Some j*** recomendations please

Posted by: Longman on 16 March 2008

I have recently added a couple of Jazz albums to my collection . This was triggered by a spontanious purchase at a car boot sale of an immaculate first pressing of Dave Brubecks greatest hits album . Something told me I knew the track " take five " and as it was only 50p I bought it . When I got it home I found that I loved it , and the sound quaity was amzing . I have since bought an original copy of the album take five ( columbian 6 eye ) and also added Miles davis " Kind of blue " album , also columbian 6 eye . This is just a phenominal album that I have shoved down the throats of anyone who comes to stay at our house !

Anyway , what I am after now are some other recomendations of similiar jazz albums


Regards

Steve
Posted on: 16 March 2008 by Chief Chirpa
Just one from me...



Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else.

He plays alto sax on Kind of Blue. Miles features on this recording too, made a year earlier.

Next!
Posted on: 16 March 2008 by hungryhalibut
Try 'Leroy Walks' by Leroy Vinnegar; it's a fantastic album. Chief's Cannonball recommendation is a great one too.

Nigel
Posted on: 16 March 2008 by Longman
Sorry , I meant to write " Time out " not take five for the album title .

Thanks Chirpa for the recomendation , I will check it and any others that are posted out
Posted on: 16 March 2008 by Pigeon_Fancier
Rather than recommend an album, I'll recommend the good old Beeb - Radio 3 on Friday night has the rather dry but superinformative Alyn Shipton "How to Build a Jazz Library" or something to that effect followed by Jez Nelson who will open your ears to newer and often British jazz. Enjoy!
Posted on: 16 March 2008 by naim_nymph

Herbie Hancock - River: The Joni Letters
Posted on: 17 March 2008 by Oldnslow
Your Brubeck and Miles purchases were great. I'd stick to modern classics for awhile and forget about anything done in the last 20 years or so, as that will give the foundation you need. Here's just a few off the top of my head:

Bill Evans- Portrait in Jazz (Riverside--20 bit remastered)
Billie Holiday-Love Songs (Sony Legacy)--best single CD of early Holiday with Lester Young, in excellent sound
Oliver Nelson-Blues and the Abstract Truth--Impulse remastered edition
Thelonious Monk--Monk's Dream (Sony Legacy)
John Coltrane--Crescent (Impulse remastered edition)
Sonny Rollins- Saxophone Colossus (remastered edition)
Duke Ellington--Far East Suite (RCA remastered)
Louis Armstrong (Essential--2CD on Sony with lots of early classic Armstrong in good sound)
Modern Jazz Quartet-European Concert(Jazz Collectibles--recently reissued double CD of an amazing live Stockholm concert --the original Atlantic recording had phenomenal sound for 1960--hopefully this reissue preserves that)
Oscar Peterson--The Way I Really Play (MPS original--reissued in great sound from 60's from German sessions--my favorite of the very many recordings made by OP)
Shelly Manne--2,3,4--- reissued from Impulse--great late Coleman Hawkings tenor with fabulous piano/vibes from Eddie Costa---worth tracking down

The list is endless, but this is a good start guaranteed to hook you for life.....
Posted on: 17 March 2008 by Sloop John B
2 you cannot go wrong with


Ellington and Hodges







both superaltive albums that I cannot recommend highly enough.


then try Solstice by Ralph Towner





for a whole different perspective



SJB
Posted on: 17 March 2008 by rough edges
Check out www.allaboutjazz.com for some ideas that may be useful.
Regards,
BB
Posted on: 17 March 2008 by Longman
Thanks guys , plenty to get my teeth ( ears ! )into here . Some very interesting suggestions that I am looking forward to
adding to my sadly lacking jazz collection

Steve
Posted on: 17 March 2008 by JWM
Three I LOVE

Modern Jazz Quartet, Pyramid
John Coltrane, A Love Supreme (absolutely classic)
Miles Davis, Porgy & Bess
Posted on: 17 March 2008 by rega1
More miles davis......"blue haze"

Buddy Miles...."them changes" (just saw this album posted for sale for $55.00 USD)

rega1
Posted on: 17 March 2008 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Sloop John B:

then try Solstice by Ralph Towner





for a whole different perspective




SJB, right on ... one of the greatest albums of any kind of music of all time. A true masterpiece.

As is this one, too:

Belonging - Keith Jarrett




And the genius saxophonist Jan Garbarek plays on both albums!

All best,
Fred


Posted on: 17 March 2008 by Marti-C
Great topic Longman.

I'm just starting to apreciate the joy's of jazz myself, after listening to the Naim sample cd's. So any recomendation hear, will no doubt help us and many other forum members starting off on the jazz road.

Cheers,

Marti
Posted on: 17 March 2008 by Max Bass
Before Kind of Blue there was Milestones. . . . and about a 1/2 dozen other great Miles albums with the classic quintet lineup. Check them all out if you can. They're well worth it, and essential in any jazz collection IMHO.

From the same hard bop period, comes the absolute classic, John Coltrane's Giant Steps. Also check out Coltrane's Sound.

Any albums from the Blue Note catalog should cover your hard bop needs.

More classic hard bop: Clifford Brown & Max Roach . The album by the same name is one of the most lyrical, groovin'. . . full of classic bop tunes you'll ever enjoy. Clifforn Brown & Max Roach.

Can not leave out Thelonious Monk Try Brilliant Corners.

1-more . . . . .Ahmad jamal. Live at the Pershing

Enjoy & have fun!!!!

