Burn in CD's
Posted by: solid state on 17 January 2004
Has anyone ever tried these so called "burn - in" CD's which claim to burn in equipment in an optimum way , in a lot less time than normal?
You know the ones - full sweep frequencies , white/pink noise etc .
Just taken delivery of a new 202
in place of the 92 - Whoa , better in every way , cant wait till the burning in is done , which is why I thought of the above .
Any experience , anyone , or are thse things to be kept with the snake oil ?
Regards all .
You know the ones - full sweep frequencies , white/pink noise etc .
Just taken delivery of a new 202
Any experience , anyone , or are thse things to be kept with the snake oil ?
Regards all .
Posted on: 17 January 2004 by Rasher
And has anyone ever tried those green felt tip pens to colour the CD edge with?
Posted on: 17 January 2004 by solid state
And I suppose whilst were on this sort of subject , has anyone tried those "statmat" devices which sit on top of your CD to reduce static etc - any benefit noticed - seems lunacy to put someting on top of your CD - must degrade the puck/disc interface, could fall off inside the player etc etc
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by prowla
Is the burn in simply a function of the player being switched on, or is it dependent upon the sounds going through it?
Will rock work better than classical, will artificial whooshy hissy squealy sounds do even better?
How could you tell which was best anyway?
(I've always thought the best tweak was a glass of fine wine...)(...and no, not poured over the Hi-Fi!)
Paul Rowlands
Will rock work better than classical, will artificial whooshy hissy squealy sounds do even better?
How could you tell which was best anyway?
(I've always thought the best tweak was a glass of fine wine...)(...and no, not poured over the Hi-Fi!)
Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by Geoff P
I have tried a black rubber mat which has a hole in it's center and so accomodates the Naim puck mounting with no problems. It also wraps around the edge of the CD. Basic function to remove the intereference of any unwanted reflected light from the laser.
Could'nt hear a bloody bit of diiference
Not about CD's but about "burning in speakers"
Apparently if you stick them close to each other with the drive units facing each other a couple of inches apart and connect one of them "out of phase" this can speed up the process.
GEOFF
Could'nt hear a bloody bit of diiference
Not about CD's but about "burning in speakers"
Apparently if you stick them close to each other with the drive units facing each other a couple of inches apart and connect one of them "out of phase" this can speed up the process.
GEOFF
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by prowla
There was a note in a CDS review where having it next to a window with bright sunlight shining in was perceived to degrade the sound, which sounds plausible since sunlight can interfere with other light sources. (We started thinking of little tent-like things to put over the CD compartment's lid.)
However, in a closed drawer mechanism, (a) where is any inbound light going to come from, (b) will the laser light really bounce off sideways along the CD and then be reflected back to interfere with the laser?
Paul Rowlands
However, in a closed drawer mechanism, (a) where is any inbound light going to come from, (b) will the laser light really bounce off sideways along the CD and then be reflected back to interfere with the laser?
Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by solid state
Prowla says "I always thought the best tweak was a glass of fine wine"
I agree , but to much "tweaking" can seriously damage the sound !
I am an inveterate "tweaker" in much the same way as Prowla , and speak from bitter experience !
I agree , but to much "tweaking" can seriously damage the sound !
I am an inveterate "tweaker" in much the same way as Prowla , and speak from bitter experience !
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by oldie
Ooooooooooooh my god !! I've visions of Peter Belt and was it John Hughes ? with their beltism , purple pens[ but only staedtler lumocolor] little green dots stuck strategiclly
on discs, peering at me over the top of my cdp
not a pleasant thought.Snake oil, Noooooo, not a bit of it. Now Sir, can I just sell you this greatly inprovedddddddddddddddd
Anyway I thought that Naim coated the inside of all of it's cdp with a anti reflection coating to absorb laser scatter.
may be a cynical oldie.
on discs, peering at me over the top of my cdp
not a pleasant thought.Snake oil, Noooooo, not a bit of it. Now Sir, can I just sell you this greatly inprovedddddddddddddddd
Anyway I thought that Naim coated the inside of all of it's cdp with a anti reflection coating to absorb laser scatter.
may be a cynical oldie.
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by monkfish
Hi
Was there a loony who suggested freezing the disks or boiling them (in the bag of course), or was I tripping.
Regards
Timothy Leary
Was there a loony who suggested freezing the disks or boiling them (in the bag of course), or was I tripping.
Regards
Timothy Leary
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by solid state
quote:
Originally posted by monkfish:
Hi
Was there a loony who suggested freezing the disks or boiling them (in the bag of course), or was I tripping.
Regards
Timothy Leary
No WAYYYY man !!!!!!!!!!!
[This message was edited by solid state on SUNDAY 18 January 2004 at 14:08.]
