Du Pré - Elgar Cello Concert
Posted by: andrea on 21 October 2009
Hallo every one.
I'm back to the Forum, to ask an advice.
I’ve seen there are so many versions of this famous concert, I mean issues.
I’m interested in Du Pré, Barbirolli, Elgar Cello Concert.
I guess it is not available on vinyl anymore.
But, even on cd, I noticed there are many different issues . . . could anybody advise on which one would be convenient to get, as for Hi-Fi quality?
Many thanks
and kind regard to all
Andrea
Posted on: 21 October 2009 by andrea
Dear Stu, very kind as always . . . yes, I have had enough of banging, and my neiboroughs too
Well, the bigger box set looks interesting for sure . . . .
I’ve seen somewhere, I think on Amazon, reviews made by customers, saying the first issue on cd was awful, while the last one was excellent. I’m simply not sure about which is which . . .
I see you’ve been on the forum a lot . . . .
Good.
Many thanks and talk to you soon
Andrea
Posted on: 21 October 2009 by Analogue
quote:
Originally posted by munch:
Hi Andrea,
Good to see you back.
Have you had enough of banging the drum kit this summer and need to listen to some good music
I only have the very best of 3cd set with the Elgar Cello Concerto in E minor on it.
Its a great box set.
You might want to get this great 17 cd box set?
For around £17 thats a £1.00 a disc,Well worth it.
You can still get it on vinyl,The 1999 pressing.
It will cost around £20.00 for a used copy though.
Regards
Stu
I agree with the 3cd set but as yet have not heared the 17cd set.
Du Pre can also be found on vinyl in charity shops and boot sales.
I bought a copy on vinyl for £1.50
Jacqueline Du Pre & Daniel Barenboim:-
Haydn: Cello Concerto In C
Boccherini: Cello Concerto In B Flat
With The English Chamber Orchestra.
On HMV 2331
Posted on: 21 October 2009 by graham55
Actually, du Pre's version of the Elgar Cello Concerto is available new on vinyl from Testament Records.
G
Posted on: 21 October 2009 by andrea
quote:
Originally posted by Analogue:
I bought a copy on vinyl for £1.50
Jacqueline Du Pre & Daniel Barenboim:-
Haydn: Cello Concerto In C
Boccherini: Cello Concerto In B Flat
With The English Chamber Orchestra.
On HMV 2331
Thanks!
I wonder what are the conditions of this record . . it is very inexpensive, but at times, similar records I got, where simply unlistenable
Kind regards
Andrea
Posted on: 21 October 2009 by andrea
quote:
Originally posted by graham55:
Actually, du Pre's version of the Elgar Cello Concerto is available new on vinyl from Testament Records.
G
Very interesting!
Have you heard it?
Posted on: 21 October 2009 by graham55
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Very interesting!
Have you heard it?[/QUOTE]
No, but the Testament pressings are reputed to be good. I can't say, though.
G
Posted on: 21 October 2009 by u5227470736789439
By whom?
Posted on: 22 October 2009 by Analogue
quote:
Originally posted by andrea:
quote:
Originally posted by Analogue:
I bought a copy on vinyl for £1.50
Jacqueline Du Pre & Daniel Barenboim:-
Haydn: Cello Concerto In C
Boccherini: Cello Concerto In B Flat
With The English Chamber Orchestra.
On HMV 2331
Thanks!
I wonder what are the conditions of this record . . it is very inexpensive, but at times, similar records I got, where simply unlistenable
Kind regards
Andrea
andrea,
Some turn out to be very good, once they have been put in a RCM.
Kind regards
Chris N
Posted on: 22 October 2009 by andrea
quote:
Originally posted by Analogue:
andrea,
Some turn out to be very good, once they have been put in a RCM.
Kind regards
Chris N
I see, I'vo got a VPI 16.5, It gives good results
Many thanks then
Ciao
Andrea
Posted on: 22 October 2009 by Geoff P
I have this issue which was digitally remastered in 2004 and is reputed to be of excellent quality. See a review comment:
EMI released this on CD back in 1986 (on CDC 7 47329 2) and the sound quality was disappointing to those brought up on the vinyl release. This time they have made amends - the sound quality is sensational. A back-room genius called Ian Jones has restored the dynamics and colour that made this a standout recording of its time. If you love this work and performance as I do, this release is worth every penny, even if you have the previous one. I don't disagree. For example the plucked strings and stacatto cello in the second movement has the great dynamics that Du Pre generated.
Available from Amazon resellers for as little as 5.23. Which is great value, especially considering you also get:
Elgar's 'Cockaigne Overture' and Janet Baker singing 'Sea Pictures' thrown in.
regards
geoff
Posted on: 22 October 2009 by andrea
Very good Geoff, this is exactly what I was looking for.
