Blatant Profiteering
Posted by: rodwsmith on 14 December 2009
Harrummph...
I need to get over to London as my father has been taken ill - not catastrophic/urgent, but soon (between Christmas and new year functions for me workwise - I am away from 7th Jan with work).
I check Easyjet's site this morning and make a few calls over lunch to find out about accommodation and so on.
Two things happen in the interim:
BA announce a 12 day strike
&
Easyjet's (already seasonally expensive*) prices pretty-much double
I'm sure they could/would plead increased internet traffic and so on (although has anyone on a BA flight already booked a replacement I wonder? Surely there's hope of this strike not actually happening?)
Rant over. Irritated, me. Nice bottle of wine tonight to take the edge off it.
Rod
*Airfarce prices were already too absurd to contemplate.
I need to get over to London as my father has been taken ill - not catastrophic/urgent, but soon (between Christmas and new year functions for me workwise - I am away from 7th Jan with work).
I check Easyjet's site this morning and make a few calls over lunch to find out about accommodation and so on.
Two things happen in the interim:
BA announce a 12 day strike
&
Easyjet's (already seasonally expensive*) prices pretty-much double
I'm sure they could/would plead increased internet traffic and so on (although has anyone on a BA flight already booked a replacement I wonder? Surely there's hope of this strike not actually happening?)
Rant over. Irritated, me. Nice bottle of wine tonight to take the edge off it.
Rod
*Airfarce prices were already too absurd to contemplate.
Posted on: 14 December 2009 by Derek Wright
Go by train and avoid the airport hassle
Posted on: 14 December 2009 by Stuart M
What do you expect in a capitalist society!
So capitalist it uses state funds to bail the banks out, drop interest rates to almost zero and let the banks put charges, fees and put rates up for the general public and businesses that were not part of the failure when rates have dropped. Then have divisions make profit for placing the debt to bail them out and so claim huge bonuses.
Also increased lending - to who - looks like to be to speculators who are making profit on stock market rises - that's rising due to speculators having safe loans - repeat until BANG.
All a bit mad.
E.g. One credit card company of mine put there interest rate up from 15.9% to 26% not long after rates hit 0.5% (closed and dumped that one) - and they wonder why people hate them.
Also overdraft fee's (friend was caught as overseas) Lloyds rater than a £35 charge now charge £15 for going overdrawn then £20 a day. My m8 was overseas and could not sort it out - £135 of charges! And money in another account to cover it.
They gambled, lost and we pay - once in loans so increased taxes and loss of service and again in bank rip of charges and interest rates with no relation to the base rate so they can get thier bonuses.
So capitalist it uses state funds to bail the banks out, drop interest rates to almost zero and let the banks put charges, fees and put rates up for the general public and businesses that were not part of the failure when rates have dropped. Then have divisions make profit for placing the debt to bail them out and so claim huge bonuses.
Also increased lending - to who - looks like to be to speculators who are making profit on stock market rises - that's rising due to speculators having safe loans - repeat until BANG.
All a bit mad.
E.g. One credit card company of mine put there interest rate up from 15.9% to 26% not long after rates hit 0.5% (closed and dumped that one) - and they wonder why people hate them.
Also overdraft fee's (friend was caught as overseas) Lloyds rater than a £35 charge now charge £15 for going overdrawn then £20 a day. My m8 was overseas and could not sort it out - £135 of charges! And money in another account to cover it.
They gambled, lost and we pay - once in loans so increased taxes and loss of service and again in bank rip of charges and interest rates with no relation to the base rate so they can get thier bonuses.
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by Mike Dudley
Aren't we supposed to keep off the aeroplanes because it's killing the planet?
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by BigH47
quote:Originally posted by Mike Dudley:
Aren't we supposed to keep off the aeroplanes because it's killing the planet?
Because it's making it un-inhabitable for humans/animals, it's not killing the planet it will still be there.
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by Bananahead
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:quote:Originally posted by Mike Dudley:
Aren't we supposed to keep off the aeroplanes because it's killing the planet?
Because it's making it un-inhabitable for humans/animals, it's not killing the planet it will still be there.
When god realises that we have made ourselves extinct then he will shut down the whole experiment?
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by u5227470736789439
No! God's Creation will carry on regardless.
God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform.
Who are we to question this?
God works through mankind, but only through the members of mankind who want to do His work. It is voluntary after all.
Perhaps more people should show more respect for God's Creation ... It is, after all, mankind's future that is at stake.
ATB from George
God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform.
Who are we to question this?
