He & She: Great Violin Sonatas

Posted by: herm on 21 April 2002

Great Violin Sonatas

For a while now StephenJohn and I have been talking about violin sonatas on the Bashmet thread, and I thought let's take it to a separate place. This after all is an extraordinary genre, in which two completely different instruments - keyboard and violin - are entwined, invoking notions of the masculine and the feminine, power and melody&hellip

Why don't I invite you to talk about your favorite sonatas by listing a couple of mine?

J.S. Bach: c minor 1017 (Koopman / Huggett)

Mozart: KV 379 in G with the big variations. My parents used to have this gorgeous performance by Richter and Oleg Kagan on Russian vinyl.
The violin sonata is not really Mozart's genre; still the B flat sonata K 454 ought to be mentioned too.

Beethoven Hate to say it, but he Kreutzer sonata is pretty unbeatable. The tenth and last sonata in G (op 96) is very interesting too. (I like Ashkenazy and Perlman)

Brahms Brahms wrote three violin sonatas and especially the second in A and the third in d are astounding pieces. In the second there's a middle movement that mixes andante sections with scherzo stuff. It's impossibly hard to perform, and then there's the finale which is a very driven piece of music.
Brahms 3 starts out of nothing, as if the music was already there; the slow movement is heart on the sleeve, I did it my way playing, and there's much more to come. (My favorite version is by Arthur Grumiaux)

Faure Next I'd recommend Faure's first sonata op 13. Listen to the andante and you'll know why.

Debussy This is perhaps the best written piece in the genre after Brahms's second sonata. And I don't just mean cleverly written. It's got emotional depths you'll come back to time and again. (Again Grumiaux)

So why don't I stop here and see what your recommendations are?

Herman
Posted on: 21 April 2002 by Todd A
To which I'll add more modern works:

Bartok - Both. Of course.

Schulhoff - No 2

Bloch - Nos 1 & 2

Prokofiev - Nos 1 & 2 (I'm seeing a pattern.)

I'd add most if not all of the remaining Beethoven sonatas, as well.
Posted on: 22 April 2002 by herm
Max Reger

One great violin sonata I forgot last night is Max Regers 1915 sonata in c minor. It's a full four-movement piece, lasting over 35 minutes, and it's one big song. One of the best and most accessible things Reger wrote. (Wallin / Pontinen on CPO)

Oh, and if were adding all Beethoven, Todd, I'd like to add a lot more Mozart.

Herman
Posted on: 22 April 2002 by stephenjohn
It's not a violin sonata, but I've just received Kodaly's Music for Cello. It has a sonata for violin and cello which is fantastic.
I'm suprised you haven't got the Ravel on your lists. All six of the Bach sonatas are wonderful, but I like them played on a piano. To my uncultured ear a harpsichord sounds like a typewriter.
Steve
Posted on: 23 April 2002 by herm
Obviously I had left the Ravel out for you, Steve, though I have to say I usually skip the middle movement. The 'Blues' is a little too gimmicky, Bolero-like for me. A serious flaw in an otherwise perfect piece.

So if we're going to add the Ravel I'd also like to include the second Faure (Op 108), which perhaps doesn't have the flawlesslness of the early first sonata. But it does have the depth and elusiveness of the best late Faure. (Mintz / Bronfman)

And if you want to add the Kodaly piece for violin and cello, certainly you don;t want to forget Ravel's astounding piece for the same combo. Isn't this included on this Naxos disc? Weird...

Herman
Posted on: 24 April 2002 by stephenjohn
I can't find a sonata for cello and piano.

Steve
Posted on: 24 April 2002 by stephenjohn
Sorry. Skip everthing I've said in the last 2 posts. The Kodaly is for Cello and Piano. Honestly, I can hear the difference, I just seem to have trouble typing the right thing. Anyway, I've ordered Ravel sonata for cello and VIOLIN [certain] now
Steve