baby with colic any advice?

As you asked before about sleeping patterns and dummies, and got lots of opinions and experiences from people who'd been through the same thing, though they are all different. I can understand you maybe getting similar opinions from 'those in the know again', but do you really think this is the place to ask ? Even if you find a common denominator it still may be not the best one for your child and your circumstances, therefore surely the local Baby Doc is once again the safest answer, even if you do nag them/him/her to death, that's what they're there for, innit.

Fritz Von You know it makes sense

A visit to a cranial osteopath may well help.

Fritz, if I recall correctly, it was somebody else who asked the same question - and it was a few months ago.

Ok, But my answer/opinion stays exactly the same, Why should it differ, innit ?


Fritz Von Could have sworn he was called Thomas too ?

My answer stays the same too - cranial osteopathy.

We had a few weeks of this with our older son and it was sheer hell. My sympathies are with you. I reckon in his first 9 weeks or so my wife and I didn't get more than 15 or 20 minutes sleep at a time. We were both at the end of our tether and one night we put him into his own room (his cot had been in our bedroom until then). That night, for the first time, he slept for several hours, completely uninterrupted. He never looked back. Either he just grew out of it, or it was something to do with sleeping in our room.
In retrospect we also think it may have been hunger-related. At that time the advice we got was to get into a routine as quickly as possible and we were quite strict with his feeding. With our second son however we were much more relaxed and he was fed on demand. He was a much more relaxed, contented baby.

Fritz,

Yes it was me that asked about sleeping patterns a while ago. There were some usefull suggestions so why not ask about a different developing problem that is troublesome. I would agree that this wouldn't be the most appropriate place to ask the question does my baby have colic? that is for a qualified medical person. However, I do feel that having sought medical advice and reached the point where there is nothing else that can be advised other that wait, then seeking advice from a wider group such as this is appropriate.

I don't really see any difference between should I buy a Honda civic type R for example and my question. A more appropriate place for the former question could be a car based forum, honda dealer etc.. that question is posed on here as there are many car owners some of who have experienced the specific car in question. Following the same logic there are many people on this forum with children some of whom will have had similar problem that my boy has.


Dean F,

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check out a cranial osteopath soon, I have a friend whose child had Indian head massage for colic and swears by it. I was sceptical but if cranial osteopathy can help the trapped wind in particular then it will be worth a try.

TomK,

Thanks for the sympathy and possible suggestion of trying a separate room for the baby I may give it go. I think that colic may make the baby more suceptible to being woken by minor nightime noises so a separate room may help because of this.


Brendan

Fritz,

why don't you just f*ck off and quit telling us what we can and can't discuss. Are you some new sort of Internet Thought Police ?

Thank you most kindly young Sir for implying that I do actually even have the capacity to think on occassion, such compliments come my way very seldomely these days, due mainly to my trackin I feel? so your wit hit the spot wonderfully with your obvious overseas Nationalistic bullshit; present in so many of your blind ilk around the world unfortunately ? Many of you are simply 'beyond contact', but I also fortunately have had the great pleasure & privelage of knowing and being friends with many a Jock and Paddy living both at home and overseas (as well as growing up with them in East London) who far far outway your kind, and laugh at the likes of you and your primitive Chavesque verbal, so keep up the good work, and may your God go with you & your profits, innit.

Fritz Von I'm looking for a good abortion clinic in Bayern, maybe you can reccommend one me old hypocryte, it's not for me you understand, it's for me mate Dave's bird, she's insured too³

P.S. No sarcasm in my above scribe is indeed intended, and if you any so find then ignore it, as it's pure opinion and thought on my part, and I seriously wonder why you have the incline to waste so much of my and other people's precious time, I trust/hope you are a Non Voter for the EU-Topian Constitution in general as an overseas 'money earner' because serious integrated European's (not England) can very well do without the likes of folk with your mentality and arrogance John.

Hammers back where they belong, so that's allright then, and why don't you spell fuck correctly. or is it taboo in your little blinkered world, innit ?

Pish: If you simply ignore my posts like the 99% good on yers, if yer choose to Gobshite, expect a reply (If & when I so desire and see fit, innit) it's as simple as you, I mean that:

Brendan me old China, naturally you're quite right to pose any questions you wish, and I truly hope you find some answers that appeal to you and she who must be obeyed, I do note a lack of professional opinion though this time, as I suspect the first round sufficed, if yer get me drift ?

Fritz Von All the best and don't chuck the used nappies out ov der car winders (at speed in Wiltshire at least) cos it upsets the locals, and yer may well have our Mick's pals after yers, never mind his garden gnomes and gypsy friends, innit

My wife's a gp and she was very sceptical but we got some cranial osteopathy treatment for our second baby and it did help.

