Burndy Burn-in
Posted by: jimlevitt on 13 June 2003
I just received the new SXPS Burndy to use between my XPS2 and CDS2. Is there any way to speed up the burn-in procedure on this cable? I've left the player running on repeat for the past 24 hours, figuring the cable needed to have a signal going through it.
What else is there to do?
thanks for any suggestions,
Jim
What else is there to do?
thanks for any suggestions,
Jim
Posted on: 13 June 2003 by Laurie Saunders
Wait....quite a few weeks I`m afraid
Laurie S
Laurie S
Posted on: 13 June 2003 by Martin Payne
Bend it like Beckham?
One suggestion I have received for a mk1 cable is to dis-mount it from the CD & PS, and flex the cable all along it's length for a couple of minutes in order to release any tensions in the cable relative to the outer shroud.
Although I have done this with all of my burndys, I take no responsibility for any effect it may have on yours!!!
You may like to check this directly with Naim before proceeding!!!
cheers, Martin
E-mail:- MartinPayne at Dial.Pipex.com
One suggestion I have received for a mk1 cable is to dis-mount it from the CD & PS, and flex the cable all along it's length for a couple of minutes in order to release any tensions in the cable relative to the outer shroud.
Although I have done this with all of my burndys, I take no responsibility for any effect it may have on yours!!!
You may like to check this directly with Naim before proceeding!!!
cheers, Martin
E-mail:- MartinPayne at Dial.Pipex.com
Posted on: 17 June 2003 by Philip Pang
Burndy Shaky Up
Hi Jim, glad you're enjoying the music.
All good things come to those who are patient... I would let it run in gradually over time - save the best for last.
You could gently, while holding the cable along its length near its two ends (but NOT the multipin connectors which could break the soldering) "bend it in a few waves" to shake the burndy up... seems to like this "loosening effect" to unleash its sonic prowess...
But that's about it.
Good listening; the music's groovin' frightfully more.
Rgds
Philip
naimniac for life
Hi Jim, glad you're enjoying the music.
All good things come to those who are patient... I would let it run in gradually over time - save the best for last.
You could gently, while holding the cable along its length near its two ends (but NOT the multipin connectors which could break the soldering) "bend it in a few waves" to shake the burndy up... seems to like this "loosening effect" to unleash its sonic prowess...
Good listening; the music's groovin' frightfully more.
Rgds
Philip
naimniac for life
Posted on: 18 June 2003 by ARC
Laurent,
What particular improvements have you noticed by changing from the grey to the black Burndy for the 52?
Brendan
What particular improvements have you noticed by changing from the grey to the black Burndy for the 52?
Brendan
Posted on: 18 June 2003 by Bosh
ARC
I found the 52 grey to black burndy a significant upgrade. On the face of it £250 seemed quite expensive but it is definitely a cost effective upgrade.
I particularly noticed less harshness, more detail and clarity and bass tightness. Go for it
I found the 52 grey to black burndy a significant upgrade. On the face of it £250 seemed quite expensive but it is definitely a cost effective upgrade.
I particularly noticed less harshness, more detail and clarity and bass tightness. Go for it
Posted on: 18 June 2003 by ARC
Is there any sonic advantage to changing theh SNAIC for the digital power supply between the SCAP and 52 to black?
Brendan
Brendan
Posted on: 18 June 2003 by greeny
quote:
Originally posted by Chitty Chitty Bang Bang:
Does this new Burndy come with the XPS2?
I would like to get one, but don't want to end up with another if I eventually get the XPS2...
(says he with a bunch of old grey Burndys rotting away)
Cheers.
Nothing
Actually
It's
Meaningless...
Yes it does come with the current, XPS2's but not the early ones, I believe it was a by product of CDS3 development. I don't know when the XPS2's started shipping with the new Burndys though. I guess this is a consideration if you are considering a future secondhand XPS2 purchase.
Is there a new product number for the new Burndy?
Posted on: 18 June 2003 by Ron Toolsie
ARC...here is a copy from a posting of mine from the 'olde' forum comparing the results of a brand new black Snaic5 when providing DC-only power to the 52s logic/digital panel ciruitry. Has it really been 5 years since!