Max
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by Cyrene
quote:
Originally posted by Max Bass:
Before Kind of Blue there was Milestones. . . . and about a 1/2 dozen other great Miles albums with the classic quintet lineup. Check them all out if you can. They're well worth it, and essential in any jazz collection IMHO.
Max

These formed the 'backbone' of my Miles collection and a re still 'my old slippers' when I need to stick on something warm and familiar.
Relaxin' is an absolute classic; forget all that stuff you read about the out of tune tenor, a cocktail pianist and a couple of herione junkies, it's pure music making from the chiming intro to the first track.
You can get many forms of these discs (box sets, K2 remasters and so on) but either way, you're in for a treat.
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by JamieL
One Miles Davis album to consider is 'In A Silent Way', but be warned that it is one of his first electric albums.

If it is the pure acoustic sound that appeals, then don't bother with it, but if it is the gentle bluesy quality of 'Kind of Blue', 'In A Silent Way' is worth trying.

Be very wary of the albums after 'In A Silent Way', 'Bitches Brew' is very popular, but probably more accessible to a rock audience. The structure of the music moves away from melody in his 70s music. I do like some of it when in the mood, but not for the same reasons as I like 'Kind of Blue' and 'In A Silent Way'.

I must second those who suggest 'Somethin' Else' by Cannonball Adderley, lovely album.

Thelonious Monk is well worth a try, 'Monks Music' would be my choice, it has John Coltrane (sax) and Art Blakey (drums) and a host of great names playing in the septet.

Art Blakey 'Moanin' is a 50s album I would also recommend, you would almost certainly recognize the title track.

Such a big question, but it is probably a good idea to go to amazon, type in the many suggestions on this page and see if they have samples to try, although 30 seconds of a 10 minute jazz track will not quite give you the depth of the solos, it will let you know the type of sound the band has.

By the way, has anyone here listened to Tommy Chase 'Groove Merchant', such a fun jazz album from 1988, but sounds straight from 1958?
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by nickarran
What a useful thread !!!!!!

... and Charle Mingus. Well, early to mid Charlie Mingus, later stuff gets a bit weird.

"Ah Umm" is my favorite, great bass and sax and a driving beat on a good hifi. "Changes" has some great bits too.

.. and Wayne Shorter "speak no evil" with Freddie Hubbard on trumpet. Excellent.

Must get that Cannonball Adderley "somethin else" - he was a god of sax players and I only have him playing with Miles Davis.
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by rega1
I agree nickarran, this is great. I now have a nice list for when I head to the vinyl store in Chicago this weekend, thanks for all the suggestions everyone.

rega1
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by droodzilla
quote:
.. and Wayne Shorter "speak no evil" with Freddie Hubbard on trumpet. Excellent.

I second that one. I was going to chip in with a Wayne Shorter recommendation, but you've saved me the trouble! Actually, everything I've heard by him has been excellent.
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by mikeeschman
"Solo Monk" is the best jazz album I've ever heard.

On the Jazzman label, used lp only,
Dizzy Gillespie "I'll never go back to Georgia"
- is great sound, best bebop ever.
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by Geoff P
quote:
Must get that Cannonball Adderley "somethin else" - he was a god of sax players and I only have him playing with Miles Davis
....just a small point but Miles is also on 'somethin else'. In fact Miles could just aswell have been the headline name on that one. they share equal importance there.

For more Cannonball I recommend

Posted on: 18 March 2008 by Guido Fawkes
My favourite jazz records (if they are jazz) include

Thompson's Tangos and Other Soft Dances by Barbara Thompson
Never Say Goodbye by Barbara Thompson
Mother Earth by Barbara Thompson
Heavenly Bodies by Barbara Thompson
Soft Machine 3, 4, 5 and 6
A Love Supreme by John Coltrane
The Complete Gramercy Five Sessions by Artie Shaw
The Grand Wazoo - Frank Zappa and the Mothers
To Pagham and Beyond - Skin Alley

Even if they are not jazz they are still mighty fine elpees.

ATB Rotf
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by rega1
As is this one, too:

Belonging - Keith Jarrett




And the genius saxophonist Jan Garbarek plays on both albums!

All best,
Fred

I took this suggestion and WOW. I just sat down for a nice dinner while having a listen and I am truly a new fan. GREAT suggestion!!!

rega1
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by DeltaSigma
Thelonious Monk is a good choice - I find his music very accessible and brilliant at the same time. Some of his best work (IMO) can be found on Misterioso (with Johnny Griffin), Monk's Dream, Monk and Criss-Cross. You might also try Live at the It Club and the second Misterioso (with Charlie Rouse).

In addition to the Miles Davis albums mentioned above, his later work (from the mid 60s) can be a little harder to get used to, but is well worth the effort as it will blow your mind once you get into it (I am speaking here about his second quintet with Hancock, Shorter, Williams and Carter, starting with ESP and ending with Filles De Kilimanjaro - after this, he becomes progressively more rock oriented as mentioned above).

Another brilliant artist to try is Charles Mingus, but you should start with Ah Um, then Tijuana Moods and go from there. The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is one of his most brilliant albums but also a liitle more abstract (IMV) so you should probably leave that for later.

Others have mentioned Coltrane's Love Supreme and Giant Steps and these are great but you could also try Blue Train and Black Pearls as they are very rewarding to listen to as well.


You have a fascinating and thrilling voyage of discovery ahead of you. Enjoy.

Michael
Posted on: 18 March 2008 by Nathan Wilkes
Another useful site for those new to jazz is http://home.austarnet.com.au/petersykes/jazz100/.