chamber orchestra of europe...
Posted by: ken c on 14 October 2003
last night, i happened upon an lp, mozart "serenade for 13 wind instruments" by the wind soloists of the above orchestra.
i know mozart's music is considered by some people to be a bit "syrupy" -- i dont really care. to me, the music was very relaxing -- it - sound quality very good, i guess not surprising -- its a well pressed vinyl lp which i bought for £7.49 from virgin back in 1989, on the asv label.
does this orchestra still exist? anyone know whatelse they have done? i will also look on AMG.
enjoy...
ken
Posted on: 14 October 2003 by herm
Ken,
of course the COE still exists, having made numerous recordings of Mozart stuff - and I have incidentally never heard of anyone calling WAM 'syrupy', who on earth are you talking to?
The piece of music you are referring to, the Gran Partita, is one of Mozart's midcareer breakthrough compositions Ilike the violin / viola concert and the Entführung opera) and I have recommended it to you once or twice in the past. But you had one all along.
It's just an amazing piece in its romanticism and humor, and of course in the complete ease of expression with so little means.
Herman
Posted on: 14 October 2003 by ken c
herm: The piece of music you are referring to, the Gran Partita, is one of Mozart's midcareer breakthrough compositions Ilike the violin / viola concert and the Entführung opera) and I have recommended it to you once or twice in the past. But you had one all along.
not surprising. its only recently when my LP12 seems to be wanting to "prove something" that i have been going through my vinyl collection -- found records i never knew i had. all this time, like earl hines "quintessential recording session".
i could swear that i had the original "kind of blue" -- but so far have only found the remastered LP... cant be right...
lots and lots of blue note stuff...
am about to put all in an access d/b -- though i have threatened to do this before.
thanks for info on COE ---
enjoy...
ken
Posted on: 14 October 2003 by ken c
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Alves:
As for the Gran Partita, I love the work, it's full of invention, wit and life. Very refreshing and not at all syruppy unless you've got no soul.
Tom
Actively enjoying it all
thanks tom. and i am glad you are "actively" enjoying it all. your system is almost same as mine except for hutter and rega record player. i only use the best record player
enjoy...
ken
Posted on: 14 October 2003 by ken c
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Alves:
quote:
Originally posted by ken c:
am about to put all in an access d/b
Eek, no, don't do it. Try http://www.collectorz.com/music/ which is much more suited to the job.
Tom
Actively enjoying it all
tom, brilliant idea!! that thread must have happened when i was off the forum for a while...
now i will catalogue my collection...
enjoy
ken
Posted on: 15 October 2003 by Phil Barry
Slavonic Dances?
Even when played by my beloved Cleveland Orchestra that music is terrible!
To each his or her own, I guess, but...50% of US Country music is better than the SD....
Regards.
Phil
Posted on: 15 October 2003 by herm
Now, now. Heard in toto or even semi the Slavonic Dances are enough to drive you up against the wall, but there's two or three that make beautiful encores, one at a time. The orchestration is pretty neato.
Posted on: 15 October 2003 by Todd A
quote:
Originally posted by Phil Barry:
To each his or her own, I guess, but...50% of US Country music is better than the SD....
You shouldn't post while drunk, Phil.
"The universe is change, life is opinion." Marcus Aurelius,
MeditationsPosted on: 17 October 2003 by herm
Incidentally, I do own the COE recording of Dvorak's Slavonic Dances, led by Nicolaus Harnoncourt, and it's a very good one (part of a big Dvorak project of Harnoncourt's).
This recording would be my recommendation, together with the 1975 midprice DG Originals recording by Raphael Kubelik with the Bavarian Radio Orchestra, which is much better than Kubelik's more strident fifties recording with the Vienna Philharmonic (reissued on Decca Legends).
Herman
Posted on: 17 October 2003 by herm
quote:
Originally posted by J. A. Toon:
This Harnoncourt version seems particularly good in terms of driving the music on with real vigour.
That's probably more in the music than the director. Harnoncourt's is a relatively slow paced account. The distinguishing trait of this recording is its focus on orchestral color and harmonic delicacies in clear open textures. Vigor and drive would be much more the early Kubelik (and many others, no doubt).
Herman
Posted on: 04 November 2003 by herm
Well, there used to be an epoch-making recording by the Netherlands Wind Ensemble (consisting mostly of Concertgebouw players) led by Edo de Waart - all in blue jeans and sideburns, since we're talking ca 1970.
At the time there wasn't even a good critical score of this wonderful piece (nor of the other two great wind pieces 375 and 388). So they used nineteenth century scores, but the excitement and romantic beauty just comes right through.
It's on Philips. Unfortunately I'm not sure whether and how this recording is available right now.
The Harnoncourt & COE should be fine, too.
Herman