Date: 29-Jun-98 05:38
Author: Ron Toolsie (rontoolsie@aol.com)
Subject: New SNAIC 5 to 52 ... you just gotta get it!
"Does a black snaic between a 52 and its Supercap (ie digital supply) improve the sound? "
Well, last night I purloined the new black Snaic5 that joins my NAT-01 and its P/S and tried it out on the logic/digital feed between the Supercap and the 52 head unit. Even though I have had these new SNAICS for a week, I had not tried this out before as I was quite sure that there would be no significant difference. So about 11 p.m. last night with a glass of 1992 Cabernet Reserve in hand, the gray and black SNAIC-5 traded strikes when used in this position.
And.... the results were quite similiar to the differences between the snaics when using them for a purely signal link between supercaps (in context of an active system with the extra supercap powering up a Snaxo). With the black snaics in situ there was a further reduction in a subjective peak in vocals, the bass players now were spot-on in their timing and their melodies became even more, er, melodic. The upper registers I believe became a tad airier with more ring and less spit to cymbals. The overall effect was a more relaxed yet more informative presentation- even on albums that I had thought were beyond redemption due to poor engineering.
Needless to say that I shall send out a cheque today for yet another of these black beauties. I really cannot wait to see what the new Burndy Snaic-17 will do.
And here is what I had to say when I very first tried the Black Snaics used in a signal-carrying capacity....
Date: 24-Jun-98 03:05
Author: Ron Toolsie (rontoolsie@aol.com)
Subject: Snaic charmers
Just a brief note on the new 'Black' SNAICS. I got hold of a pair of these 2 days ago; one was inserted between the 2 supercaps (the 52 supercap and the SNAXO supercap in my 6-pack DBL system) and the other betwixt the NAT-01 and its hicap-sized power supply.
Bearing in mind that I had only powered up the entire system about 10 minutes before (I had turned it ALL off as there as a severe and very proximate lightening storm that afternoon and evening, and I wished not to assume the risk of toasting any/all of my hardware), the differences between the gray and the black snaics were quite apparent. But I chose not to spend too much time attempting to compare the two as the system was in the VERY early stages of warm up.
Last night/early hours this morning after the 24 hours warm up, I did some additional comparisons. There is no doubt that the black snaics GREATLY outperform their gray counterparts, lending improvements in almost any of the parameters in which you may wish to assess them. Probably the biggest improvement is in the 'timing'.... the black ones allow for a more articulate and time aligned presentation; the gray ones sound rhythmically 'smeared' by comparison, lacking the angular, spot-on-timing and a certain degree of 'bounce' to the lower registers. Vocal inflections and articulations are also resolved to a much higher standard. And tonally I dare say that a certain subliminal 'edge' to the midrange presentation in female vocals appears to have been banished.
To put things into perspective, the black snaics allow an additional improvement that could quantitatively be equated to about 1/3 the degree of improvement that a Supercap allows over a Hicap. Seeing that the Supercap runs about $3000 more than the Hicap, this is a princely $1000 value upgrade for a pauperly $110.
In the course of the week I shall insert a single of these black SNAICS in 2 lesser systems; firstly between a 42 and its SNAPS power supply, with a 140 residing downstream- and finally between an 82 and its Hicap, with a 250 awaiting their instructions. I anticipate that I both of these will show worthwhile improvements. I may append my impressions within this thread.
This is a case of 'run, do not walk' to your dealer and order up as many of these black beauties as your system will allow. I am yet to try one of these for the logic/digital feed between the supercap and the 52, although empirically I cannot see why this non-audio voltage supply would benefit from these higher-spec cables, unless they were less noisy or more impervious to RF. Still my theory shall soon be put to the test, when I eventually try it out.
Ron
Dum spiro audio
Dum audio vivo
[This message was edited by Ron Toolsie on WEDNESDAY 18 June 2003 at 18:06.]
Date: 29-Jun-98 05:38
Author: Ron Toolsie (rontoolsie@aol.com)
Subject: New SNAIC 5 to 52 ... you just gotta get it!
