NAP 250 on end

You can't do that.
The Naim logo would be the wrong way round!

All the music would come out sideways...

Paul Rowlands

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I think if you have no space left, you should just put the CDS2 on top of the XPS which I think should sound better than having your 250 on the carpet..sideways...

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That is VERY bad advice, IMO.

The CDS2 is a source component, it has a complex internal suspension that needs correct siting, and has no internal PSU to interfere with it's electronics, so placing it on the XPS will, in all likelihood, degrade it's performance hugely.

Garbage In, Garbage Out, the 250, correctly sited cannot make the signal better again - stick it on it's side, till you find space.

Andy.

There is a reference somewhere that the 250 on it's end gives better cooling than flat on the carpet.

Received wisdom tells us to keep the XPS away from the CDS2

Derek

<<Have you checked your PTs today>>

The 250 in the vertical 'end up' postion' has the ability to dissipate more unwanted (and thermal-shutdown-inducing) heat than it does in the standard horizontal configuration. Doing this allows the bottom of the chassis to radiate as much heat as does the top. When placed horizontally on a rack the small amount of dead space between the bottom and the rack heats up and diminishes both the temperature gradient and the ability to convect.

Back in days of olde JV himself used his 6x135 stacked vertically in a closet (or cupboard in the anachronistic Brit-speak).

As far as stacking the CDS2 on top of the XPS.. I tried exactly that a week or so ago- on top of a Mana Reference wallshelf whose space became vacant after my dealer took my LP12 away for Cirkus-ing and the latest Prefix re-do. I must say that this direct stacking worked extraordinarly well- and I had a well separated CDS3/XPS2 also plugged in to the 52 to which I was able to make a direct comparison. My earlier experiences with CDS2/Mana were somewhat equivocal, but for some odd reason when stacked ontop of the the XPS1 and place on said Reference shelf, the CDS2 has never sang quite so sweetly.

Note to self....never quote dogma as personal experience- something I have succumbed to many a time.

Ron
Dum spiro audio
Dum audio vivo

So no harm done really by putting the 250 on end on the floor next to a wall? The transformer and stuff won't care? Sounds good to me, I think I'll try it unless I hear otherwise.

I think the concern is whether the screws in the amp are meant to take prolonged horizontal loading. If not, it may give way.

david

Richard Dane might let me know what he thinks on this subject, Thanks Ted

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Originally posted by ted:
I will be getting a CDS2 to go with my Nac 82, hi and 250. I am out of room on my wall shelves (I have three wall shelves), due to the XPS for the cds2. Do you think I could put my 250 on the carpeted floor on the end? I know it's made to go horizontal but would a vertical postion hurt it? Any ideas let me know. Ted.

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If you want to put the NAP250 vertically, go and buy a metallic support made for computer (which use to raise the computer from the floor). This way the NAP250 is securely positioned and it probably look nicer too. Yes, since the NAP250 relies on its frame for cooling the vertical position is better in term of heat transfer. since the NAP250 has no moving parts, position has no effect on the sound.

MaxPower , are you sure ????????? saying stuff like this.... you will never be a Jedi ....you will be yogert not Yoda

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the CDS2 has never sang quite so sweetly. . .

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Gosh, Ron, how'd that happen? Whenever I've stacked components - especially a CD player and power supply - the performance is just destroyed.
Don

Well, my 250 has been on end for over two month's now with no problem. Made a small but sturdy wood self for it. I attached it to the wall about 6" up from the floor with shelf brackets. Stuck some small rubber feet on the bottom ( the side) and it's been working just fine. Now It's out of the way behind a large plant. I do think this way it has better hear dissapation. Figured I'd let you know, Ted.

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Yes, it looks like that only better.

Richie,

Put your 180 on end. Just secure it with a computer stand as suggested by Tuan or make your own like Ted has done. The musicallity of the 180 will not be compromised, your P3 will sound much,much better on it's own shelf as will your CDX.

Cheers,

Just make a small shelf as I said , put it where you want it (I put a hook type of thing on the top made out of a coathanger and painted black just so it wouldn't tip over, in the event of earthquakes or kids) There is no difference in the sound at all. Best to keep your power supplys etc away from cdp's and pre's. Ted

If you have no choice puting the amp on its side, stand it with the switch at the bottom:
the transformer will be at the bottom, giving better stability;
the heating side will be toward the top, giving better cooling.
Will the Naim on its side sounds like a Mark Levinson?
A six-pack like that should be quite cool looking.

No need to try with a CD5 or CDX: the drawer won't close.

Emmanuel

All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.

Yes it does prejudice the sound quality, but at a lesser level than other units. If you have no choice, it is better than laying it horizontally on the carpet.

Emmanuel

All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.

Your current setup compromises the CDX and the P3 to a greater extent than removing the 180 from the Fraim and standing it on end.
Cheers,