Recommend me some: Genesis / Yes / Caravan

Collins wasn't there - I think it was Mike Clark but I could be wrong.

just googled it - May 20th 1980 - blimey, 30 years ago!!!!!

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Originally posted by Gary Shaw:

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Originally posted by Richard Dane:

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Originally posted by ROTF:
The only Genesis elpee that has really stood the test of time for me is


Thirded!
It contains The Knife, which was surely the finest moment for this particular band.

ROTF, you took the words right out of my, er... keyboard!

I would fourth that.

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Originally posted by MilesSmiles:

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Originally posted by Gary Shaw:

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Originally posted by Richard Dane:

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Originally posted by ROTF:
The only Genesis elpee that has really stood the test of time for me is


Thirded!
It contains The Knife, which was surely the finest moment for this particular band.

ROTF, you took the words right out of my, er... keyboard!

I would fourth that.

Whilst I am sure all the fans of The Knife will not agree ( and it is a track I am quite partial to), in a recent poll of the top Genesis songs on the official Genesis forum (and this forum is frequented by a lot of passionate fans) The Knife did not make it into their top 20. Here is the list and I am glad to say my no 1 Genesis track was no 1 - Firth of Fifth.

The Knife came in at no 97 Other tracks from Trespass came in at 27 (Stagnation), 96(Visions of Angels), 115 (White Mountain), 147(Dusk), 154 (Looking for Someone). Does not seem to be a favourite album amongst the fans.

Incidentally, their best album Trick of the Tail, got 6 out of 8 tracks into the top 20.

1 Firth of Fifth 116
2 One For the Vine 115
3 Entangled 115
4 Blood on the Rooftops 115
5 Supper's Ready 111
6 Mad Man Moon 110
7 Ripples 109
8 Los Endos 109
9 Afterglow 109
10 Cinema Show 108
11 In the Cage 108
12 Carpet Crawlers 108
13 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 107
14 ...In that Quiet Earth 107
15 Squonk 107
16 Eleventh Earl of Mar 106
17 Dancing With the Moonlit Knight 105
18 Dance on a Volcano 105
19 The Musical Box 102
20 Heathaze 102

Wind and Wuthering did well also, with 5 tracks in the top 20. Well it is one of their finest.

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Incidentally, their best album Trick of the Tail,

Strange - I think that is one of the worst records I've ever had the misfortune to own without one good moment on it - quite horrible from start to finish. I gave it away to another forum member along with Wind and Wuthering, which while a lot better was highly unlikely to ever find a place on my turntable.

It is difficult to say what depresses me about this music, but I think it starts with the lack of good honest songs and the vocals are just plain awful. The musical competence of the instrumentalists is not in doubt they are good players - I think it was Melody Maker that wrote they know how to play, but not what to play. To me they sound like a band impersonating a prog-rock group rather than a group that really meant it. I may be doing them a great disservice, but that is the way it seems to me.

The mid-70s was a bit of a lull for pop music after the early 70s - the radio was full of the Eagles and similar, so prog-rock fans hoped for more from a band with Genesis's reputation.

Get 'em out by Friday - the best non-Trespass song they ever did is not on your list either.

Sorry (didn't mean to turn in to a grumpy old man) - happy new year (I think I've just broken one of my resolutions #9).

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Sorry (didn't mean to turn in to a grumpy old man) - happy new year (I think I've just broken one of my resolutions #9).

You're not grumpy. It's all a bit of fun. At the end of the day you like Trespass but otherwise you are not a fan. Bottom line is we won't agree but hey that's what makes us all different.

Anyway, I am off to play one of my other favourite Genesis tracks, Harold the Barrel. Some of Gabriel's finest poetry. Should have been top 10.

News:

A well-known Bognor restaurant-owner disappeared
early this morning.
Last seen in a mouse-brown overcoat,
suitably camouflaged,
they saw him catch a train.


Man-in-the-street:

"Father of three its disgusting"
"Such a horrible thing to do"
Harold the Barrel cut off his toes and he served them all
for tea
"Can't go far", "He can't go far".
"Hasn't got a leg to stand on"
"He can't go far".


Man-on-the-spot:

I'm standing in a doorway on the main square
tension is mounting
There's a restless crowd of angry people


Man-on-the-council:

"More than we've ever seen.
- had to tighten up security"

Over to the scene at the town hall
The Lord Mayor's ready to speak


Lord Mayor:

"Man of suspicion, you can't last long, the British Public
is on our side"


British Public:

"Can't last long", "You can't last long".
"Said you couldn't trust him, his brother was just the same"
"You can't last long".


Harold:

If I was many miles from here,
I'd be sailing in an open boat on the sea
Instead I'm on this window ledge,
With the whole world below
Up at the window
Look at the window...


Mr.Plod:
"We can help you"

Plod's Chorus:
"We can help you"

Mr. Plod:
"We're all your friends, if you come on down
and talk to us son"


Harold:
You must be joking
Take a running jump

The crowd was getting stronger and our Harold
getting weaker;
Forwards, backwards, swaying side to side
Fearing the very worst
They called his mother to the sight
Upon the ledge beside him
His mother made a last request.


67-yr-old Mrs Barrel:
"Come off the ledge if your father were alive he'd be very,
very, very upset.
"Just can't jump, you just can't jump"
"Your shirt's all dirty, there's a man here from
the B.B.C."
"You just can't jump"


Mr. Plod:
"We can help you"

Plod's Chorus:
"We can help you"

Mr. Plod:
"We're all your friends, if you come on down
and talk to us Harry"


Harold:
You must be joking.
Take a running jump......


So shall we start now on Pink Floyd - I vote for Wish You Were Here.

ROTF you are so right a lot of the time but when you are wrong, as above you are SPECTACULARLY wrong.

WYWH or Meddle for my fave PF album BTW, none of that silly Syd stuff.

Spooonboy,

you are slowly edging towards the finest prog rock bands, so to save yoursself some time why not just go for...

King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King", "Red" or "Larks Tongues in Aspic"

or Van der Graaf Generator - "Pawn Hearts", "Godbluff" or "Still Life"

I would play any of these 6 albums in preference to any of the above mentioned (tjhough some of the Caravan would come next).

I'm sorry seagull they aren't consistently better, good but I wouldn't swap.

I really like KC and VdG, but I do prefer Kevin Ayers, Moody Blues and, of course, ELO and ELP. All of these are in the premier league of prog-rock, as indeed are Gentle Giant.

Of course, we start to get into the blurred area between rock and progressive rock and if we do blur these genres then there are few finer bands than Atomic Rooster, Uriah Heep, Traffic and the wonderful Deep Purple.

Kaleidoscope also transformed from psych to prog and renamed themselves Fairfield Palour, as which they released a great elpee Home from Home and a superb single Bordeaux Rose, which they didn't get to perform on TV as planned because thanks to the laughing gnome. aka Ted Heath, we had a three day week and the music shows got canned - what a useless idiot Heath was (somethings never change - hmmm I feel a Stranglers song coming on - prog-punk).

Top 50 prog albums thread

A few of us nailed our prog tastes to the wall in this thread a little while ago.

And as usual, I am right there with Seagull on the subject of VDGG and Peter Hammill, 'Pawn Hearts' is not an easy album to start with, but for me the best one to end with, he, he.

Oh and did anyone mention Tool, not gentle 70's prog, but earsplitting naughties prog metal, I digress.

Spoonboy did however ask for Yes, Genesis and Caravan recommendations, and I hope this has been helpful, it is very enjoyable thread, as prog threads usually are here.

Crikey, wasn't expecting so many replies!

I'll have a proper read through this and let you know what I bought.