My daughter is 17 now, so it's a long time ago, but she suffered badly with colic. We were recommended INFACOL, which worked for her. We also eventually resorted to a dummy (against our better judgement at the time), and that helped also, without any obvious long term side-effects. Good Luck - I know how distressing it is, especially with sleep deprivation as well.
Steve D

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Originally posted by Brian OReilly:
Fritz,

why don't you just f*ck off and quit telling us what we can and can't discuss. Are you some new sort of Internet Thought Police ?

Yee Cannie Say that !!!

Hi brendan.
Our daughter had colic.Big time. We tried everything on the market.Different brands of milk, goats/soy, anything. All a waste of money. Cranial osteopathy was great for 24hrs, but the next day, back to square one. Eventually we tried yet another waste of money (£10ish) on some stuff called colief. Well bugger me, the stuff actually worked. In reality it changed our lives.It's a v.small bottle of drops that you add to milk, 4hrs before feeding. Couldn't believe it would do anything, but it worked. Their helpline is 0800 0281187. Honestly, give it a go.
matt.

There is old medical proverb which says; 'Where large numbers of different treatments exist for a condition it is likely that none of them are very good.'

I'm sure all the suggestions promoted here have helped some people, some of the time, but nobody all of the time.

I hope you find 'your' solution to the colic problem. For the vast number of people I encounter it gets better when the baby gets older, completely irrespective of what you do in the meantime. This solution works all of the time in fact. Provided you remain sane your child will not suffer from the effects of colic, assuming that they are thriving and well. I say this not to be cynical (or unsympathetic) but to caution you from driving yourselves totally to distraction looking for a simple 'fix' that may not exist.

Bruce

Wife sent me out to buy comfrey pellets which in appropriate solution seemed to help babies/us.

You have my sympathy too (for what it may be worth). Our first - a boy - suffered terrible colic. We hated the feeding process, as each time we knew that shortly after the feed he was going to erupt! Infants are designed such that at 6 weeks or so they have the volume button at 11. Any boy it gets to you...
The best remedy we found was infacol (orange flavour if I recall correctly). Although to be honest I also think persistence with the winding process also helps. In the end his troubles (and ours) gradually lessened although he was two before sleeping through the night (he still wakes but that natural).

Our second child - a girl - has been a delight. She's the most placid, even tempered thing ever, (even thought she's suffered with bad eczema since birth). Maybe it's because the parents are more confident. Certainly this time round my wife insisted on a fairly strict regime rather than feeding strictly on demand - it worked anyway.

At the end of the day colic will pass. It seems like it's going on forever, but after a time you'll wonder what all the fuss was about. Something else will arrive to worry and torment, (our son now won't eat anything apart from the sort of crap that you'd see in Jamie Olivers School dinners programme, while our daughter (still just 6 months) is munching on slices or cucumber and enjoying her pasta and butternut squash puree).

Kids eh

Have a look at this:

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/toddler/toddlerills/todallergy/1201468.html

http://www.lactose.co.uk/

And explorer the possibilities with your baby doc. Maybe the colics are caused by liver fatigue, food allergies, lactose intolerance, and even stress!

Bye.

ARC,

I'm a new Dad too to 3.5 months Rhiannon and she suffers occasiona Colic although it doesn't seem too problematic. My wife has been told that breastfed babies suffer less with colic which may explain why ours seems OK although we're now supplementing her with some formula stuff too (and she does seem to be a bit more windy after it)

One other thing I have found very useful is a strange 'sit ups' technique I developed myself. Basically I sit her down on the floor and support her back and neck in a seated position, then I gently lower her down so she is lying flat on her back and then bring her back up to the seated position - kind of like she's doing sit-ups but I'm the one doing all the work! Seems to cause her to burp almost immediately and problem solved. Interestingly I can tell when she's got colic because she tenses up and sort of resists the sit-up so obviously you have to be gentle.

I hope this helps you as much as it has helped us and good luck!

Jonathan

Lovely name ! or am I repeating myself again, I forgot to remember !

You're likely to be the one that joins a conversation half way through. Without knowing the subject and without any possibility of adding any value.

Yawn

Phew, Thanks, That's a relief Lucky they don't get colic here, eh !! John, in fact they don't even have babys here anymore, only perfectly healthy comedians on demand, innit.

... when I said wife got me to buy ..... for 'colic', it was fennel granules (comfrey for fertilizing/bruise-treatment she says...).