God works through mankind, but only through the members of mankind who want to do His work. It is voluntary after all.
Perhaps more people should show more respect for God's Creation ... It is, after all, mankind's future that is at stake.
ATB from George
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by Exiled Highlander
Why does every thread on this forum get turned into an environmental doom and gloom rant?
Jim
Jim
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by BigH47
God don't seen to care much about his creation.
None of the "free will" crap.
None of the "free will" crap.
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear Jim,
It's about flying, so the environment is very closely connected in the sense of close lateral thinking. I am going on an aeroplane on Christmas Eve, and this is a question of conscience for me. And of the selfishness involved, and therefore the question God's Creation.
Not long from now I shall refrain from it [flying] altogether, just as I have refrained from motoring to work or using [fossil fueled[ central heating. I put a coat on in the evening.
And this is for the next generation's benefit, not of course my non-existant offspring's!
Not to mention my eschewing the benefits of Naim replay to avoid the stricture of leaving it on when not in use to actually listen to music ...
ATB from George
It's about flying, so the environment is very closely connected in the sense of close lateral thinking. I am going on an aeroplane on Christmas Eve, and this is a question of conscience for me. And of the selfishness involved, and therefore the question God's Creation.
Not long from now I shall refrain from it [flying] altogether, just as I have refrained from motoring to work or using [fossil fueled[ central heating. I put a coat on in the evening.
And this is for the next generation's benefit, not of course my non-existant offspring's!
Not to mention my eschewing the benefits of Naim replay to avoid the stricture of leaving it on when not in use to actually listen to music ...
ATB from George
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by u5227470736789439
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
God don't seen to care much about his creation.
None of the "free will" crap.
If God were a dictator, and ruled out free will, then He would be worth no more than the next distator!
As I noted. It's voluntary. Therefore it's a question of free will ...
ATB from George
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by rodwsmith
My thread about Easyjet preventing me getting affordably to the side of my ailing dad seems to have become a quasi-religious eco-rant.
Well, as any fule kno, there isn't a god (aside from man's creation thereof), and because of Easyjet/BA I am most likely going to have to take the car, which for a person travelling alone, at 2000 miles round-trip, is probably worse for the environment than flying.
I'll probably drive too fast also, thus burning even more fuel than is strictly necessary. Sorry.
Well, as any fule kno, there isn't a god (aside from man's creation thereof), and because of Easyjet/BA I am most likely going to have to take the car, which for a person travelling alone, at 2000 miles round-trip, is probably worse for the environment than flying.
I'll probably drive too fast also, thus burning even more fuel than is strictly necessary. Sorry.
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by BigH47
Needs must man.
Posted on: 15 December 2009 by u5227470736789439
quote:Originally posted by rodwsmith:
My thread about Easyjet preventing me getting affordably to the side of my ailing dad seems to have become a quasi-religious eco-rant.
Well, as any fule kno, there isn't a god (aside from man's creation thereof), and because of Easyjet/BA I am most likely going to have to take the car, which for a person travelling alone, at 2000 miles round-trip, is probably worse for the environment than flying.
I'll probably drive too fast also, thus burning even more fuel than is strictly necessary. Sorry.
Take the train?
If it is significant to you then take time off work ...
Posted on: 16 December 2009 by Howlinhounddog
Rod,
No chance of taking Ryanair to somewhere close and the train from there? Or have Ryanair prices gone stratospheric as well?
Good luck whatever way you manage it.
No chance of taking Ryanair to somewhere close and the train from there? Or have Ryanair prices gone stratospheric as well?
Good luck whatever way you manage it.
Posted on: 16 December 2009 by Willy
I believe that the pricing of Easyjet flights is automatic based on the seat availability. As soon as people hear of the BA strike threat they book on Easyjet instead of their preferred BA and as the number of available seats reduces the price goes up. At the point of zero availability it becomes infinite!
Willy.
(Feeling smug having just booked my first Jan flights for £0 plus taxes.)
Willy.
(Feeling smug having just booked my first Jan flights for £0 plus taxes.)
Posted on: 16 December 2009 by King Size
quote:Originally posted by Willy:
I believe that the pricing of Easyjet flights is automatic based on the seat availability. As soon as people hear of the BA strike threat they book on Easyjet instead of their preferred BA and as the number of available seats reduces the price goes up. At the point of zero availability it becomes infinite!
Yup, we learned that in Economics 101 - simple supply and demand theory. Too much supply and the price will drop, too much demand and the price will increase until equilibrium is reached.