In fact, you're mentioning the same review I saw, you found it on Amazon, right?
Then you are able to confirm.
Great.
Many thanks, and best regards
Andrea
Posted on: 22 October 2009 by Michael_B.
+1 to what Geoff posted.
Thanks for the download panic, Stu....
Posted on: 22 October 2009 by Steve2
By pure coincidence I have been playing the EMI version today at work on my laptop. As Geoff so rightly points out, not only do you get the Concerto but also the marvelous Janet singing the Sea Songs. Where Corals Lie is simply beautiful. I never tire of hearing it.
Posted on: 22 October 2009 by andrea
Hello Steve, and Michael . . .
your posts raise to me another question . . .
does the cd set advised by munch, include the Elgar concerto w Barbirolli/LSO?
Or it does not? And, furthermore, if the answer is yes, could anyone tell which version is it?
The very good one you're referring to, or the notsogood previous one?
Many thanks to all anyway
Best regards
Andrea
Posted on: 28 October 2009 by KenM
There is a superb and inexpensive EMI 5-CD set of Elgar's works conducted by Barbirolli (EMI Classics 3 67918 2). The Cello concerto is the DuPre/LSO/Barbirolli version, remastered in 2004.
Barbirolli recorded many of these works more than once, but this set seems to contain his best versions. When I bought it on Amazon, it was well under £10. It is entitled "Elgar Orchestral Works" but it does also contain the famous Janet Baker 1965 recording of Sea Pictures, again remastered in 2004.
Ken
Posted on: 31 October 2009 by andrea
quote:
Originally posted by KenM:
There is a superb and inexpensive EMI 5-CD set of Elgar's works conducted by Barbirolli (EMI Classics 3 67918 2). The Cello concerto is the DuPre/LSO/Barbirolli version, remastered in 2004.
Barbirolli recorded many of these works more than once, but this set seems to contain his best versions. When I bought it on Amazon, it was well under £10. It is entitled "Elgar Orchestral Works" but it does also contain the famous Janet Baker 1965 recording of Sea Pictures, again remastered in 2004.
Ken
Hi Ken and thank you very much for the hint.
I just bought it.
Have a nice day
Andrea
Posted on: 31 October 2009 by paulr0414
My original vinyl (ASD655) also still sounds remarkably good
Posted on: 01 November 2009 by andrea
quote:
Originally posted by paulr0414:
My original vinyl (ASD655) also still sounds remarkably good
Well, I could go for a vinyl myself, but only if in good conditions, as for the record, don't care much about cover, and at a very reasonable price
Posted on: 01 November 2009 by paulr0414
I've had mine from new. Hard earned university beer funds diverted to something more enduring - not that I realised that at the time.
Good hunting, p
Posted on: 02 November 2009 by andrea
quote:
Originally posted by paulr0414:
I've had mine from new. Hard earned university beer funds diverted to something more enduring - not that I realised that at the time.
Good hunting, p
Thanks, there are several on sale at the moment, at different prices.
Posted on: 04 November 2009 by madasafish
Posted on: 04 November 2009 by andrea
quote:
Originally posted by madasafish:
Andrea
if you like the cello concerto format, the following set has the performance you want and lots of other interesting stuff.
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/p...Box_Sets/5673412.htm
Well thanks, seems excellent, in fact, only exceptionally I buy cds, preferring vinyl . . .
but I did bookmark the site for future reference.
Many thanks for the hint and kind regards
andrea
Posted on: 04 November 2009 by madasafish
Andrea
I've just noticed you live in Rome. Do you ever get to Firenze? There's an excellent vinyl shop there (possibly called Abraxas?). He has a Gyro deck in the window and 1000s of good value records.
Posted on: 04 November 2009 by andrea
quote:
Originally posted by madasafish:
Andrea
I've just noticed you live in Rome. Do you ever get to Firenze? There's an excellent vinyl shop there (possibly called Abraxas?). He has a Gyro deck in the window and 1000s of good value records.
Thanks madasa . . . here it goes:
"Abraxas’ main activity is the release of vinyl records, and we are one of the world’s leading companies in this specific field. Along with the production and worldwide distribution of LPs, we have also begun releasing CDs." So in fact, they have a quite poor and badly organized on line catalog . . . and no, I do not go often to Florence . . . . for many reasons.
But, again, many thanks for the suggestion.
Where do you live?
kr
Andrea
Posted on: 04 November 2009 by madasafish
I live in England.
I bought 3 LPs there and they were quite good quality - very heavy vinyl and cheap. It's the kind of shop I like - dozens of boxes of LPs at good prices and late 60s to early 70s music playing continuously.
