The meaning of life.

Wise words Rasher.

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Originally posted by Rasher:
If life seems bad, then you are missing something, and that something is probably right there but you just fail to see it.

Or he is seeing everything very clearly, but with a different interpretation from yours?

Ahh..Nigel, I didn't say seeing "clearly". My glasses have a rose tint.

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Originally posted by Tarquin Maynard- Lucy. She died of leukemia in febraury, aged 44. She left two daughters aged 11 and 14, and an heartbroken husband. She was one of the most important people in my life,

So....Mike.
I'm very sorry for this and i mean what i write.
Love can be a rope that keep two people together.
Sometimes the rope just brake for different reasons and sometimes leave one with a end in hands.
I'm keeping my rope end since far 1986.
The story is too long to be told, but i say i spent many years in anger and cynicism as a kind of cure to my desperation drinking the bitter wine of the impossibility to change things.

Sorry.
I do allow myself to tell you i see the same cynicism in you.
I did think there was something striking in your posts and now i know i was right.
I do take the liberty to write these lines and i hope you'll be able to find comfort in a close future.
At the same time i say that i saw you putting numbers before "life" and this comes only from two kind of men: the one who never had something inside to take away and the one who have it but saw it goin' away.
Now i know you're in the second category.
This is a good thing and a point to start again.

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Originally posted by HR:
My name, Haim, means life in Hebrew, if that helps.

Haim

Hi Haim!
Mine comes from german.
"Hlod" and "Wig".
They means glorious and battle.
Probably the right one..................

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Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:
But I guess this might be even deeper with off-spring, though not for me, who will never bring any into the world. That is how much of a pessimist I am.

Me too. I think I'd go mad if I thought another human being was going to have to live just because of me. I'm more than willing to accept that this is one of my many failings, but I just don't see how anyone with a conscience can forgive themselves for condemning someone else to life. It's an INFINITELY worse moral offence than murder.

And the paradox is you're supposed to love your children more than anything else in the world... and yet people gladly, DELIBERATELY sign them up for the all horrors of life.

The real winners are the ones who are never born; if only they knew how lucky they are not to be alive.

The world is a mad, shithole of a place.

EW

EW

Do you ever get invites to parties?

Earwicker

If you love the world it in turn will love you.

What is the point in being fed up all the time.

Go out and make friends, travel the world, eat good food, get a wife or a mistress or even a boyfriend if you are that way inclined. Drive a flash car, listen to gorgeous music, drink malt whisky, visit art galleries, learn to play an instrument, get drunk, read books, work for charities, knit a rug, collect stamps, surf the net, take nice photographs, paint landscapes, breed koi carp, fly kites, play chess, go fishing, become a scoutmaster, study the stars, take up cookery, go to a specialist brothel, become a beekeeper, grow vegetables, go greyhound racing, etc etc.

Life is what you make it and I would rather spend my 3 score years and ten being happy as apposed to being a miserable sod feeling sorry for myself.

If I can be happy, you can be happy.

Go out and be happy, be so happy that even happy people will say how happy you are.

Regards

Happy Mick

Mick

Seconded, thank you so much for this posting..

Franz

Thank you.

I am also happy not being Berlin Fritz.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

Well said.

Life is what you make it.

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Franz

Thank you.

I am also happy not being Berlin Fritz.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

Ditto

Erik

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
If you love the world it in turn will love you.

Hmm. Sadly, that's one of those pseudo-platitudes that doesn't bear much scrutiny.

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Go out and make friends, travel the world, eat good food, get a wife or a mistress or even a boyfriend if you are that way inclined. Drive a flash car, listen to gorgeous music, drink malt whisky, visit art galleries, learn to play an instrument, get drunk, read books, work for charities, knit a rug, collect stamps, surf the net, take nice photographs, paint landscapes, breed koi carp, fly kites, play chess, go fishing, become a scoutmaster, study the stars, take up cookery, go to a specialist brothel, become a beekeeper, grow vegetables, go greyhound racing, etc etc.

I've got a small number of ex-girlfriends, I play 2 musical instruments, write fiction, have interests ranging from quantum mechanics to archaeology, I listen to lots of great music, own a high-end hi-fi, I drink like it's some kind of contest etc etc... but there is nothing in the world that can atone for having to be alive in it.

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If I can be happy, you can be happy.

Again, that isn't strictly true, is it?

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I am also happy not being Berlin Fritz.

Well there is that! Even I am grateful for small mercies!!!

EW

Gianluigi

Since 1986? You're a man of slow-moving emotions, like me. A lot of people say "move on", but it's not so easy.

I was speaking to a tradesman a few weeks ago when he was doing some work in my apartment. He said that he broke up with his partner six years ago, and that every day since then, he has been apprehensive about running into her by chance. Every time he's out walking around, or shopping, or when he enters a restaurant, etc., he keeps a lookout for her so that he can avoid her and prevent an awkward situation.

Maybe peace and contentment will come some day, but the scar will always be there.

Steve

1980 was annus horibilis. No I have not got over it. It has affected half my adult life, so I hold out no hope for a big change now...

Fredrik

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Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:
1980 was annus horibilis.

1976 was mine.

EW

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Originally posted by Yo-yo Master:
Gianluigi
Since 1986? You're a man of slow-moving emotions, like me. A lot of people say "move on", but it's not so easy.
Steve

Hi YO YO!
Wallowing in nostalgia is not a good thing to do in the long run.
Sometimes it really becomes a way to avoid facing life.
But sometimes it happens that you meet someone or something in your life that you really can replace and that makes seem all the other chances only a compromise.
And maybe you know that compromises has no taste, colour or substance.