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by Phill82
At a hifi show a while ago, this chap showed us this device that was called a 'clarifier'. It was a little box with a spindal onto which you placed a CD. You then pressed a button and it span the CD. However, as far as I could tell, it really did make a noticable difference (as much as you might expect from quite a big cable upgrade). The chap took our own CDs that we bought with us the the show, played them on the system he was deming (it was the Royd room - CD5, Nait5 into Royd speakers), spun then on the 'clarifier' and then replayed them, and there honestly was a very noticable difference.
Has anyone else come accross this divice, or own one?
Has anyone else come accross this divice, or own one?
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by HTK
I did the green pen thing because it seemed to take the hard edge off the treble on some disks. After getting a much better CDP it didn't make any difference. Still got the magic pen - unused for over 10 years.
I've pretty much stopped tweaking now because time is tight and listening is the first priority. Not adverse to moving the speakers about though.
Cheers
Harry
I've pretty much stopped tweaking now because time is tight and listening is the first priority. Not adverse to moving the speakers about though.
Cheers
Harry
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by oldie
Harry,
Unused for ten years ? is it still boxed as you might get a good price for it.
I suppose you could call it the original "belter"
Sorry I couldn't resist the pun, I'll,do penance, I promise
oldie.
Unused for ten years ? is it still boxed as you might get a good price for it.
I suppose you could call it the original "belter"
Sorry I couldn't resist the pun, I'll,do penance, I promise
oldie.
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by HTK
LOL! I've got a half used one and another in it's OP. If we all turned out our lofts we'd probably come up with a museum full of rather interesting stuff.
[This message was edited by HTK on SUNDAY 18 January 2004 at 19:15.]
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Posted on: 18 January 2004 by Goldstar
Hello Solid State,
I used a burn in cd to burn in the mc board of my 52 pre-amp. I had to build a simple attenuator to bring the signal down to mc level.
Verdict: Very effective.
I also use a cleaner to clean the playing side of the cd's (It's a plasic cleaner foam aerosol sold here in Germany as No.99)
I treat the label side of the cd's with a coating of antistatic (No.100).
It is believed that the rapidly spinning disc takes on a static charge that effects the tracking.
Hope this helps
Regards Robert
I used a burn in cd to burn in the mc board of my 52 pre-amp. I had to build a simple attenuator to bring the signal down to mc level.
Verdict: Very effective.
I also use a cleaner to clean the playing side of the cd's (It's a plasic cleaner foam aerosol sold here in Germany as No.99)
I treat the label side of the cd's with a coating of antistatic (No.100).
It is believed that the rapidly spinning disc takes on a static charge that effects the tracking.
Hope this helps
Regards Robert
Posted on: 19 January 2004 by Furnace
That's good advice Roy,sometimes people get too excited about a
new purchase and completely forget to burn in thier power cables
and interconnects.
Now as you are an electrical guru. I've a question about burn in.
looks like I've got some burned in grease around my electric cooker
hot plates, any tips on how to remove that?
new purchase and completely forget to burn in thier power cables
and interconnects.
Now as you are an electrical guru. I've a question about burn in.
looks like I've got some burned in grease around my electric cooker
hot plates, any tips on how to remove that?
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Emil F
Phill82
This is what you need:
http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=67019385&f=48019385&m=5501923946&r=2531991476#2531991476
Emil
This is what you need:
http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=67019385&f=48019385&m=5501923946&r=2531991476#2531991476
Emil
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Raphael
Hi there
About a year ago I got a Statmat (clear or starter or something like that) free with a magazine subscription and decided to try it with another friend who was even more sceptical than I. However, quite quickly, we both had to conclude that it really did improve the sound - more dynamic and each instrument was clearer. I then upgraded to from that model to a Statmat Blue MkII (I think). This was an improvement in two ways. First of all it is much easier to handle and avoid creasing. Secondly, it improved the sound even more.
Now I have to confess that all these tests were using a CD Sugden Audition CD player and not a Naim one. Since replacing the Sugden with a Naim CDI, I have not really used it as it interferes a bit with the puck and it is also quite fiddly handling a CD, puck and Statmat does not make for a smooth changeover. However, I will dutifully go home tonight and try it out and will report the findings soon.
bye for now
Raphael
About a year ago I got a Statmat (clear or starter or something like that) free with a magazine subscription and decided to try it with another friend who was even more sceptical than I. However, quite quickly, we both had to conclude that it really did improve the sound - more dynamic and each instrument was clearer. I then upgraded to from that model to a Statmat Blue MkII (I think). This was an improvement in two ways. First of all it is much easier to handle and avoid creasing. Secondly, it improved the sound even more.
Now I have to confess that all these tests were using a CD Sugden Audition CD player and not a Naim one. Since replacing the Sugden with a Naim CDI, I have not really used it as it interferes a bit with the puck and it is also quite fiddly handling a CD, puck and Statmat does not make for a smooth changeover. However, I will dutifully go home tonight and try it out and will report the findings soon.
bye for now
Raphael