Any rumers about the Naimnet room amplifier?

Posted by: Claus-Thoegersen on 09 January 2009

I was over at the naimnet site, and was reminded about the room amplifier, wich seems to be the simple one box sollution to get a multiroom system up and running. This amp seems to have a DA converter inside, since it has digital inputs, and it must be an integrated amp. The question is any ideas about where in the Naim hifi hirarchy it will be placed, and the price or an intelligent guess?

Claus
Posted on: 10 January 2009 by Cjones
Naim, having just sold North American distribution rights to ASL Group,a third party distributor, will make you go to your local installer to buy this product. Why you need an installer to install this product, is beyond me. In any event, the NNP02 amp is around $2,500.00. The NNT02 is a little cheaper.
Posted on: 10 January 2009 by Paul Stephenson
cj, not sure where you get your info, naim did not sell anything to any third party, nana which was the naim distributor not owned by us merged with asl group. This will enhance sales and service support for the USA market.
Well if you wish to use the nnp01 or nnp02 as part of a distributed audio system with local control then..
Not sure why you need an install,if you are fully experienced with tcp/ip and netstream configuaration then go ahead do it yourself or if you are able to program crestron or amx via rs232 control same story.
In fact even in the most modest 2 channel system a naim retailer may be able to improve the performance of your system beyond recognition from the experience they have gained. Of course anyone can plug it in!
Posted on: 10 January 2009 by Cjones
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Stephenson:
cj, not sure where you get your info, naim did not sell anything to any third party, nana which was the naim distributor not owned by us merged with asl group. This will enhance sales and service support for the USA market.
Well if you wish to use the nnp01 or nnp02 as part of a distributed audio system with local control then..
Not sure why you need an install,if you are fully experienced with tcp/ip and netstream configuaration then go ahead do it yourself or if you are able to program crestron or amx via rs232 control same story.
In fact even in the most modest 2 channel system a naim retailer may be able to improve the performance of your system beyond recognition from the experience they have gained. Of course anyone can plug it in!


I got the info from the website.
"ASL Group, formerly known as Audiophile Systems Ltd, announces they have acquired Naim Audio North America: the distributor for Naim Audio and NaimNet in the USA."

http://www.audiophilesystems.com/

Was not aware NANA wasn't owned by Naim. Sorry for spreading the rumor. But you can understand the confusion based on the quote from the website.

As for the comment on installation. I have been told in the past and specifically by Naim dealers, that you need to be an installer to get the Naimnet gear. And that all Naim dealers don't automatically get access to Naimnet. I had not reason not to believe them, as I already have my NaimNet arrangement.
Posted on: 11 January 2009 by jon h
quote:
Originally posted by Cjones:
And that all Naim dealers don't automatically get access to Naimnet.


Jolly good idea. Naim does a dealer training thing specifically for naimnet, to ensure the dealer is fully up to speed with all the complexities not only of the analogue audio side (which a Naim dealer would be pretty au fait with) but also of the digital audio and computer sides (which a Naim dealer might well be patchy on, at best)

I'm pretty sure that if you jumped up and down and shouted at your non-naimnet naim dealer about buying a piece of naim kit, he might well be able to get it for you from the factory. But there is a whole can of worms in doing that. Remember that the Naim company philosophy, right from the earliest days, has been that the dealer does the install for you and takes responsibility for it.

As JV said on the old forum in Oct 99 (and I am assuming the business relationship is the same today):

"Also, all our UK dealers have signed a franchise agreement that
 requires them to install Naim equipment in the customer's home (or 
at
 least to take responsibility for the installation in the case of
    existing customers)."

And more wise words:

"
It may be an an extra job for a dealer to perform, but we are 
talking
    about a precision transducer costing about £2k and part of system 
that
    might average £10k, is this really too much to ask?

    julian
"
Posted on: 13 January 2009 by David Dever
quote:
Naim, having just sold North American distribution rights to ASL Group,a third party distributor, will make you go to your local installer to buy this product. Why you need an installer to install this product, is beyond me. In any event, the NNP02 amp is around $2,500.00. The NNT02 is a little cheaper.


Chris, as always, you may contact me directly via e-mail:

DavidD@aslgroup.com

We do not sell direct to end users–you will need to establish a relationship with a retailer / integrator who may order and install this product for you. You and I have already discussed this in the past.

Installed audio systems should be configured by a properly-trained integrator, who can verify and insure proper performance across the entire system. The buck stops with the integrator, and this defines the relationship from a technical support perspective. (This is especially important with TCP/IP, as I've seen plenty of situations in which ONE device can affect the performance of the entire system–often omitted until an on-site visit confirms its existence!)

Back to the question posed by the original poster–the NNP01 resembles a NAP200 or SUPERNAIT, with fan cooling and up to six local inputs (two digital inputs are re-sampled to 44.1 kHz / 16-bit at the present time). The NNP02, on the other hand, uses a switching amplifier topology which, in my opinion, sounds much better than the IC-based topology used in the n-Vi.

Both products have the same input / output configuration, by the way.