J***/blues clubs & pizza in Chicago
Posted by: Rasher on 06 April 2005
I'm going to Chicago next week because I've not been there before, and therefore don't know the jazz/blues haunts to go to and where to get the best pizza. Recommendations appreciated.
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Anna Tooth
Hi Rasher
The only one I know, but it's a great one, is the Green Mill. It's a really well respected jazz club with lots of good music on. I couldn't find a site on the net for them, but here's an article written about it:
info on green mill
Good luck!
Anna
The only one I know, but it's a great one, is the Green Mill. It's a really well respected jazz club with lots of good music on. I couldn't find a site on the net for them, but here's an article written about it:
info on green mill
Good luck!
Anna
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Rasher
Thanks Anna.
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by NaimDropper
Famous and GOOD pizza in Chicago:
Giordano's (my favorite)
Connie's (a chain, but amazingly good)
Carmen's (don't know if they're still in business but quite good)
Gino's (more famous than good in my book, YMMV)
When trying an established specialty pizza place I always order their signature dish, gives them a chance to put their best foot forward.
You may not find shrimp and corn on the list of options (as I found visiting the UK). Just give yourself over to the mounds of cheese, peppers, onions, sausage etc. sandwiched between layers of crust... Most of these places have such thick slices that one is enough. Two is a belly-buster, at least for me.
I have not lived there since 1986 but every visit to the Windy City includes a stop at Connie's or Giordano's.
You can get a REAL hot dog in Chicago too.
And a visit to most any Greek diner yields a tasty Giro...
All this is making me hungry.
David
Giordano's (my favorite)
Connie's (a chain, but amazingly good)
Carmen's (don't know if they're still in business but quite good)
Gino's (more famous than good in my book, YMMV)
When trying an established specialty pizza place I always order their signature dish, gives them a chance to put their best foot forward.
You may not find shrimp and corn on the list of options (as I found visiting the UK). Just give yourself over to the mounds of cheese, peppers, onions, sausage etc. sandwiched between layers of crust... Most of these places have such thick slices that one is enough. Two is a belly-buster, at least for me.
I have not lived there since 1986 but every visit to the Windy City includes a stop at Connie's or Giordano's.
You can get a REAL hot dog in Chicago too.
And a visit to most any Greek diner yields a tasty Giro...
All this is making me hungry.
David
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Stephen H
I'd give a big thumbs up to "Buddy Guys Legends". It's a fantastic little venue, and not too far from downtown, so there's not so much worry about venturing southside for some of the other well known clubs. The southside has a bit of a reputation, even amongst locals I believe.
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by John L
Rasher,
The Windy City welcomes you and I heard that Mayor Daley was going to give you the key to the city! Where are you staying while you are in town? Let me know and I can give you some different places to try. Anna is correct about Green Mill; I believe that Fred Simon used to play there on occasion.
John Litwin
The Windy City welcomes you and I heard that Mayor Daley was going to give you the key to the city! Where are you staying while you are in town? Let me know and I can give you some different places to try. Anna is correct about Green Mill; I believe that Fred Simon used to play there on occasion.
John Litwin
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Rasher
Thanks guys. If the southside has a reputation, then that's where I should go. That suits me fine. I've walked through the Bronx before now and it never worried me.
I'm staying here
I'm staying here
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Dan M
Rasher,
Years ago I had a great time at the Checkerboard Club/Bar (IIRC) -- not in the best part of town however. My vote for pizza goes to Geno's East in Downtown - amazing deep dish.
cheers
Dan
Years ago I had a great time at the Checkerboard Club/Bar (IIRC) -- not in the best part of town however. My vote for pizza goes to Geno's East in Downtown - amazing deep dish.
cheers
Dan
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Dave J
Great choice of city, it's a marvellous place.
If you want to visit a few decent record/cd stores whilst you're there check out centrestage. Jazz Record Mart on E. St Louis is very good, for example.
