Guess the composer
Posted by: Basil on 11 December 2006
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Posted on: 11 December 2006 by rupert bear
Presumably not an early composition by David Gilmour.
Posted on: 11 December 2006 by Big Brother
Spike Mulligan ?
Posted on: 11 December 2006 by u5227470736789439
Post Beethoven, and possibly French, and certainly either second quarter of the ninteenth century, or else rather derivative...
No clue as to whom it was composed by, unless it was Bizet as a twelve year old...
At least it was a stab. Fredrik
No clue as to whom it was composed by, unless it was Bizet as a twelve year old...
At least it was a stab. Fredrik
Posted on: 11 December 2006 by Basil
quote:Post Beethoven, and possibly French, and certainly either second quarter of the ninteenth century, or else rather derivative...
No clue as to whom it was composed by, unless it was Bizet as a twelve year old...
At least it was a stab. Fredrik
Yes, no, no, no and no!
Posted on: 11 December 2006 by acad tsunami
I think its english - 20th century - an early Vaughan Williams perhaps?
Posted on: 11 December 2006 by Basil
I can see (hear) why you might think that acad but no, it's not RVW.
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by acad tsunami
quote:It's Elgar then, both he and RVW collected folk tunes so thats my guess??
(Edit) But then again so did Holst........but I'm still betting on Elgar
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by Bob McC
Is it Chris Martin's latest attempt to save the planet?
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by Basil
Neither Elgar nor Holst.
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by acad tsunami
Doh!
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by Earwicker
Sounds like a student piece by any late 19th century Rusky you like.
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by jayd
quote:Guess the composer
Freddie Mercury?
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by David S Robb
Sibelius?
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by ewemon
I would agree with acad 20th century English. I have actually heard this before but can't remember where. Almost sounds like a theme tune written for a TV prog featuring the countryside and animals like "I'm a Celebrity get me out of here".
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by Basil
Well done David S Robb
It's Sibelius!
Five pieces for violin and piano op. 81 (1915-18)
It's Sibelius!
Five pieces for violin and piano op. 81 (1915-18)
quote:No. 2, Rondino (Allegretto grazioso; 1917). This is one of Sibelius's most charming pieces for violin. It has the grace and charm of the Rococo style, and a new classicism – which is unforced, and which arises from the composer having over many years adopted and internalised the ideals of classicism.
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by Oldnslow
Basil--I wish you hadn't told me that insipid trite little ditty was by the composer of the greatest 20th century violin concerto and one of my favorites, Jean Sibelius............hehehe
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by u5227470736789439
Dear Oldnslow! [Nothing to add, Smiley]! Fredrik
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by Basil
I hope I never become so jaded that I cannot appreciate the beauty of simple things.
Fredrik, that you seem to agree with Oldnslow surprises me.
Fredrik, that you seem to agree with Oldnslow surprises me.
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by u5227470736789439
Dear Basil,
Please don't be offended. That was certainly not my aim, but really it is a very simple piece. Already I said it sounds like the work of a 12 year old, though without question a talented one, but it almost a 100 years behind the times as a piece. Elgar also wrote such childish music as well, but this is hardly the last word in an artistic developement like Sibelius'. He is my favourite twentieth century composer! This little piece does nothing to diminish my admiration and love for his music!
This has been a lovely thread, so please don't think I was trying to spoil the fun! Fredrik
Please don't be offended. That was certainly not my aim, but really it is a very simple piece. Already I said it sounds like the work of a 12 year old, though without question a talented one, but it almost a 100 years behind the times as a piece. Elgar also wrote such childish music as well, but this is hardly the last word in an artistic developement like Sibelius'. He is my favourite twentieth century composer! This little piece does nothing to diminish my admiration and love for his music!
This has been a lovely thread, so please don't think I was trying to spoil the fun! Fredrik
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by u5227470736789439
Dear Basil,
Please accept my apology. My post above to Oldnslow was pathetic actually. Sorry. I am not in a very good humour, but that is no excuse. Fredrik
Please accept my apology. My post above to Oldnslow was pathetic actually. Sorry. I am not in a very good humour, but that is no excuse. Fredrik
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by Earwicker
quote:Originally posted by Basil:
Well done David S Robb
It's Sibelius!
Five pieces for violin and piano op. 81 (1915-18)
Huh? That violin's tuned rather low...!