Cheers
Gianluigi

This is not the happiest sounding thread I've read so please remember - life is just a bowl of all-bran, you wake up every morning and it's there.

Here's a cheery song:


I study nuclear science, I love my classes
I got a crazy teacher, he wears dark glasses
Things are going great, and they're only getting better
I'm doin' all right, getting good grades
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades

I got a job waiting for my graduation
50 thou' a year will buy a lot of beer
Things are going great, and they're only getting better
I'm doin' all right, getting good grades
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades

Well I'm heavenly blessed and worldly wise
I'm a peeping tom techie with x-ray eyes
Things are going great, and they're only getting better
I'm doin' all right, getting good grades
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades



by Timbuk-three!

"The Hitchhiker's..." actually has a good point.
There is no way we can evaluate an answer to the "meaning of life"-question, if we don't know what we asked for in the first place.
If you're not turned off by semantics, it is worthwhile to ponder what the question really is.
It probably wont produce an answer, but I sometime find the puzzlement a bit relieving.

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Originally posted by ROTF:
This is not the happiest sounding thread I've read so please remember - life is just a bowl of all-bran, you wake up every morning and it's there.

Here's a cheery song:


I study nuclear science, I love my classes
I got a crazy teacher, he wears dark glasses
Things are going great, and they're only getting better
I'm doin' all right, getting good grades
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades

I got a job waiting for my graduation
50 thou' a year will buy a lot of beer
Things are going great, and they're only getting better
I'm doin' all right, getting good grades
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades

Well I'm heavenly blessed and worldly wise
I'm a peeping tom techie with x-ray eyes
Things are going great, and they're only getting better
I'm doin' all right, getting good grades
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades



by Timbuk-three!

Hi ROTF!
I know the song!
Good old times!

Here is a little thought for the day

THE MEANING OF LIFE IS THAT LIFE IS MEANING.

What can this mean? My view to follow sometime soon.

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Earwicker

If you love the world it in turn will love you.

What is the point in being fed up all the time.

Go out and make friends, travel the world, eat good food, get a wife or a mistress or even a boyfriend if you are that way inclined. Drive a flash car, listen to gorgeous music, drink malt whisky, visit art galleries, learn to play an instrument, get drunk, read books, work for charities, knit a rug, collect stamps, surf the net, take nice photographs, paint landscapes, breed koi carp, fly kites, play chess, go fishing, become a scoutmaster, study the stars, take up cookery, go to a specialist brothel, become a beekeeper, grow vegetables, go greyhound racing, etc etc.

Life is what you make it and I would rather spend my 3 score years and ten being happy as apposed to being a miserable sod feeling sorry for myself.

If I can be happy, you can be happy.

Go out and be happy, be so happy that even happy people will say how happy you are.

Regards

Happy Mick

I nominate this for the best Mick post ever!

I only hope that whatever goes on in a "specialist brothel" is unrelated to becoming a scoutmaster, beekeeping, koi carp or greyhounds.

My mother is fond of this maxim: "it makes no difference to the outcome whether you are an optimist or a pessimist. But an optimist enjoys the wait."

(Does anyone know to whom this quote is attibuted? I would need to be quite a lot more middle-aged than I am to write to "devised and introduced by" Nigel Rees, but I'd love to know. I think it may have been Eleanor Roosevelt)

But wine is the root to true happiness I think. I feel mildly confident I could even find something biblical to support that. Not that I need such endorsement with this 'ere exquisite Côte Rôtie, that is about to be denuded of cork, in my hand even now...

Santé

Rod

But wine is the root to true happiness I think. I feel mildly confident I could even find something biblical to support that. [/QUOTE]

Dear Rod,

If you could find something in the bible to support your belief I would not be surprised because your belief does not hold up to close scrutiny

If wine were a true cause of happiness then the more wine you drank the more happy you would become. However, if one checked, the opposite is true. After drinking more and more wine you would feel quite unwell and as you continued you would probably vomit and eventually pass out. If revived and forced to drink even more wine you would of course die from alcoholic poisoning.

Thus we see that what you thought was a true cause of happiness quickly turns to it's opposite. This is true of eating, listening to music, sex or even reading Fritz's Posts and anything else you care to mention.

Regards,

Erik (just having a laugh innit*)

ps - the japanese for carp is koi so no need to say koi carp. Erik the pedant drinking a nice cabernet sauvignon from Chile.

[QUOTE] go to a specialist brothel,
/QUOTE]

Details please.

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Originally posted by erik scothron:
If you could find something in the bible to support your belief I would not be surprised because your belief does not hold up to close scrutiny

To pissed to be bothered

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If wine were a true cause of happiness then the more wine you drank the more happy you would become.

It's working so far though...

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...
quickly turns to it's opposite.

I take your tautological "koi carp", er, carp, and raise you one ropey apostrophe. Your turn

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...even reading Fritz's Posts

Surely even Fritz has never made such a claim?

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Regards,

Erik (just having a laugh innit*)

Wholly reciprocated. Cheers.

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Erik the pedant drinking a nice cabernet sauvignon from Chile.

Then you shall die of hideous poisoning. Apparently (see other thread).

Rod