I was a bit disappointed with Gino's East last time I was there. It's no longer at the original address just off Michigan Ave. and the pizza wasn't quite what it was. Nevertheless, I'd kill for one right now.
Music venues should definitely include Buddy Guy's but also try the House of Blues . It's not by any means as authentic as Legends but I notice that Steve Vai and Eric Sardinas are playing there next Wednesday.
Have a great trip.
Dave
If you want to visit a few decent record/cd stores whilst you're there check out centrestage. Jazz Record Mart on E. St Louis is very good, for example.
I was a bit disappointed with Gino's East last time I was there. It's no longer at the original address just off Michigan Ave. and the pizza wasn't quite what it was. Nevertheless, I'd kill for one right now.
Music venues should definitely include Buddy Guy's but also try the House of Blues . It's not by any means as authentic as Legends but I notice that Steve Vai and Eric Sardinas are playing there next Wednesday.
Have a great trip.
Dave
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Dave J
Quick addendum: Steve Vai is sold out on Wednesday, but there are tickets available for Friday if you book online.
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by John L
The Knickerbocker is a very nice hotel. If you are bringing a significant other or someone who likes to shop watch out. The hotel is right off Michigan Avenue and the area is known as “The Magnificent Mile” for all of the shopping (spending money) that one can do while staying there. You are also right by the Jazz Record Mart; they have an excellent selection of vinyl and CD’s. Occasionally they will have someone playing live in the store. There are a few clubs right there for live music but I am not familiar with them (the concierge would probably know).
A pizza place (my favorite thin crust) to try is O'Fame in the Lincoln Park neighborhood and is a short cab ride from your hotel (within 5 miles). ProMusica, the local Naim Dealer, is a short walk from O’Fame. Also, from O’Fame you can walk (approximately 3 blocks) to Kingston Mines and B.L.U.E.S on Halsted Street, both are blues clubs, for some live entertainment. Another good website is Metromix.com for entertainment options.
For something a little bit different, you can try the Bucktown neighborhood where The Map Room and The Charleston are located. The Map Room has an excellent selection of beer, but I prefer The Charleston for entertainment. Anybody that I have ever brought there thought it was a great place. It is a smallish smoky bar with tables and bar stools where you can usually find some good live jazz.
Let me know if you need some more ideas. When are you going to be in Chicago?
John Litwin
A pizza place (my favorite thin crust) to try is O'Fame in the Lincoln Park neighborhood and is a short cab ride from your hotel (within 5 miles). ProMusica, the local Naim Dealer, is a short walk from O’Fame. Also, from O’Fame you can walk (approximately 3 blocks) to Kingston Mines and B.L.U.E.S on Halsted Street, both are blues clubs, for some live entertainment. Another good website is Metromix.com for entertainment options.
For something a little bit different, you can try the Bucktown neighborhood where The Map Room and The Charleston are located. The Map Room has an excellent selection of beer, but I prefer The Charleston for entertainment. Anybody that I have ever brought there thought it was a great place. It is a smallish smoky bar with tables and bar stools where you can usually find some good live jazz.
Let me know if you need some more ideas. When are you going to be in Chicago?
John Litwin
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by David Dever
I second Anna's recommendation of the Green Mill–quite a few Naim Label acts play there on a frequent basis.
Also, I recommend that you try:
the HotHouse
31 East Balbo:
http://www.hothouse.net
Martyr's
3855 North Lincoln Avenue (North Central)
http://www.martyrslive.com
Pizza D.O.C.
2251 W. Lawrence Avenue (Lincoln Square)
Also, I recommend that you try:
the HotHouse
31 East Balbo:
http://www.hothouse.net
Martyr's
3855 North Lincoln Avenue (North Central)
http://www.martyrslive.com
Pizza D.O.C.
2251 W. Lawrence Avenue (Lincoln Square)
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Rasher
Oh Man, I'm gonna enjoy this trip. Thanks guys. Steve Via not my taste, but thanks for the effort Dave.
I get in next Friday morning after a long flight to face a new long day - so I'll be wilting by the end of the evening - but it's no sleep 'till bedtime!