Posted on: 13 December 2006 by Basil
quote:Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:
Dear Basil,
Please accept my apology. My post above to Oldnslow was pathetic actually. Sorry. I am not in a very good humour, but that is no excuse. Fredrik
Don't worry about it Fredrik, We may disagree on a few things (cough Karajan) but your posts (and Tams) are pretty much the only reason I still visit.
As proof that you are still in my "good books" please accept this link to radio 3's "listen again" site and go to "Discovering music". A superb hour on Sibelius's tone poem Tapiola.
quote:Huh? That violin's tuned rather low...!
That's because it's a cello!
Posted on: 13 December 2006 by Earwicker
quote:Originally posted by Basil:quote:Huh? That violin's tuned rather low...!
That's because it's a cello!
Heehee, is that so?!
Posted on: 13 December 2006 by Basil
It's obviously a transcription, but I can find no reference to it on any of the Sibelius sites I've been able to find.
Here's what they had to say about the Five pieces for violin and piano op. 81
More can be found here
Needless to say, I'm currently searching Amazon for a CD of this.
No mention of it being an "insipid trite little ditty" I guess they lack oldnslow's insight into music.*
*And yes, I know that was a cheap shot!
Here's what they had to say about the Five pieces for violin and piano op. 81
quote:(1915-18)
This is perhaps Sibelius's last "bread-and-butter" opus for the violin, but in this case, too, necessity turned into a virtue, since the collection includes some of the composer's best individual pieces for violin.
No. 1, Mazurka (1915). The Mazurka may very well be Sibelius's best salon piece or showpiece. But it is not easy: there are extensive leaps, double stops and chords, flute notes and pizzicatos. The work requires a perfect technique and a refined taste to show all its intoxicating qualities.
No. 2, Rondino (Allegretto grazioso; 1917). This is one of Sibelius's most charming pieces for violin. It has the grace and charm of the Rococo style, and a new classicism – which is unforced, and which arises from the composer having over many years adopted and internalised the ideals of classicism.
No. 3, Valse (Poco con moto; 1917). The waltz was Sibelius's favourite dance, and he used in almost a hundred compositions. The sensibility of this violin waltz avoids conventionality, especially because of the inventiveness of its middle section. The work brings to mind Tchaikovsky's ballets.
No. 4, Aubade (Andantino con moto; 1918). The introductory chords at the beginning of the "Morning Song" can be heard as notes enabling the singer of a serenade to tune his instrument. The playful scale runs of the more agile main sequence have a kind of Mozartian lightness.
No. 5, Menuetto (Moderato assai; 1918). This is more a paraphrase or evocation of a minuet than a regular classical dance. Sibelius does not treat old genres in such a cubistic manner as Stravinsky; still, this minuet is anything but a pastiche: Sibelius seems to be aiming to dissolve all genre characteristics.
More can be found here
Needless to say, I'm currently searching Amazon for a CD of this.
No mention of it being an "insipid trite little ditty" I guess they lack oldnslow's insight into music.*
*And yes, I know that was a cheap shot!
Posted on: 13 December 2006 by u5227470736789439
Dear Basil,
I don't think that agreement is necessary for a fascinating discussion - rather the reverse in many ways - provided that I avoid my faux-pax as above again..
Have a look at my tragic hero thread: "Furtwangler?" [Tragic Hero, as in the sense that one such, retains his human falibilities, despite life's experiences, but still can command a grudging admiration for sheer brute honesty to those flawed values]... I still can admire King Lear, for all that he was a very tragic hero!
Also I have a couple of "Guess the composer" ideas! How do you post an MP3 link. I know how to do pictures, so is it a question of an aural equaivalent of "imageshack" for pictures?
This thread might run and run, yet...
Yes, I am restless tonight. It is not good.
ATB from Fredrik
I don't think that agreement is necessary for a fascinating discussion - rather the reverse in many ways - provided that I avoid my faux-pax as above again..
Have a look at my tragic hero thread: "Furtwangler?" [Tragic Hero, as in the sense that one such, retains his human falibilities, despite life's experiences, but still can command a grudging admiration for sheer brute honesty to those flawed values]... I still can admire King Lear, for all that he was a very tragic hero!
Also I have a couple of "Guess the composer" ideas! How do you post an MP3 link. I know how to do pictures, so is it a question of an aural equaivalent of "imageshack" for pictures?
This thread might run and run, yet...
Yes, I am restless tonight. It is not good.
ATB from Fredrik