Best Software to Rip WAV files?

dBPoweramp is also very good when used with AccurateRip.
Indistinguishable to EAC IMO.

It is also supported on 64-bit version OS.

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aleg

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Originally posted by Aleg:
dBPoweramp is also very good when used with AccurateRip.
Indistinguishable to EAC IMO.

It is also supported on 64-bit version OS.

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aleg

second that dbpower is secure and easy see ripnas website

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dBPoweramp is also very good when used with AccurateRip.
Indistinguishable to EAC IMO.

I would agree. My experience is from ripping using the Ripnas Statement in flac and using J.River as a library and UPnP server/client with great tagging control of flac files.

My old Arcam MS250 wav files are rapidly becoming a legacy only memory

Thanks for an interesting thread

I've used Winamp on the computer in my study but it felt redundant with Windows Media. The latest version of WMP regularly locks or produces distorted music. It clearly isn't fit for purpose. I have SB Audigy Software on the CPU which I tend to use to play CDs and surround sound DVDs.

I occasionally play files when I'm working or download to a Sony Walkman. I'm happy to pay for good software. Will dbPoweramp allow me to c/w the current functionality -i.e.synching with a portable device

Thanks in advance. John

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second that dbpower is secure and easy see ripnas website

another happy dbpoweramp user

Thanks for the steer guys. I downloaded a copy yesterday and re-ripped the songs for my USB stick. It seems very user friendly and so far as I can tell, accurate.

Cheers,
Huw

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The latest version of WMP regularly locks or produces distorted music. It clearly isn't fit for purpose.

Docoff,

Why do you presume your experience to be generalisable? WMP has, shall we say, quite a few users worldwide and a material problem of the sort you describe would be polluting the computer fora of the world.

If you have some quantified basis for your assertion, it would have helped the OP, and many others besides, more to have stated this. It still would help.

Fraser

Fraser

Thanks - I think your response is somewhat harsh but so be it.

The latest version of WMP doesn't work consistently on the computer I wish to use it on and previous versions did. Chatting to a very savvy IT colleague to get advice he had a similar problem and stopped using it. I note EAC in the original thread had issues which propmted his enquiry. If you prefer the latest version WMP doesn't appear to be fit for "my" purpose.

But - that wasn't really my issue - there are clearly very sophisticated pieces of software out there for ripping music which I wasn't aware of and before buying want to be clear about whether say dbpoweramp will suit my purpose.

Advice still welcomed John

Huw,

I don't know whether you have seen this thread but it may help, I've not tried it myself yet (rip on XP)

http://www.digital-inn.de/exac...ties-bug-report.html

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Originally posted by docoff:
Thanks - I think your response is somewhat harsh but so be it.

There was nothing harsh about my post. You made a flat assertion with no evidence underpinning it. Had you said something along the lines of "I have had problems with WMP....", I wouldn't have challenged you. As it is, you still haven't provided any evidence - you plus your "IT savvy" mate sum to two persons out of a user base of millions.

Your later post clarified your position but, as any libel lawyer will tell you, it is what you say that counts - not what you mean.

The general picture is likely to be that WMP generally rips to WAV just fine, otherwise we would all have heard about it very soon after launch.

I don't mean to personalise this response unduly but fora are replete with people proposing opinion, theory or limited personal experience as fact and it helps no one.

Fraser

DBPoweramp works with Windows 7 and you can do simultaneous multiple rips i.e. in different formats to different file locations. Great if you want WAV,FLAC and AAC versions but don't want to rip and then convert.

It has different rip settings and can be slow on ultra secure settings if the source cd is iffy but generally I think it is great.

In my experience WMP rips differ from DBPoweramp rips.

DBPoweramp has a facility to calculate the checksum of the audio data in an audio file - it is this checksum that it uses to compare with the Accuraterip database. I have used WMP and DBPoweramp to rip the same CDs to WAV. DBPoweramp computed different checksums for the cds it ripped compared to the WMP rips of the same cd. Interestingly, iTunes rips to WAV gave the same checksum as WMP.

I also used foobar to compare the audio portions of the differently ripped files; foobar found thousands of differences.

