News flash: Rega gets wired!
Posted by: Joe Petrik on 30 April 2001
Several years, apparently, but they finally have.
Joe
Brochures from Rega!!! Whatever next...?
Regards,
Frank.
Respect!
enjoy...
ken
Can't wait to hear them, though.
I have an RB900 on my p9 (that's the way it comes). I haven't directly compared the arm to anything else, but the p9/RB900 combo is a killer.
Word on the street is that it's the best in analogue replay at any price. 
Joe
Glad to see it though. They kept on teasing us with www.regausa.com being "under construction" for so long.
Cheers
Keith.
enjoy...
ken
talking about dot com, heard the new jimmy smith album "dot com blues" yet? i have it. good album. but i must admit i was expecting more.
enjoy...
ken
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what cartridge on the rb900 does "the street" reckon will completely anhilate a fully naimed lp12/aro/a_new_suitable_cartridge??
Whether the p9 completely annihilates the LP12 seems to be in the ear of the beholder. Vuk, Kevin Hughes, Scott Naylor and I, for example, think a p9 whoops any LP12's arse -- Naimed up, Linned up or whatever. Other people, Bob Edwards, for example, think a middle-level LP12 (Valhalla/Ittok) is significantly better than the p9. It's very much a suck 'n' see thing. You'll either think the p9 is a revelation... or a dog. The LP12 is certainly warmer and somewhat fuller sounding, so it might be preferred in a lean system, notwithstanding any preference people might have for the other characteristics of the LP12.
I've tried several cartridges on p9s -- Rega Exact; Linn Asak, Klyde, rebuilt Karma and rebuilt Troika; and Dynavector XX-1L and Te Kaitora. In short, I'd go with a decent moving coil unless money is tight. For some reason the p9 seems to be hampered more by moving magnet cartridges -- including Rega's own -- than other tables I've heard. If you bother to hear this table, insist that a decent moving coil cartridge is mounted on it.
Within the moving coil options it seems that fast, funky and slightly warm are the way to go. Tony Lonorgan was running a Lyra Lydian Beta in his p9 and, although the combo was apparently very dynamic and groovy, the tonal balance was too light with his Kans. Tony -- like me, Vuk, Kevin and Scott -- is now using an XX-1L. It seems to suit the p9 very well.
Joe
A Garrard 401 in a solid Loricraft plinth bombs the stuffing out of your puny little Lp 12's and Rega's.
When I retire, I have promised myself a Garrard 501 which retails at £7000.00. It sounds a lot of money but once you have heard one there is no going back.
Your problem is that you have never had the opportunity to hear one, they sound great and last forever.
I feel sorry for you all.
Yours gloatingly
Mick
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Your problem is that you have never had the opportunity to hear one, they sound great and last forever.
are these things still made?? shame -- why did i sell my ap96 then?? it would probably beat my lp12 to submission.
you were probably speaking "tongue in cheek" here, but there is just so much you can line up to hear and you have to draw a line somewhere. what about roksan? michell? phonosophie? sme? rega? linn? naim(oops, sorry, they dont make t/t's) -- the list goes on...
stick to your garrard ten zillion and one, you sound happy enough for it...
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ken
Loricraft usually exhibit at the London show. They are a small concern and are usually plonked in some obscure corner of the building.
The 501 is a derivative of the 401 but once you have heard it it makes the rest sound tame.
Loricraft badly needs to be marketed properly because very few people have even heard of the company let alone the TT.
Hearing that TT is something I will never hear the equal of again....it is that good.
Regards
Mick
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ken
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ken
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...whats the rest of your system by the way
Sources
* Rega p9 with Dynavector XX-1L
* CD2
Electronics
* Naim 102, Hi-Cap, napsc, 250
Speakers
* Royd Sorcerers
Stands
* Turntable on dedicated one-tier home-brew stand
* CD2 on Mana Power Supply Table on dedicated one-tier home-brew stand
* Electronics (less napcs) in five-tier home-brew stand, with preamp on Mana Sound Frame
Joe
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Tony Lonorgan was running a Lyra Lydian Beta in his p9 and, although the combo was apparently very dynamic and groovy, the tonal balance was too light with his Kans. Tony -- like me, Vuk, Kevin and Scott -- is now using an XX-1L.
The only difference is that I am not actually that happy with mine!
The Lydian had far more drive, dynamics and rhythmic coherence, though sounded too thin and grainy through my Kans (though sounded excellent through my old slightly flabby ProAcs). Conversely the XX1L is an absolutely fantastic tracker, though is ultimately just a little too smooth and laid back for me - I just find it too dull and boring, though can understand why others like it. I suspect the 32.5 phono stage is not really up to dealing with such a low output cartridge, and The P9 itself is IMHO probably a little too lean for Kans. Can't afford a better preamp, love Kans, so the deck gets changed!
Bottom line the XX1L is going, I think I have found someone who will give me a nearly new Ortofon MC10 Supreme and a Nait 1 for it, and I'm going back to an LP12 / Ittok as soon as I can find a buyer for the P9.
Tony.
John
The price of £7000.00 is for the 501 plus SME V plus loricraft PSU and a cartridge (forget which).
You can do it a lot cheaper by buying a 401/301 in good nick for about £150.
Take it to loricraft for a full renovation which cost me £108, buy a table mat £35, and a plinth for about £550. This plinth is wooden perfection and the pinnacle of the cabinet makers art.
A 401/301 without this plinth is a waste of space.
So for about £850 you will have a TT which will easily take on any of the competition, it looks so much better and will last you out with hardly any maintenance. One drop of oil every 5 years is all thats required, no set up worries to contend with.
You may then choose an arm to suit yourself.
One advantage of the Garrard is that it seems unaffected by racks so thats one little problem dispensed with.
If ever you pass through Swindon (no one in their right mind ever stays here)you are invited to my humble abode for a listen.
Get shot of your over rated LP12 and listen to vinyl as it should be heard.
Regards
Mick
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Vuk, Kevin Hughes, Scott Naylor and I, for example, think a p9 whoops any LP12's arse -- Naimed up, Linned up or whatever. Other people, Bob Edwards, for example, think a middle-level LP12 (Valhalla/Ittok) is significantly better than the p9.
And Dev thinks that a Well Tempered is better than all of them!
ps. I have heard the P9 and I think it's pretty damn good - something that I could live with easily. The bass, in particular is better and more precise than a non Manaed LP12, but given that all LP12's sound different to one another getting a really, really good one and doing a fair comparison is a bit like getting a snowball to hit the sun.
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Get shot of your over rated LP12 and listen to vinyl as it should be heard.
One day, everyone else will see the light.
Yours in admiration,
Dev
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And Dev thinks that a Well Tempered is better than all of them!
I have been remiss: And Dev thinks that a Well Tempered is better than all of them!
I haven't heard one, so I can't say, but given that Dev's heard several LP12s, a p9 or two, the Phonosophie and still prefers the WTR, he might be on to something.
Joe
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Have any of you P9 ers tried a stageline with say a Hi-Cap as an alternative to the preamps boards or fiddling with a prefix?
No one here that I'm aware of uses a Stageline with p9 but Vuk runs his table with a Prefix powered by the spare socket on his 52. It works very well except when the ham radio operator next door starts talking to his buddies in Republic of Uzbekistan.
Joe
Shame really.
enjoy...
ken
just depends on pressure and temperature and mains and room acoustics and mood. and i claim my mood is better than anyone else's.
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ken