Am I crazy pt.2

Posted by: Bas V on 27 April 2002

Hi all!

Well I’m back and getting more and more confused.

Today I went to one of the best dealers in the Netherlands. I had told them about my ideas and they were saying “don’t sell the Naim!!!” (Well where did I hear that before…). So, I demoed the Classik + CDX against a CDX + 102 + 180 on different speakers: Linn Ninka, Sonus Faber Signum, Totem Sttaf, Audio Physic Spark III, Dynaudio Contour 1.3 SE and Naim Intro II.

The difference was huge! The 102 + 180 was so much better, I couldn’t dance with the Classik, the 102 + 180 made me sit up and really listen, beautiful! Most of the dem was done with the Signums and the Ninka’s, as I found these to sound best.

So the dealer kinda convinced me not to sell the 102 + 180. BUT, I am listening to the different systems at home right now and I still think the Classik sounds bloody marvellous in here. So much better than at the dealer’s room. Okay, the 102+180 IS better (it sounds more as it did at the store), but I really like the Classik too at home. What seems so strange to me, is that I find the system at home (especially the all Naim off course) to sound so much better than everything I have heard today. So what’s the deal?

My guess is that the Intro I’s (with upgraded CXO’s) are just my piece of cake. They are probably not as difficult to drive as the Signums are. That’s the best reason I can imagine the difference I heard at the dealer’s dem room. Another point I have to make is that the Intro II’s also sucked at the dealer’s room. No body at all, not as at home anyway.

Or perhaps the CDI is better than the CDX (to my ears that is)? This seems not as convincing, as I did like the all Naim setup at the dealer.

Well, it makes everything getting tougher and tougher. Or maybe not, if I like what I hear it’s okay right? Still really strange I have never heard any speaker (no matter what the price) that I like better than the Naim’s…

Any ideas about this phenomenon or suggestions for speakers?

Greetz, Bas
Posted on: 27 April 2002 by Allan Probin
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Posted on: 27 April 2002 by herm
No Question You're Crazy wink

How about room size, Bas? Perhaps the dealer's room was too big for the Classik.

Perhaps your story shows that demos at the dealer usually demonstrate two things: various pieces of equipment, and also the dealer's communication skills / convictions.

The latter tend to evaporate as you exit the door, don't they?

Herman
Posted on: 28 April 2002 by Bas V
Hi Herman,

Perhaps you're right! You know where I went and you know the room. It's much bigger than mine, so that could be the case. I was sitting at about 4-5 metres from the speakers, where at home I sit at 2 metres. The volume knob went further than I have ever pushed it! So perhaps the Classik sounds good at normal volumes, but fails when the going gets tough?!

Could be the Intro's are suited ideally for smaller rooms also. 1+1=2???

I am however doubting a bit right now about what to do...

Greetz, Bas

BTW did you see the SolidSteel at CAC?
Posted on: 28 April 2002 by herm
"1+1=2???"

Well, most people would say, yes.

So maybe the problem is, in hindsight you'd wish you'd gotten cherry Intros rather than black ones?

Sure I dropped by CAC this week to have a look - the place was a complete mess, what with a huge crane reaching over the entire building to airlift out construction rubbish, and all the equipment in plastic covers. I'll mail you later today.

Herman