What is wrong with iTunes for ripping to WAV?

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Originally posted by Rockingdoc:
What is wrong with iTunes for ripping to WAV?

It doesn't suit audiophile pretentions, it costs nothing, has no foo and is mainstream. Therefore it can't be any good.

With apologies to the old credit card advert....there are applications for staring at checksums, analysing disc errors, evaluating offset....for everyone else there is iTunes.

There is some subjective opinion that iTunes does not rip as well as other solutions. There is of course no objective evidence but that doesn't matter, we all go with what we feel works and everyone is happy.

This hobby needs things to obsess about, just add it to the other stuff.

iTunes - its what I use - and I've never detected any improvement with other approaches discussed here.

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:

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Originally posted by Rockingdoc:
What is wrong with iTunes for ripping to WAV?

It doesn't suit audiophile pretentions, it costs nothing, has no foo and is mainstream. Therefore it can't be any good.

With apologies to the old credit card Advert....there are other applications for staring at checksums, analysing disc errors, evaluating offset....for everyone else there is iTunes.

There is some subjective opinion that iTunes does not rip as well as other solutions. There is of course no objective evidence but that doesn't matter, we all go with what we feel works and everyone is happy.

This hobby needs things to obsess about, just add it to the other stuff.

There absolutely is objective evidence that iTunes rips differ from, say, DBPoweramp rips.

Read my previous post on this thread.

You can download DBPoweramp free and check for yourself.

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Originally posted by likesmusic:



There absolutely is objective evidence that iTunes rips differ from, say, DBPoweramp rips.

Read my previous post on this thread.

You can download DBPoweramp free and check for yourself.

Sorry you were reading checksums. I was listening to them. Different hobbies. Let me re-phrase, there is subjective opinion that they sound different.

I already have Max, XLD and iTunes - ripping the same disc, I and anyone else I've tried them with, cannot reliably pick them. Time for me to stop worrying. I keep XLD as it gives info on discs that look badly damaged, but as yet I have not had one that will not rip, so limited use.

Joe

perhaps because the structure of the metadata is different between the various rip options

Joe - IIRC at your place we found that rips did sound different but identifying which rip was better varied. I use XLD now with iTunes only if XLD cant cope with the copy protection.

James

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Originally posted by paremus:
perhaps because the structure of the metadata is different between the various rip options

DBPoweramp computes a checksum on the audio data only.

The foobar add-in only compares the audio portions of two files.

What metadata is there in a WAV file anyway? Do you mean tags?

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Originally posted by james n:
Joe - IIRC at your place we found that rips did sound different but identifying which rip was better varied. I use XLD now with iTunes only if XLD cant cope with the copy protection.

James

Hi James,

That is correct, hence "reliably". I have done more testing and it really isn't worth it. This is bald men discussing a comb.

As you and I both have found, in this replay chain there are far bigger fish to fry!

Incidentally, copy protection or not there is the occasional disc that XLD will not rip - or gets stuck. iTunes with correction has no issue and it sounds great. Go figure.

Whatever lossless rips are used, alternatives to the audio output are far more interesting.

Joe

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:
Whatever lossless rips are used, alternatives to the audio output are far more interesting.

Joe

That is what I thought, but it is good to have it confirmed by those who have greater knowledge on the subject than me.

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Originally posted by Rockingdoc:

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:
Whatever lossless rips are used, alternatives to the audio output are far more interesting.

Joe

That is what I thought, but it is good to have it confirmed by those who have greater knowledge on the subject than me.

Doc,

There are some freebie demos available, Amarra and Pure Vinyl to name just two, that seek to optimise the output from iTunes using system resource management and memory play (rather than from disc) etc. Have a play if you're interested. I have found there is more gain to be had at that end.

These things will only get cheaper and more common.

Joe

They sound different to me. It's free so why not? Maybe you'll be aware of it in your next setup and wont want to do the work over as some here are now doing.

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:
Doc,

There are some freebie demos available, Amarra and Pure Vinyl to name just two,
Joe

I'm still a PC Luddite, and I believe these are Mac softwear, but I assume there are similar PC offerings?