I'm going with some buddies, so no girlie shopping distractions. There's 3 of us and we try to do a new city in the USA every year.
I get in next Friday morning after a long flight to face a new long day - so I'll be wilting by the end of the evening - but it's no sleep 'till bedtime!
I'm going with some buddies, so no girlie shopping distractions. There's 3 of us and we try to do a new city in the USA every year.
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by NaimDropper
Have a great time!
You are going to my favorite city in the USA.
David
You are going to my favorite city in the USA.
David
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Rasher
San Fransisco is mine - so far!
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Keith Tish
Very interested in this thread as I will be in the windy city for work in mid May. Keep ideas flowing please. Any good HiFi shops I could raid for new/exdem/used stuff. Not much comes up on Google search and don't have any stereophool or TAS around to go trawling through ads for.Thanks.
Keith
Keith
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Adam Meredith
I can only recommend Pro Musica - give my regards to Ken & John.
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by John L
Rasher,
How was your trip? What did you do during your trip to Chicago?
John Litwin
How was your trip? What did you do during your trip to Chicago?
John Litwin
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Rasher
Hi John
Got there Friday morning, did some shopping and had lunch at Giordano's after having to wait a while propping up the bar because of the lunchtime crowd. I have to admit to being disappointed by the deep pan pizza. Heavy dough, 1 pint of minced tinned tomatoes & 2 LBs of half melted congealed cheese does not IMHO make a pizza. But there you go - we all have different tastes, and I have now at least tried the Chicago pizza properly. We were amazed to see two huge guys eating one each with a side salad. One guy never slowed and then started to help his buddy out with his.
I tried a lot of the beers - especially the bottled ones. I especially like the red beer with the goose head on the label, but can't remember what it's called. Goosehead or something probably. By the graphics, I imagine it claims to be of Irish extraction.
Went up Big John after lunch and then had a look at the shops. Spent Friday night at Buddy Guy's Legends Bar where there was a great acoustic set with a young guy on a National guitar, followed by a local guy who wanted to be Gary Moore - complete with turned around humbucker on his Les Paul, followed by a not so good blues band. Saturday morning I started in Northwestern Memorial Hospital on a drip for some sort of apoplectic shock that was caused probably by some Crawfish which caused my throat to swell to closing point - which was fairly scary, but after a late breakfast at Lou Mitchell's on Jackson Blvd we headed off to some districts and eventually ended up in Evanston, so pulled back a little into town to go to the Green Mill. There was a band from New Orleans doing trad jazz that night that isn't really my thing, so after hitting a few bars around the Near North area we ended up in a basement bar to spend the night at the Underground Wonder Bar on East Walton watching Lonnie Walker and her band - and they were great. Really brilliant.
Sunday morning I had to go out to Oak Park to see some Frank Lloyd Wright houses, as he is my hero, do the tour, get breakfast at a diner there, get back to town to do some shopping to get my wife & kids gifts to take back, got on a boat tour with lots of coffee for the 90 min river & lake trip - bought an ipod at the Apple shop where I was standing next to a very sweaty and likely heart attack victim Elvis Costello, got down to Chinatown - had a meal, went up the Sears tower at dusk, and then found Chicago closed for Sunday night. We did a few bars, but it was pretty dead. Up at 5.00am for the flight home - straight to bed at home and into the office first thing Tuesday morning. Easy.
I'm going to try to get a weekend in Seattle later in the year to find some Rock clubs.
I liked Chicago but it isn't a patch on New York or San Fransico. I was warming to it more the longer I was there but found it hard to search out stuff going on. It really isn't always obvious and sometimes seemed a little dead. I like a lot going on. Great place though and I really enjoyed it. I will certainly remember it.
The EL was very slow and eventually we gave up on it and used cabs instead because we couldn't afford to waste the time waiting around to get places. We did loads of stuff though and I'm sure I've forgotten half the things we did. I'm sure I'll be back. I just wish there were more hours in the day. 3 nights isn't enough, especially when the first day is 30 hours without sleep and I'm fighting it.
