Best Recordings / Worst recordings
Posted by: Trevp on 04 February 2009
Hi everyone,
Most of my "rock" collection of music is currently on vinyl, but I thought it would be fun to select the best and worst of my collection of "rock" CDs (the bulk of my listening is to classical CDs which are generally recorded to a high standard and sound great on my Naim kit). The lists below are in no particular order and do not reflect the quality of the artistic content, simply the sound quality of the recorded material:
List 1 - GOOD - you want to hug your speakers.
1. Aja Remaster -Steely Dan
2. Any other Steely Dan album
3. Kind of Blue - Latest remastered edition- Miles Davis
4. Headhunters -Herbie Hancock
5. Heavy Weather -Weather Report
6. Rumours -Fleetwood Mac
7. Me Myself I -Joan Armatrading
8. Dark Side of the Moon -Pink Floyd
9. Canteloupe Island -Herbie Hancock
10. Mother's Milk (original version) - RHCP
List 2: BAD - Over-compressed, over-loud, grating, fatiguing - you want to reach for the volume control and TURN IT DOWN (or off!).
1. Mother's Milk Remaster RHCP
2. Any other remastered RHCP album
3. Anything by Muse
4. Anything by The Mars Volta
5. Hounds of Love Remaster -Kate Bush
6. Hotel California Remaster -The Eagles
7. Any Black Eyed Peas album
8. Are you Experienced Remaster -Jimi Hendrix
9. Any Led Zeppelin Remaster
10. Almost anything currently produced
What CDs do you constantly play due to their great sound and which ones do you think would be best used as drinks mats?
Trev.
Posted on: 04 February 2009 by JamieL
Having just got into Steely Dan, through this forum, and bought the first five albums, I must agree with you on their recordings, wonderful.
Porcupine Tree albums have excellent sound, again a common topic on here. 'In Absentia' is my favourite for sound quality.
A few other favourites.
Talk Talk 'Spirit of Eden' and 'Laughing Stock', even 'The Colour of Spring' is good.
Kraftwerk 'Expo 2000', 'Tour De France Soundtracks', 'Minimum Maximum'.
David Sylvian 'Secrets of the Beehive'
Tool 'Lateralus'
Anyhting by Brian Eno, especially 'Drawn from Life' and 'Apollo'.
Orbital 'In Sides' and 'Middle of Nowhere'.
Joni Mitchell 'Mingus'.
Strangely there is one audience recorded bootleg which is an absolute gem, Jean Michel Jarre 'Amsterdam 2008', recorded by 'Madmaster', you just should not be able to get that sound with an audience mic. His Radiohead 2006 Amsterdam recording was almost as good, I didn't believe it was from an audience mic.
I would also add Grace Jones 'Slave to the Rhythm' if it were available, but what I Island have released on CD is appalling, not in sound, but in that much of it is edited off leaving an unlistenable album, does sound amazing though. It is barely a Grace Jones album, more Trevor Horn's showreel as a producer.
I am always surprised to see praise for Pink Floyd 'Dark Side of the Moon' remaster. Perhaps there is a more recent/better one than the 90's version. I took that back, and got the shops last copy of the un-remastered release. There was no bass on the remaster I heard, the intro to 'Time' was just not there is any real sense. The 'Animals' remaster sounds great though.
I also agree with the sound on Muse albums, really unpleasant, but I don't mind the Led Zeppelin remasters, nothing special. Less muddy than the vinyl releases, Jimmy Page might be 'Jimmy Page' with a guitar in his hand, but he is no Steve Wilson at the mixing desk.
Much as I love Underworld's music, their albums have a very muddy sound, no definition. Not grating, but there is little gained by hearing them on a good system.
Not album that has dated well for me, but Massive Attack 'Protection' sounds awful on my Naim system, the bass is so ramped up that it just booms.
Posted on: 05 February 2009 by Trevp
Jamie,
Thanks for the feedback - I'll have to check out some of the albums you recommend. I must admit I hesitated a little before putting the Led Zep remasters in because they are not too awful (Led Zep III in particular is OK), but it's just a little disappointing because I thought they could have been so much better. By the way, I agree with your comments on the vinyl versions of Led Zep albums - they sound like they were recorded in someone's bathroom - maybe Jimmy Page spent too long with his guitar amp turned up to 11!
I don't have any Massive Attack on CD but I have the vinyl version of their "Collected" album and the bass on some of the tracks is huge - so much so that it's difficult to listen to.
All the best,
Trev
Posted on: 05 February 2009 by jim learoyd
Trev
Just bought "Can't Buy a Thrill" on vinyl (180gr Speakers Corner Pressing), absolutely fantastic sound quality. It certainly blows my old copy away!
jim..... and yes you really do want to hug your speakers
Posted on: 05 February 2009 by schizo
The Keith Jarrett/ECM recordings are excellent
Regards,
Schizo
Posted on: 05 February 2009 by Mat Cork
Good:
Thomas Dolby - The Flat Earth (heh heh

)
Bad:
I love the band, and I may well be alone here, but anything and everything by Sigour Ros.
Posted on: 05 February 2009 by DenisA
You may be interested to know that TD's first 2 albums are being re-released
(here) this spring. Also a singles compilation and a new album is planned.
Posted on: 06 February 2009 by JohanR
quote:
10. Almost anything currently produced
As said as it is, I have to agree with you here, Trev.
The worst ever I've heard is Dixie Chicks - Taking the long way home. It's so completely bad it's impossible to describe.
Okay, then, something good:
- Tony Joe White - The Best of... on a CD from 1993. Available from Amazon UK. Recorded by Tom dowd at Muscle Shoals with tremendous sound.
- Anything that's rereleased by 'Wounded Bird'. They have most certainly NOT found the button with 'Loudness war' on it!
- James Taylor's 'Mud Slim...' and 'Sweet Baby James'. The original 1980's CD versions that still are available from Amazon are very good.
JohanR
Posted on: 06 February 2009 by Trevp
Thanks JohanR.
This thread is very useful to me as I'm building up a list of CDs to check out. It seems that there's lots of good stuff out there, it's just difficult to know what to buy and what to avoid. So much of the "mainstream" releases are just so bad these days in terms of sound quality.
All the best,
Trev
Posted on: 09 February 2009 by JohanR
quote:
It seems that there's lots of good stuff out there, it's just difficult to know what to buy and what to avoid.
There is. A bit of a hobby inside the hobby to find them.
JohanR
Posted on: 11 February 2009 by Wolf2
I really like Dylan's Modern Times, just so right.