THks Guys

Sorry for posting the same question on two different threads. Excellent info

regards
Geoff
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by Obsessed1
I'm hoping that my TC electronic's Konnekt8 will suffice for A/D and D/A duties (which connects via firewire to my iMAc).
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by Jack
I would have thought the Konnekt8 will be fine, indeed, it's mentioned on the Pure Vinyl site. I have a Focusrite Sapphire PRO/24 myself.

It seems like a low output MC cartridge is likely to get best results according to their website.
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by MontyMusic
how do you hook up your turntable to the interface? The RCA connectors would need an adaptor?
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by Jack
That's correct. you need a couple of RCA/TRS adapters to connect it to the audio interface e.g. Konnekt
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by Eloise
quote:
Originally posted by MontyMusic:
how do you hook up your turntable to the interface? The RCA connectors would need an adaptor?

I think Pure Vinyls recommendation is connecting the output of your cartridge to Mic inputs of your ADC. Pure Vinyl then do the RIAA equalisation digitally.

You may need some additional pre-amplification depending on the output level of the cartridge.

Eloise

P.S. It's difficult to find but there is a "how-to" guide on Pure Vinyls website --
Posted on: 16 July 2010 by Eloise
Sorry - posted that last message quickly last night but didnt include the link ... the FAQ I was referring to is -- Pure Vinyl FAQ
Posted on: 16 July 2010 by Jack
I understand one way to do this (which seems pretty standard with PV) is to connect the phone output connectors from your turntable to the inputs of an audio interface e.g. Konnekt (you would need 2 TRS adapters to do this). You would then use the gain control of your audio interface to control the signal level into PV where you would then do the RIAA in software.

Specialised cables are available for the connection between turntable and audio interface once the cartridge characteristics are known.


What I'm interested in is how much better is the recorded vinyl final product by doing the RIAA in software rather than through standard hi-fi kit?

Cheers

Jack
Posted on: 17 July 2010 by pcstockton
I am so lucky two people, who had nice gear and wanted to rip my vinyl for their collection, offered to help me do it. I lent them vinyl and they gave it back with DVDs of 24-96 FLACS. Money.

They both put a lot of effort into it and they sound fabulous.

One used Wavelab and a ESI Julia (why I bought one), the other i dont recall.
Posted on: 07 August 2010 by Obsessed1
Finally took the plunge and tried the Pure Vinyl free download. I have dps3 connected to an Audia Flight phono preamp, the balanced outputs of which are connected to a TC Konnekt8 inputs, then firewire into my iMac.

What a hoot! I was terrified that it would be something only a computer "expert" would be able to handle, but I had recorded my first track to my NAS in about 10 minutes. It is very easy and intuitive to operate.

Sounds pretty darned good, too.