Got there Friday morning, did some shopping and had lunch at Giordano's after having to wait a while propping up the bar because of the lunchtime crowd. I have to admit to being disappointed by the deep pan pizza. Heavy dough, 1 pint of minced tinned tomatoes & 2 LBs of half melted congealed cheese does not IMHO make a pizza. But there you go - we all have different tastes, and I have now at least tried the Chicago pizza properly. We were amazed to see two huge guys eating one each with a side salad. One guy never slowed and then started to help his buddy out with his.
I tried a lot of the beers - especially the bottled ones. I especially like the red beer with the goose head on the label, but can't remember what it's called. Goosehead or something probably. By the graphics, I imagine it claims to be of Irish extraction.
Went up Big John after lunch and then had a look at the shops. Spent Friday night at Buddy Guy's Legends Bar where there was a great acoustic set with a young guy on a National guitar, followed by a local guy who wanted to be Gary Moore - complete with turned around humbucker on his Les Paul, followed by a not so good blues band. Saturday morning I started in Northwestern Memorial Hospital on a drip for some sort of apoplectic shock that was caused probably by some Crawfish which caused my throat to swell to closing point - which was fairly scary, but after a late breakfast at Lou Mitchell's on Jackson Blvd we headed off to some districts and eventually ended up in Evanston, so pulled back a little into town to go to the Green Mill. There was a band from New Orleans doing trad jazz that night that isn't really my thing, so after hitting a few bars around the Near North area we ended up in a basement bar to spend the night at the Underground Wonder Bar on East Walton watching Lonnie Walker and her band - and they were great. Really brilliant.
Sunday morning I had to go out to Oak Park to see some Frank Lloyd Wright houses, as he is my hero, do the tour, get breakfast at a diner there, get back to town to do some shopping to get my wife & kids gifts to take back, got on a boat tour with lots of coffee for the 90 min river & lake trip - bought an ipod at the Apple shop where I was standing next to a very sweaty and likely heart attack victim Elvis Costello, got down to Chinatown - had a meal, went up the Sears tower at dusk, and then found Chicago closed for Sunday night. We did a few bars, but it was pretty dead. Up at 5.00am for the flight home - straight to bed at home and into the office first thing Tuesday morning. Easy.
I'm going to try to get a weekend in Seattle later in the year to find some Rock clubs.
I liked Chicago but it isn't a patch on New York or San Fransico. I was warming to it more the longer I was there but found it hard to search out stuff going on. It really isn't always obvious and sometimes seemed a little dead. I like a lot going on. Great place though and I really enjoyed it. I will certainly remember it.
The EL was very slow and eventually we gave up on it and used cabs instead because we couldn't afford to waste the time waiting around to get places. We did loads of stuff though and I'm sure I've forgotten half the things we did. I'm sure I'll be back. I just wish there were more hours in the day. 3 nights isn't enough, especially when the first day is 30 hours without sleep and I'm fighting it.
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Derek Wright
Why up at 5am for flight home - I thought all flights to the UK were overnight
If I had thought you would be doing tourist things I would have advised you to do the river trip rather than the River and Lake trip so as to avoid the wait for the lock gates to open and shut.
Just think if you had gone to "County" you could have got all the key signatures <g>
If you are a Frank Lloyd Wright fan - go to Phoenix and visit the Talliesen West Studio where he lived and ran his business in the winter and look round one of his later homes. Also visit the Grady Gamage Auditorium at U of Ariz at Tempe part of the greater Phoenix metro area
If I had thought you would be doing tourist things I would have advised you to do the river trip rather than the River and Lake trip so as to avoid the wait for the lock gates to open and shut.