"Does a black snaic between a 52 and its Supercap (ie digital supply) improve the sound? "
Well, last night I purloined the new black Snaic5 that joins my NAT-01 and its P/S and tried it out on the logic/digital feed between the Supercap and the 52 head unit. Even though I have had these new SNAICS for a week, I had not tried this out before as I was quite sure that there would be no significant difference. So about 11 p.m. last night with a glass of 1992 Cabernet Reserve in hand, the gray and black SNAIC-5 traded strikes when used in this position.
And.... the results were quite similiar to the differences between the snaics when using them for a purely signal link between supercaps (in context of an active system with the extra supercap powering up a Snaxo). With the black snaics in situ there was a further reduction in a subjective peak in vocals, the bass players now were spot-on in their timing and their melodies became even more, er, melodic. The upper registers I believe became a tad airier with more ring and less spit to cymbals. The overall effect was a more relaxed yet more informative presentation- even on albums that I had thought were beyond redemption due to poor engineering.
Needless to say that I shall send out a cheque today for yet another of these black beauties. I really cannot wait to see what the new Burndy Snaic-17 will do.
And here is what I had to say when I very first tried the Black Snaics used in a signal-carrying capacity....
Date: 24-Jun-98 03:05
Author: Ron Toolsie (rontoolsie@aol.com)
Subject: Snaic charmers
Just a brief note on the new 'Black' SNAICS. I got hold of a pair of these 2 days ago; one was inserted between the 2 supercaps (the 52 supercap and the SNAXO supercap in my 6-pack DBL system) and the other betwixt the NAT-01 and its hicap-sized power supply.
Bearing in mind that I had only powered up the entire system about 10 minutes before (I had turned it ALL off as there as a severe and very proximate lightening storm that afternoon and evening, and I wished not to assume the risk of toasting any/all of my hardware), the differences between the gray and the black snaics were quite apparent. But I chose not to spend too much time attempting to compare the two as the system was in the VERY early stages of warm up.
Last night/early hours this morning after the 24 hours warm up, I did some additional comparisons. There is no doubt that the black snaics GREATLY outperform their gray counterparts, lending improvements in almost any of the parameters in which you may wish to assess them. Probably the biggest improvement is in the 'timing'.... the black ones allow for a more articulate and time aligned presentation; the gray ones sound rhythmically 'smeared' by comparison, lacking the angular, spot-on-timing and a certain degree of 'bounce' to the lower registers. Vocal inflections and articulations are also resolved to a much higher standard. And tonally I dare say that a certain subliminal 'edge' to the midrange presentation in female vocals appears to have been banished.
To put things into perspective, the black snaics allow an additional improvement that could quantitatively be equated to about 1/3 the degree of improvement that a Supercap allows over a Hicap. Seeing that the Supercap runs about $3000 more than the Hicap, this is a princely $1000 value upgrade for a pauperly $110.
In the course of the week I shall insert a single of these black SNAICS in 2 lesser systems; firstly between a 42 and its SNAPS power supply, with a 140 residing downstream- and finally between an 82 and its Hicap, with a 250 awaiting their instructions. I anticipate that I both of these will show worthwhile improvements. I may append my impressions within this thread.
This is a case of 'run, do not walk' to your dealer and order up as many of these black beauties as your system will allow. I am yet to try one of these for the logic/digital feed between the supercap and the 52, although empirically I cannot see why this non-audio voltage supply would benefit from these higher-spec cables, unless they were less noisy or more impervious to RF. Still my theory shall soon be put to the test, when I eventually try it out.
Ron
Dum spiro audio
Dum audio vivo
[This message was edited by Ron Toolsie on WEDNESDAY 18 June 2003 at 18:06.]
Posted on: 18 June 2003 by Emil F
Is there a new product number for the new Burndy?
Black Burndy NA XPSxx
Super Burndy SXPSxx
Emil
Black Burndy NA XPSxx
Super Burndy SXPSxx
Emil
Posted on: 19 June 2003 by ARC
Ron,
Thanks for the detailed reply. It looks like buying a black 5 pin and black Burndy for my 52.
Thanks Brendan
Thanks for the detailed reply. It looks like buying a black 5 pin and black Burndy for my 52.
Thanks Brendan