Just think if you had gone to "County" you could have got all the key signatures <g>
If you are a Frank Lloyd Wright fan - go to Phoenix and visit the Talliesen West Studio where he lived and ran his business in the winter and look round one of his later homes. Also visit the Grady Gamage Auditorium at U of Ariz at Tempe part of the greater Phoenix metro area
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Rasher
Derek - Flew with American Airlines. Flight back was 9.00am so I landed Heathrow at 10.30pm UK time. Perfect.
Yes, I went to Pheonix about 1996-7. I did the LA, San Diego, Pheonix, Las Legas, Death Valley, route 66 thing, and on up to Yosemite. That was before I had children and had time on my hands. . Family holidays are Florida now
Still, can't complain. They adore it. My little boy is 2 now and might get to actually go on some baby rides next time. He just missed out last time by about 3 weeks because he wasn't entirely on his feet.
Yes, I went to Pheonix about 1996-7. I did the LA, San Diego, Pheonix, Las Legas, Death Valley, route 66 thing, and on up to Yosemite. That was before I had children and had time on my hands. . Family holidays are Florida now
Still, can't complain. They adore it. My little boy is 2 now and might get to actually go on some baby rides next time. He just missed out last time by about 3 weeks because he wasn't entirely on his feet.
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Many years ago the windy city came to live with me, plus wonderful singing voice and beautiful Martin guitar, unfortunately he stayed, and is now a very popular venue in this City with many folk, it's a pity he's a total wanker though, perhaps Chicago Town should take him back, or one one of you other Egoists³ put him up or book him for a Bamitzfa ot two, innit.
Fritz Von You Guys talk more rubbish than me sometimes, have you no imagination ?
Fritz Von You Guys talk more rubbish than me sometimes, have you no imagination ?
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Derek Wright
Rasher - I do not knock Florida or the Theme Parks - and in the right place in Florida you can see some super wild life - pity it is being turned inot a mass housing estate and golf course
Back to FL Wright - last year I met a chap who had met FLW, his father was an architect who had worked /trained with FLW at Taliessin West, - so I am only 2 degrees from FLW.
Back to FL Wright - last year I met a chap who had met FLW, his father was an architect who had worked /trained with FLW at Taliessin West, - so I am only 2 degrees from FLW.
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Gentlemen I really do not wish to spoil your obvious family fun here, but talking of the MAJORITY of Floridan's who live in abject poverty, many of who'm happen to be Black, and many of who'm as well as having their votes ballsed up by Jeb, etc, happen to be presently serving in Iraq to name but a few places, and starngely enough those who I knowe haven't the slightest incline in returning there, (I wonder WHY ?)
Fritz Von The majority of German visitors to the US land in good old Florida too, innit for your information. Marvellous family destination I hear ? if you happen to be affluent and white.
Fritz Von The majority of German visitors to the US land in good old Florida too, innit for your information. Marvellous family destination I hear ? if you happen to be affluent and white.
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Rasher
I have a friend who is vegan. He had an argument with a pub landlord here about hunting and because of that, he boycotts his pub and tells his mates to too. I think he now spends most of his time uncovering secret meat-eaters and then painting an upside-down cross on their front doors in the middle of the night. Seems opinions are one way only. If you also want to hide in your box Fritz and occasionally throw a toy out, then that's fine - but I find interaction far more effective personally.
We can make political points about whichever piece of grass we stand on over the whole of the planet, but I am not about to drum them into my 2 year old son and 7 year old daughter and tell them that Disney World will consume their souls just now thanks! I'm sure you will have many opportunities to shatter their dreams when they are older. Innocence is fragile enough. I had no idea you were so bitter. I look over your posts and I see only sneering. There are wrongs to right, I know, but don't let it consume you completely.
We can make political points about whichever piece of grass we stand on over the whole of the planet, but I am not about to drum them into my 2 year old son and 7 year old daughter and tell them that Disney World will consume their souls just now thanks! I'm sure you will have many opportunities to shatter their dreams when they are older. Innocence is fragile enough. I had no idea you were so bitter. I look over your posts and I see only sneering. There are wrongs to right, I know, but don't let it consume you completely.
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Does your vegan friend eat honey my friend ?